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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..&quo 17:19 - Mar 1 with 9094 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

From the article:

Cooper has brushed off questions about whether his team is tired.

"It doesn't matter," he said.

"It doesn't matter if they are (tired) or they are not - it's the season and the schedule we are in.

"Even if they are, it doesn't mean you can't play well and win, so it's irrelevant really whether they are or they aren't."

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I'd like to see the reactions of some of the players after reading that.

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[Post edited 1 Mar 2021 17:28]

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 07:38 - Mar 2 with 1284 views34dfgdf54

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 22:01 - Mar 1 by Catullus

That's just ignoring that no athlete starts a race already tired, they have to manage fatigue during a race but they don't do that Marathon with the wall hitting them after 5 miles.

Is it purely about matchdays, this fatigue or is he working them too hard in training too? With 2 games a week now they shouldn't need fitness training, to be worked too hard. The right training is more important.

Any one of us, if we're honest, if we have bad nights sleep and go to work tired, do we perform as well? If we do too much overtime, don't we run out of steam and need a break? These guys are sportsmen not machines., Though even a machine will breakdown if it's not looked after properly.


There is fine margins in top level sport, I know this isn't elite level so to speak but the point still stands.
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 08:09 - Mar 2 with 1261 viewsCatullus

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 07:38 - Mar 2 by 34dfgdf54

There is fine margins in top level sport, I know this isn't elite level so to speak but the point still stands.


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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 08:19 - Mar 2 with 1250 viewsangryjack

It's not just about fatigue, guaranteed players will pick up more and more injuries as season goes on as we seeing a little bit now,by being overworked..its inevitable we will pick up more if he don't rest players...soft tissue injuries will be common...usually mid season the training is more about setting up defence against attack one touch pressing and set pieces very rarely be high intensity running...
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 08:58 - Mar 2 with 1235 viewsvetchonian

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 20:10 - Mar 1 by Garyjack

Didn't the Wurzels switch to a back four before taking charge of the game on Saturday?


I dont think they took charge of the game!

We went one up..took the lead despite Pearsons so called superior tactical nous.
We gifted them a goal within 11 mins of going ahead.We still attacked and created chances after that they were not dominant and keeping us off the ball....they scored their second from a set piece....their third came from another mistake. The Wurzels certainly did not boss the second half...we could /should have equalised at 1-2 down but Arriola blasted a golden chance over the bar after a nice passage of fast free flowing possesion football..Yes we lost but Bristol by no means were in control of the game second half

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:10 - Mar 2 with 1232 viewsangryjack

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 08:58 - Mar 2 by vetchonian

I dont think they took charge of the game!

We went one up..took the lead despite Pearsons so called superior tactical nous.
We gifted them a goal within 11 mins of going ahead.We still attacked and created chances after that they were not dominant and keeping us off the ball....they scored their second from a set piece....their third came from another mistake. The Wurzels certainly did not boss the second half...we could /should have equalised at 1-2 down but Arriola blasted a golden chance over the bar after a nice passage of fast free flowing possesion football..Yes we lost but Bristol by no means were in control of the game second half


I think they giftred us a goal as well.but this change of formation definitely took sting out of our gAme
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:37 - Mar 2 with 1214 viewsonehunglow

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:10 - Mar 2 by angryjack

I think they giftred us a goal as well.but this change of formation definitely took sting out of our gAme


Change of Formation.
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 12:26 - Mar 2 with 1202 viewsKGriz16

Cooper has always come across stubborn and unable to adapt though hasn't he?
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 12:28 - Mar 2 with 1190 viewsonehunglow

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 12:26 - Mar 2 by KGriz16

Cooper has always come across stubborn and unable to adapt though hasn't he?


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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 21:06 - Mar 2 with 1156 viewsAndyCole

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 12:26 - Mar 2 by KGriz16

Cooper has always come across stubborn and unable to adapt though hasn't he?


You're right. Which is often a strength and most probably is the reason why we are where we are right now. Because, not despite.

Would far rather a manager and players with a vision, plan, ongoing tactics and the courage of the collective conviction than some snowflake that chops and changes like some of our fickle supporters do. Uninformed supporters who don't see us train, don't see the interrelationships, the underlying stats etc .

Saturday was (mostly) a massive throwback to our identity, for proper Swans fans that get it. A joy to behold and some key lessons learned.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 21:28 - Mar 2 with 1142 viewsGroo

Another thread for one purpose only. Shame really.


What he's saying, for the really thick here, is there's nothing that can be done about the schedule. The players have to play at their best no matter what.


But yeah, lets make it that the manager don't care.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 21:29 - Mar 2 with 1142 viewsCatullus

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 21:06 - Mar 2 by AndyCole

You're right. Which is often a strength and most probably is the reason why we are where we are right now. Because, not despite.

Would far rather a manager and players with a vision, plan, ongoing tactics and the courage of the collective conviction than some snowflake that chops and changes like some of our fickle supporters do. Uninformed supporters who don't see us train, don't see the interrelationships, the underlying stats etc .

Saturday was (mostly) a massive throwback to our identity, for proper Swans fans that get it. A joy to behold and some key lessons learned.


Ah it's thr proer fans then is it, that get it? You know someone having a different opinion to you doesn't make them less of a fan or not a proper fan.

Being stubborn AND unable to adapt is not really a strength whereas having the courage of your convictions can be.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 00:05 - Mar 16 with 1048 viewsAndyCole

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 21:29 - Mar 2 by Catullus

Ah it's thr proer fans then is it, that get it? You know someone having a different opinion to you doesn't make them less of a fan or not a proper fan.

Being stubborn AND unable to adapt is not really a strength whereas having the courage of your convictions can be.


