| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread THE FALL OUT 14:46 - Dec 17 with 9426 views | NotLoyal |
Saturday 19th December 2020
Kick off 3pm
Liberty Stadium
Match Officials
ANDY DAVIES
Graham Kane and Mark Russell
Fourth Official : Tom Reeves
First ever game
05 Dec 1925 : Barnsley 2 Swansea Town 0 : League Division Two
Last game
29 Dec 2019: Swansea City 0 Barnsley 0 : League Championship
Meet the Ref
Andy Davies
Andy meets Olly
Andy boy has been a referee for eight years, retiring from football at the age of 28 he previously played for Portsmouth, Yeovil and somebody else I can’t remember. In his spare time Andy oven roasts live turkeys, which at this time of year makes him everyone’s friend except people from Turkey. Now hear this, now hear this, he has reffed well over 200 professional games, and only on six occasions has he not booked players. He booked eight in a game between Cardiff and Villa two years ago, no problems there, but he loves a card, it’s frightening. He sends players off far more than any other referee in the professional leagues, he has been the subject of many complaints by managers, fans and hits the headlines a lot with his decision making. Don’t think that those eight yellows at Cardiff are a one off, he regularly hits the five or six mark, and frighteningly seven. And as we have said he has only completed six games with no cards, from well over 200 GAMES, think about it. This guy has a way of changing games. This will be cardo’s fifth swans game he has been allocated. What will we get on Saturday ?
Turkey rustler Andy Davies, frightening card stats
What is a Barnsley ?
Barnsley is a hedonistic town in the north of the north. It’s a regular haunting for the likes of ghosts and Darren Gob from Talk Sport. Dazza Gobba is from Monk Breton in Barnsley and we will come back to that later. He alleges that he was once offered a pro football contract by Rotherham United. So, now it’s later why Monk Breton ? simple, it’s where Garry Monk was born, when they slapped his arse in the delivery room they noticed he was wearing an expensive watch and his wife took it off him. Barnsley is famous for the amount of magic mushrooms that can be located over a specific acre of field in a secret area everyone knows about just outside the town. In 2011 the Barnsley chop was banned in the town, the chop is a piece of meat, a cut close to the spine of an animal. At this point the animal is dead, or nearly dead, sometimes it is very dead. The Barnsley chop isn’t banned in Monk Breton and Gawber. Gawber is now called that name because someone in the past decided that would be a good idea. The name remains.
Barnsleh ! was the first English town to cater for people with no heads in the T-shirt game
92,000 people live in that Barnsley where the favourite pastime of locals aged forty and over is playing in brass bands. Only 1% of the population is Asian before you lot start, but it does have countless white people of British birth, I don’t know why I am going here, but why not ? it’s a fact. The town isn’t as multi cultural as Whitland or maybe Kenfif Hill, but who is caring ? Don’t start your nonsense on here or I’ll offer you out. Ok ?
Thingy, you know the umpire bloke and Michael Parkinson who actually came round our house once are from Barnsley. That’s about it, only five people who live there are called Lee Barnes.
This is Darren Gobs house in Barnsley, it’s got a lovely paint job. Tha knaws
Football news may appear later.
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Ben Cabango, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Yan Dhanda; Jamal Lowe, Andre Ayew.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Korey Smith, Viktor Gyokeres, Wayne Routledge, Liam Cullen, Joel Latibeaudiere, Oli Cooper, Kasey Palmer.
Referee: Andy Davies
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:05 - Dec 19 with 1056 views | swancity |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 20:44 - Dec 19 by Fireboy2 |
And I suspect people who disagree with my opinion are all football managers then?
Btw I've coached rugby teams for almost 15 years so I've got a good idea when players are tired and should be substituted, that's why I'm banging on about it. |
Can’t you see that coaching rugby players has absolutely no relevance to whether our players today needed a rest.
All players will tell you they’d prefer to be put on that pitch. It’s what they love to do and whilst we have a hectic schedule you can guarantee that they’re training schedules will be allowing appropriate recovery times after games and travel. It’s mostly a young hungry and fit squad now. I don’t think our lads get enough credit for that.
The squad is rotated as and when it’s needed. Ayew has been off colour recently but he’s a match winner isn’t he. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:12 - Dec 19 with 1047 views | angryjack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:05 - Dec 19 by swancity |
Can’t you see that coaching rugby players has absolutely no relevance to whether our players today needed a rest.
All players will tell you they’d prefer to be put on that pitch. It’s what they love to do and whilst we have a hectic schedule you can guarantee that they’re training schedules will be allowing appropriate recovery times after games and travel. It’s mostly a young hungry and fit squad now. I don’t think our lads get enough credit for that.
