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The decline in educational standards... 09:21 - May 28 with 5796 viewsAjack_Kerouac




Check out this exam paper 13 year old's in Inverness were expected to answer in 1944 and then compare with your 13 year old's History exam papers in what passes for 'Education' today.

Do you agree that standards have declined?
If not what are your reasons?
If you agree that standards have declined what do you put this down to?

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The decline in educational standards... on 12:43 - May 31 with 968 viewscontroversial_jack

The decline in educational standards... on 11:33 - May 31 by Ajack_Kerouac

No, you can be brainwashed to accept the validity of ‘identity politics’ though can’t you.


No you can't, but you can be compelled to by law as in Canada.
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The decline in educational standards... on 13:05 - May 31 with 964 viewsAjack_Kerouac

The decline in educational standards... on 12:43 - May 31 by controversial_jack

No you can't, but you can be compelled to by law as in Canada.


So pre-school children force fed an ideology will be unaffected ?
Ok.

Why is it important to tell children how to think about gender, sexuality and skin colour then instead of letting them work these things out for themselves at their own pace?
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"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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The decline in educational standards... on 13:47 - May 31 with 954 viewsbritferry

I got bored rigid doing history in skool, we had lessons about what clothes the Tudors wore

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The decline in educational standards... on 14:43 - May 31 with 945 viewsKeithHaynes

The decline in educational standards... on 13:47 - May 31 by britferry

I got bored rigid doing history in skool, we had lessons about what clothes the Tudors wore


Lovely family, same as me as a kid 😉

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The decline in educational standards... on 15:04 - May 31 with 937 viewsonehunglow

The decline in educational standards... on 14:43 - May 31 by KeithHaynes

Lovely family, same as me as a kid 😉


You ll find people are unable to exchange views without resorting to hate speech.

That is also down to education and upbringing.

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The decline in educational standards... on 16:16 - May 31 with 907 viewsFlashberryjack

Wales' new curriculum, compulsory subject is black history, it'll be very interesting to see which part of black history they'll teach.

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The decline in educational standards... on 16:22 - May 31 with 905 viewsonehunglow

The decline in educational standards... on 16:16 - May 31 by Flashberryjack

Wales' new curriculum, compulsory subject is black history, it'll be very interesting to see which part of black history they'll teach.


Seriously?

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The decline in educational standards... on 17:21 - May 31 with 893 viewscontroversial_jack

The decline in educational standards... on 16:22 - May 31 by onehunglow

Seriously?


Wales only has a tiny proportion of blacks
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The decline in educational standards... on 17:23 - May 31 with 891 viewsonehunglow

The decline in educational standards... on 17:21 - May 31 by controversial_jack

Wales only has a tiny proportion of blacks


Odd innit

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The decline in educational standards... on 17:45 - May 31 with 884 viewsKeithHaynes

It’s only to be expected, and if it increases awareness and decreases hate then I’m all for it.

The Welsh education system needs to broaden the mind, not everyone will stay in the country regardless of the population of non white people. Essential.

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The decline in educational standards... on 18:39 - May 31 with 863 viewscontroversial_jack

It's actually 5.5% in Wales, which i'm surprised it's that high. Of course black history needs to be understood, just as Irish immigration or Polish immigration does too
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The decline in educational standards... on 20:18 - May 31 with 838 viewsonehunglow

The decline in educational standards... on 18:39 - May 31 by controversial_jack

It's actually 5.5% in Wales, which i'm surprised it's that high. Of course black history needs to be understood, just as Irish immigration or Polish immigration does too


Or Italian as far more of Italian roots than most other ethnic groups

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The decline in educational standards... on 23:37 - May 31 with 813 viewsLohengrin

The decline in educational standards... on 20:18 - May 31 by onehunglow

Or Italian as far more of Italian roots than most other ethnic groups


Of all the things I regret the most as we continue on this ugly trajectory toward cheap, homogenised mass-consumerism the demise and virtual disappearance of the Italian ‘caff’ ranks right up there.

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The decline in educational standards... on 09:04 - Jun 1 with 773 viewsonehunglow

The decline in educational standards... on 23:37 - May 31 by Lohengrin

Of all the things I regret the most as we continue on this ugly trajectory toward cheap, homogenised mass-consumerism the demise and virtual disappearance of the Italian ‘caff’ ranks right up there.


You should be writing for the New Statesman.
I'm an arrogant jerk and can hold my own with anyone when I put my mind to it but your eloquence eclipses my pyss poor efforts.

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The decline in educational standards... on 16:24 - Jun 1 with 727 viewsFlashberryjack

The decline in educational standards... on 17:45 - May 31 by KeithHaynes

It’s only to be expected, and if it increases awareness and decreases hate then I’m all for it.

The Welsh education system needs to broaden the mind, not everyone will stay in the country regardless of the population of non white people. Essential.

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Do you really think it will increase awareness of hate ?

Why not call it a "History lesson" which would include all creeds and colours.

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The decline in educational standards... on 17:58 - Jun 2 with 655 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Do you think they’ll teach the kids about the effects of Socialism in Africa?
The Rwandan genocide?
The relentless creep of Islam into sub-Saharan Africa?
How Islam conquered North Africa?
The Islamic invasion of Spain and the taking of Europeans as slaves?
The fact that it was Africans and African chiefs who captured slaves and sold them on and that many of these chiefs resisted Britain’s abolition of slavery?