Cooper has yet again proven his ability to adapt, even to the most challenged, uninformed passive supporter. surely ?

Did the meek anticipate his bold, innovative front 3 which won the game, along with his tried and tested mid-defence set ups ? Not a chance. Do the meek ever see our clever tactics unfold or have the wherewithal to begin to recognise our myriad of tactics ? Never.

Some posters need to fast track any kind of proper education in football, instead of blindly spouting popular sheeple-speak to gain forum points.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 00:41 - Mar 16 with 1038 viewsangryjack

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 00:05 - Mar 16 by AndyCole

Cooper has yet again proven his ability to adapt, even to the most challenged, uninformed passive supporter. surely ?

Did the meek anticipate his bold, innovative front 3 which won the game, along with his tried and tested mid-defence set ups ? Not a chance. Do the meek ever see our clever tactics unfold or have the wherewithal to begin to recognise our myriad of tactics ? Never.

Some posters need to fast track any kind of proper education in football, instead of blindly spouting popular sheeple-speak to gain forum points.


Just read that listening to Mozart... I read it and imagined Dylan Thomas was reading it to me..just sounded rite
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:06 - Mar 16 with 1000 viewsonehunglow

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 00:41 - Mar 16 by angryjack

Just read that listening to Mozart... I read it and imagined Dylan Thomas was reading it to me..just sounded rite


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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:32 - Mar 16 with 1000 viewsDr_Parnassus

Is this one of those things that if it gets repeated enough times then it becomes true?

How do we compare to other teams? With a small squad with the talent balance so heavily weighted towards 12 or 13 players, it seems weird to keep changing the team when in such a crucial part of the season.

I’m ignoring keepers due to the nature of the position. I’ll start with the defenders and work my way through as when I can be bothered.

Swansea starting defenders:-

Cabango - 29 apps
Guehi - 33 apps
Bennett - 21 apps / Naughton 24 apps

Average matches per player - 26.7

Brentford starting defenders

Pinnock - 37 apps
Sorensen - 31 apps
Henry - 34 apps (been injured for a few weeks and out for season)
Jansson - 14 apps (out for the season after ankle injury hence the games)

Average matches per player 29.0

Norwich starting defenders

Aarons - 38 apps
Hanley - 34 apps
Gibson - 27 apps
Giannoulis - 30 apps

Average matches per player 32.2
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:52 - Mar 16 with 988 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea starting midfielders (I’m including our wing backs):-

Roberts - 37 apps
Bidwell - 36 apps
Smith - 30 apps
Ayew - 35 apps
Grimes - 37 apps

Average matches per player 35.0

Brentford starting midfielders

Ghoddos - 35 apps
Janelt - 34 apps
Jensen - 39 apps
Canos - 41 apps
Mbuemo - 35 apps

Average matches per player 36.8

Norwich starting midfielders

Buendia - 32 apps
Vrancic - 31 apps
Skipp - 38 apps
McClean - 29 apps
Cantwell - 24 apps

Average matches per player - 30.4

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:55 - Mar 16 with 985 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea starting striker:-

Lowe - 38 apps

Brentford starting striker:-

Toney - 38 apps

Norwich starting striker:-

Pukki - 33 apps

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 10:04 - Mar 16 with 979 viewsDr_Parnassus

Average matches played per starting outfield player.

Swansea - 32
Brentford - 33.8
Norwich - 31.6

Over and out.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 10:16 - Mar 16 with 968 views34dfgdf54

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 10:04 - Mar 16 by Dr_Parnassus

Average matches played per starting outfield player.

Swansea - 32
Brentford - 33.8
Norwich - 31.6

Over and out.


And Brentford have started to get iffy results because of that. It's a tough game for them tonight at Derby.

Edit - Also, do you have the stats for minutes played to go with those stats? Subs made etc.
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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 10:47 - Mar 16 with 955 viewsDr_Parnassus

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 10:16 - Mar 16 by 34dfgdf54

And Brentford have started to get iffy results because of that. It's a tough game for them tonight at Derby.

Edit - Also, do you have the stats for minutes played to go with those stats? Subs made etc.
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Because of it? Not sure how anyone can come to that conclusion.

I haven’t included their last game (which they won) because it would land on an odd number which is awkward to split in half. Brentford have got stronger as the season has gone on.

So before this week:-

Brentford in their first 17 games of the season got 28 points.

Brentford in their last 17 games of the season got 35 points.

No info on minutes on the pitch.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 10:50 - Mar 16 with 951 viewsDr_Parnassus

As have we got stronger as it goes. Again I have removed the last game just for the purposes of ease, which we also won.

First 17 games of the season - 30 points

Last 17 games of the season - 36 points.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 23:17 - Mar 17 with 893 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looks like I have killed this thread with reality.

Apologies all, I’ll remember next time.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 23:27 - Mar 17 with 886 viewsAndyCole

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 23:17 - Mar 17 by Dr_Parnassus

Looks like I have killed this thread with reality.

Apologies all, I’ll remember next time.


Facts always win. Especially against the irrational doom merchants, with an agenda.

Bravo.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 08:53 - Mar 18 with 848 views34dfgdf54

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 23:27 - Mar 17 by AndyCole

Facts always win. Especially against the irrational doom merchants, with an agenda.

Bravo.


Facts are the performances of ourselves and Brentford now.

Give me minutes. Not apps.

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"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 09:12 - Mar 18 with 839 viewsBrynmill_Jack

"Steve Cooper tells Swansea City's players to put fatigue to one side..& on 23:27 - Mar 17 by AndyCole

Facts always win. Especially against the irrational doom merchants, with an agenda.

Bravo.


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