The squad is rotated as and when it’s needed. Ayew has been off colour recently but he’s a match winner isn’t he. |
Its not about wanting to be on pitch I understand every player wants play every game and they are all fit lads and won't feel tired as in fitness ways,but their bodies will get overworked if not careful and that's when we will start to see muscle injuries and niggles,I personally thought after going two up should made a couple changes ayew especially | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:24 - Dec 19 with 1022 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:05 - Dec 19 by swancity |
Can’t you see that coaching rugby players has absolutely no relevance to whether our players today needed a rest.
All players will tell you they’d prefer to be put on that pitch. It’s what they love to do and whilst we have a hectic schedule you can guarantee that they’re training schedules will be allowing appropriate recovery times after games and travel. It’s mostly a young hungry and fit squad now. I don’t think our lads get enough credit for that.
The squad is rotated as and when it’s needed. Ayew has been off colour recently but he’s a match winner isn’t he. |
You do know that I am not blind you know
I can see when my players are getting tired and therefore sub them.
I can also see that watching the swans that certain players' performance drops as the game develops, it was clear in the first 20 mins on weds that our energy levels were far lower than derbys.
And imo the state of our pitch has helped us recently rather than hindering us, as we know the championship is a very competitive league where regularly teams at the bottom can turn over a team at top, imo if our pitch had been pristine then the likes of barnsley, luton and definitely could have turned us over.
I just hope that cooper starts using the squad he has at his disposal, either that or get loan or transfers in that he wants to use. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:25 - Dec 19 with 1019 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 20:38 - Dec 19 by Chief |
Both clubs in the season following relegation and both with squads full of Premier league players.
Do you think those examples are really comparable to us? |
I think those examples prove my point that just being in such and such position in the league table doesn't tell you the whole picture about how well a manager is/isn't doing. No need to shift the goalposts as if I've said Cooper should be sacked for having us in 3rd. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:39 - Dec 19 with 990 views | Chief |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:25 - Dec 19 by jasper_T |
I think those examples prove my point that just being in such and such position in the league table doesn't tell you the whole picture about how well a manager is/isn't doing. No need to shift the goalposts as if I've said Cooper should be sacked for having us in 3rd. |
Yea i fully acknowledge the fact that some manager's get sacked for a variety of reasons such as high expectancy levels while working with talented squads while being in relatively high league positions. There are plenty of other reasons for it to happen - improper conduct etc.
None of these apply to our current situation, so not sure why you found it relevant to bring up. I maybe wrongly deduced from you doing so that you were saying that he should go. Not exactly words of a fan supportive of his performance are they? |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:06 - Dec 19 with 964 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:39 - Dec 19 by Chief |
Yea i fully acknowledge the fact that some manager's get sacked for a variety of reasons such as high expectancy levels while working with talented squads while being in relatively high league positions. There are plenty of other reasons for it to happen - improper conduct etc.
None of these apply to our current situation, so not sure why you found it relevant to bring up. I maybe wrongly deduced from you doing so that you were saying that he should go. Not exactly words of a fan supportive of his performance are they? |
I don't think he's a very good manager, no. We're muddling along in a poor division. Functional and tedious to watch. Not a sackable offence. Is the nuance here too much for you?
Watford man is gone. Fans complaining about the quality and entertainment on display despite results and league position being in-line with what you'd largely expect. They've got a good squad but hardly a dressing room full of world-beaters.
If they want to pay compo they can take Cooper but try to keep Margetson. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:13 - Dec 19 with 954 views | Chief |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:06 - Dec 19 by jasper_T |
I don't think he's a very good manager, no. We're muddling along in a poor division. Functional and tedious to watch. Not a sackable offence. Is the nuance here too much for you?
Watford man is gone. Fans complaining about the quality and entertainment on display despite results and league position being in-line with what you'd largely expect. They've got a good squad but hardly a dressing room full of world-beaters.
If they want to pay compo they can take Cooper but try to keep Margetson. |
I'm aware of his drawbacks too but unlike some i evaluate the whole package and realise he's currently doing a very good job.
I don't think being in 3rd place, 2 points off second nearing Christmas should ever be described as 'muddling' though. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:28 - Dec 19 with 926 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:13 - Dec 19 by Chief |
I'm aware of his drawbacks too but unlike some i evaluate the whole package and realise he's currently doing a very good job.
I don't think being in 3rd place, 2 points off second nearing Christmas should ever be described as 'muddling' though. |
Cooper's doing the best he can with what he has available in a piss poor division. I have no complaints about the points he's racking up, but I do have long term concerns about the sustainability of the type of football he's employing to do so.