Fat chance. 😁

Black history will be more political brainwashing of our children by the Left.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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The decline in educational standards... on 17:59 - Jun 2 with 654 viewsonehunglow

The decline in educational standards... on 17:58 - Jun 2 by Ajack_Kerouac

Do you think they’ll teach the kids about the effects of Socialism in Africa?
The Rwandan genocide?
The relentless creep of Islam into sub-Saharan Africa?
How Islam conquered North Africa?
The Islamic invasion of Spain and the taking of Europeans as slaves?
The fact that it was Africans and African chiefs who captured slaves and sold them on and that many of these chiefs resisted Britain’s abolition of slavery?


Fat chance. 😁

Black history will be more political brainwashing of our children by the Left.


As it is.Commendable.

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The decline in educational standards... on 18:31 - Jun 2 with 649 viewsGwyn737

The decline in educational standards... on 17:58 - Jun 2 by Ajack_Kerouac

Do you think they’ll teach the kids about the effects of Socialism in Africa?
The Rwandan genocide?
The relentless creep of Islam into sub-Saharan Africa?
How Islam conquered North Africa?
The Islamic invasion of Spain and the taking of Europeans as slaves?
The fact that it was Africans and African chiefs who captured slaves and sold them on and that many of these chiefs resisted Britain’s abolition of slavery?


Fat chance. 😁

Black history will be more political brainwashing of our children by the Left.


What socialism in Africa? Why not in other countries? Why socialism? Why not communism? or the feudal system?
Why the Rwandan genocide? Why not Haiti? Or the killing of native Americans?
Why Islam in North Africa? Why not the Catholic Church. Why not the Crusades?

You seem to want the history curriculum to be precisely what you think it should be. Fortunately it’s balanced (apart from the sensible focus on British history, which across primary and secondary school makes up about 80% of the content).
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The decline in educational standards... on 21:34 - Jun 2 with 626 viewscontroversial_jack

Mass immigration from the Caribbean into Britain only really happened from the 1950s onwards. That's during the lifetime of most of us on here I doubt it needs more than a few chapters in a history manual to get it across to pupils.

Yes, they did come earlier, the Windrush in 48 and there had been some here before that for centuries, but does it need to be anymore than just a few chapters?
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The decline in educational standards... on 21:51 - Jun 2 with 622 viewsCatullus

The decline in educational standards... on 16:16 - May 31 by Flashberryjack

Wales' new curriculum, compulsory subject is black history, it'll be very interesting to see which part of black history they'll teach.


Maybe they'll teach about Mansa Musa, his vast wealth and all the slaves he owned?

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The decline in educational standards... on 21:54 - Jun 2 with 615 viewsCatullus

The decline in educational standards... on 17:58 - Jun 2 by Ajack_Kerouac

Do you think they’ll teach the kids about the effects of Socialism in Africa?
The Rwandan genocide?
The relentless creep of Islam into sub-Saharan Africa?
How Islam conquered North Africa?
The Islamic invasion of Spain and the taking of Europeans as slaves?
The fact that it was Africans and African chiefs who captured slaves and sold them on and that many of these chiefs resisted Britain’s abolition of slavery?


Fat chance. 😁

Black history will be more political brainwashing of our children by the Left.


The left eh, News from Nowhere and the Socialist Utopia.....

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The decline in educational standards... on 21:56 - Jun 2 with 612 viewsFlashberryjack

The decline in educational standards... on 21:51 - Jun 2 by Catullus

Maybe they'll teach about Mansa Musa, his vast wealth and all the slaves he owned?


All the bad bits will be airbrushed out, I can assure you of that.

It's legal brainwashing of Welsh school children, god bless Drakeford and our wonderful Senedd.

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The decline in educational standards... on 22:06 - Jun 2 with 606 viewsGwyn737

I’ve read the report and the recommendations.

It’s not about teaching black history.

It’s about acknowledging the contribution BAME people have made to the word through deeds and culture and understanding how previous barriers have been overcome. It’s likely IMO that this will be taught through PSHE and Citizenship under the umbrella of tolerance and respect.

There is no mandatory requirement to teach ‘Black History’ as a topic/subject.
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The decline in educational standards... on 22:18 - Jun 2 with 600 viewsmajorraglan

The decline in educational standards... on 22:06 - Jun 2 by Gwyn737

I’ve read the report and the recommendations.

It’s not about teaching black history.

It’s about acknowledging the contribution BAME people have made to the word through deeds and culture and understanding how previous barriers have been overcome. It’s likely IMO that this will be taught through PSHE and Citizenship under the umbrella of tolerance and respect.

There is no mandatory requirement to teach ‘Black History’ as a topic/subject.


Thank you for posting, it ensures we get the facts as opposed to the Daily Mail narrative.
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The decline in educational standards... on 08:26 - Jun 3 with 567 viewsAjack_Kerouac

The decline in educational standards... on 22:06 - Jun 2 by Gwyn737

I’ve read the report and the recommendations.

It’s not about teaching black history.

It’s about acknowledging the contribution BAME people have made to the word through deeds and culture and understanding how previous barriers have been overcome. It’s likely IMO that this will be taught through PSHE and Citizenship under the umbrella of tolerance and respect.

There is no mandatory requirement to teach ‘Black History’ as a topic/subject.


So what I said then.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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