I'll give him more respect than I did Garry Monk, who had far more resources available to him at a higher level, but lacked the humility to realise that he didn't know it all. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:54 - Dec 19 with 910 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:28 - Dec 19 by Dr_Winston |
Cooper's doing the best he can with what he has available in a piss poor division. I have no complaints about the points he's racking up, but I do have long term concerns about the sustainability of the type of football he's employing to do so.
I'll give him more respect than I did Garry Monk, who had far more resources available to him at a higher level, but lacked the humility to realise that he didn't know it all. |
Great post Doc.
If the yanks can put their short hands into their deep pockets and get an out an out striker and we get mgw back then we could have a good chance at automatic promotion | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 23:33 - Dec 19 with 879 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:54 - Dec 19 by Fireboy2 |
Great post Doc.
If the yanks can put their short hands into their deep pockets and get an out an out striker and we get mgw back then we could have a good chance at automatic promotion |
If the Yanks can invest what the club can afford to sustain. Which might not be all that much in the current situation. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:15 - Dec 20 with 846 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 23:33 - Dec 19 by Dr_Winston |
If the Yanks can invest what the club can afford to sustain. Which might not be all that much in the current situation. |
Speculate to accumulate? | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:17 - Dec 20 with 845 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:15 - Dec 20 by Fireboy2 |
Speculate to accumulate? |
Is far more likely to end up in a financial shitshow. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:39 - Dec 20 with 827 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:15 - Dec 20 by Fireboy2 |
Speculate to accumulate? |
Whose money are they going to speculate with should be the question. I find it amusing to read that yets again the league "this year is poor", the core of the Championship is made up of big clubs with better resources than our selves, long established Clubs at this level .To think some think we should be higher than our current position is imo ludicrous . We're developing as squad , and with all good squads you build from the defence , thats looks like its sorted, we've no recognised striker other than Cullen who Imo i think this level maybe a step too great so playing with two midfield players as our main attacking threat may not be the most effective but its keeping us up there in the top six. Hopefully we secure a recognised striker either as a loan or permanent signing in January .Everyone was purring over our performance against cardiff ,maybe its because we played on decent pitch and maybe the performances will improve once the new one is installed, we'll have to wait and see. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:59 - Dec 20 with 820 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 00:39 - Dec 20 by Boundy |
Whose money are they going to speculate with should be the question. I find it amusing to read that yets again the league "this year is poor", the core of the Championship is made up of big clubs with better resources than our selves, long established Clubs at this level .To think some think we should be higher than our current position is imo ludicrous . We're developing as squad , and with all good squads you build from the defence , thats looks like its sorted, we've no recognised striker other than Cullen who Imo i think this level maybe a step too great so playing with two midfield players as our main attacking threat may not be the most effective but its keeping us up there in the top six. Hopefully we secure a recognised striker either as a loan or permanent signing in January .Everyone was purring over our performance against cardiff ,maybe its because we played on decent pitch and maybe the performances will improve once the new one is installed, we'll have to wait and see. |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 05:20 - Dec 20 with 778 views | angryjack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:06 - Dec 19 by jasper_T |
I don't think he's a very good manager, no. We're muddling along in a poor division. Functional and tedious to watch. Not a sackable offence. Is the nuance here too much for you?
Watford man is gone. Fans complaining about the quality and entertainment on display despite results and league position being in-line with what you'd largely expect. They've got a good squad but hardly a dressing room full of world-beaters.
If they want to pay compo they can take Cooper but try to keep Margetson. |
Be careful what you wish for, could end up with some one like Neil Harris. Cooper doing a great job with resources he had | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 08:32 - Dec 20 with 739 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 21:05 - Dec 19 by swancity |
Can’t you see that coaching rugby players has absolutely no relevance to whether our players today needed a rest.
All players will tell you they’d prefer to be put on that pitch. It’s what they love to do and whilst we have a hectic schedule you can guarantee that they’re training schedules will be allowing appropriate recovery times after games and travel. It’s mostly a young hungry and fit squad now. I don’t think our lads get enough credit for that.
The squad is rotated as and when it’s needed. Ayew has been off colour recently but he’s a match winner isn’t he. |
and any boxer would tell you he d rather not be stopped when getting battered so the trainer stops the fight for hi own protection-but you know better ,obviously.
Cooper should be ensuring ALL players are looked after to perfrom 100 % all game.
Ayew needs a rest .He is a top pro and a great team man but ALL the great managers manage players. Sane and Salah have been rested by Klopp. But Steve knows better?. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:01 - Dec 20 with 725 views | Thornburyswan |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 22:28 - Dec 19 by Dr_Winston |
Cooper's doing the best he can with what he has available in a piss poor division. I have no complaints about the points he's racking up, but I do have long term concerns about the sustainability of the type of football he's employing to do so.
I'll give him more respect than I did Garry Monk, who had far more resources available to him at a higher level, but lacked the humility to realise that he didn't know it all. |
Good summary that Doc, seeing as how Covid has/is impacting football outside the Prem I think our current model is broadly sustainable - provided we can keep bringing the kids through - at this level but will not work if we were to find ourselves going up.
That said our owners, I suspect, would see going up as the best opportunity to exit. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:16 - Dec 20 with 715 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 08:32 - Dec 20 by onehunglow |
and any boxer would tell you he d rather not be stopped when getting battered so the trainer stops the fight for hi own protection-but you know better ,obviously.
Cooper should be ensuring ALL players are looked after to perfrom 100 % all game.
Ayew needs a rest .He is a top pro and a great team man but ALL the great managers manage players. Sane and Salah have been rested by Klopp. But Steve knows better?. |
When you have the quality of players that klopp has at is disposal and are winning 5 nil you can rest as many as you like. When you are only 2 nil up you make sure you win the game. The players now have a week off. | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:30 - Dec 20 with 704 views | pencoedjack |
Swansea City sit 3rd in the championship after selling their best players for the last 2 seasons with a manager who has worked wonders through his contacts & we have fans hoping he goes to a club just below us.
You couldn’t make it up |  | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:39 - Dec 20 with 691 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:30 - Dec 20 by pencoedjack |
Swansea City sit 3rd in the championship after selling their best players for the last 2 seasons with a manager who has worked wonders through his contacts & we have fans hoping he goes to a club just below us.
You couldn’t make it up |
Have you never thought that some people think we can do even better penc?
I just think we can do better, I'm happy with how cooper has done in his time her, but I truly think we should have more points on the board, we have a squad of players that he is not utilizing and as has been said plenty of times before some players will burn out and pick up injuries if their gametime is not managed.
We all have our opinions, yes some peopld are naturally negative, some positive, ateotd we are all jack b@stards who want the best for our team. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:44 - Dec 20 with 690 views | johnlangy |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:30 - Dec 20 by pencoedjack |
Swansea City sit 3rd in the championship after selling their best players for the last 2 seasons with a manager who has worked wonders through his contacts & we have fans hoping he goes to a club just below us.
You couldn’t make it up |
It's ridiculous. If we get ONE player in Jan, a proper forward it will make a huge difference. Yesterday the ball kept coming back time after time so the whole team were on the back foot constantly.
That forward and MGW back from injury will make for a very interesting second half of the season. Provided they don't sell a few of course. | | | |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:50 - Dec 20 with 688 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 09:39 - Dec 20 by Fireboy2 |
Have you never thought that some people think we can do even better penc?
I just think we can do better, I'm happy with how cooper has done in his time her, but I truly think we should have more points on the board, we have a squad of players that he is not utilizing and as has been said plenty of times before some players will burn out and pick up injuries if their gametime is not managed.
We all have our opinions, yes some peopld are naturally negative, some positive, ateotd we are all jack b@stards who want the best for our team. |
Our squad is not as strong as the three teams who were relegated from the PL last season so the fact we are 3rd is nothing short of incredible. Every team thinks they should have more points than they have that is football sometimes you play well but don't get what you deserve Norwich and bristol away come to mind . A few times we have been lucky to win . | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 10:12 - Dec 20 with 678 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 17:36 - Dec 19 by Fireboy2 |
No matter where we are in the league or season there should have beem subs made after the second goal, there was no way we were going to lose so it was a perfect time to rest key players and give players who need time on the pitch gametime.
There will come a time and I hope not when a key player will get an injury caused by playing too many minutes and I bet cooper will get pelters for playing said player too much. |
They’ve got a whole week to QPR. He could bench Ayew or Lowe, start Palmer and Smith and manning too. Give the young lad from Man City a chance and rest Guehi. |  |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 10:17 - Dec 20 with 672 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 17:48 - Dec 19 by pencoedjack |
The squad Cooper has assembled ( in difficult circumstances) currently only behind the 2 teams relegated from the PL last season?
The majority of neutral football supporters would probably say we are in a higher position than they thought we would be at this stage of the season.
So called fans find reasons to knock Cooper ( & certain players) every opportunity they can [Post edited 19 Dec 2020 18:01]
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And really should have beaten Norwich away too. We just have to write Derby off, bad day at the office but a great recovery today against a team who’d won 4 out of their last 5? And we’re third ! | |
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| Swansea City v Barnsley : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 10:18 - Dec 20 with 672 views | Joe_bradshaw |
I thought it was an excellent battling performance yesterday. We played Barnsley and the pitch very well. Defence was magnificent, Lowe and Fulton outstanding.
Well done Cooper and the squad. |  |
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