| The decline in educational standards... 09:21 - May 28 with 5797 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
Check out this exam paper 13 year old's in Inverness were expected to answer in 1944 and then compare with your 13 year old's History exam papers in what passes for 'Education' today.
Do you agree that standards have declined?
If not what are your reasons?
If you agree that standards have declined what do you put this down to? |  |
| "It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it" |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 09:18 - Jun 3 with 735 views | onehunglow |
| The decline in educational standards... on 22:18 - Jun 2 by majorraglan |
Thank you for posting, it ensures we get the facts as opposed to the Daily Mail narrative. |
Daily Mail is always used by people with your narrative
Narrative is a word that has come back from the dead ,so that' s good |  |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 10:25 - Jun 3 with 709 views | Gwyn737 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:26 - Jun 3 by Ajack_Kerouac |
So what I said then. |
If you meant that schools may not teach the half a dozen very specific examples that youâve cherry picked from the entire history of the world then yes, what youâve said.
If Iâve misinterpreted your intentions and you meant teaching tolerance and respect is a good thing then yes as well.
This has very little to do with the subject of History itself. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 12:19 - Jun 3 with 694 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
| The decline in educational standards... on 10:25 - Jun 3 by Gwyn737 |
If you meant that schools may not teach the half a dozen very specific examples that youâve cherry picked from the entire history of the world then yes, what youâve said.
If Iâve misinterpreted your intentions and you meant teaching tolerance and respect is a good thing then yes as well.
This has very little to do with the subject of History itself. |
My point is that teaching History is the teaching of the facts as can be ascertained from primary sources, warts and all.
You donât endorse teaching kids only the good things that have been achieved by people who happened to have white skin do you?
Iâm sure you donât as that would be stupid and youâre not stupid.
So for the Welsh government to claim that âBlack Historyâ is going to be taught only (as per your post) to airbrush all the bad stuff out and only teach our kids the good things that peoples with brown or black skin have done is in fact not âHistoryâ.
It is political propaganda.
I love History. I had a great, inspirational, History teacher.
It is something that has never left me, I read History for fun and to deepen my understanding.
I learnt from the teaching of History that people of all different skin colours did all kinds of things to each other, good and bad, that this is the story of humanity.
I didnât need some pretend âteacherâ to tell me that people with brown/black/yellow skin made great achievements...it was self-evident from the History.
Keep politics out of classrooms.
If we are going to teach about slavery, teach the whole bloody story.
If we are going to teach about the Nazis, also teach about the evils done in the name of Socialism.
If we are going to teach about the bad things done in the name of Christianity, then also teach about the bad things done in the name of Islam.
These things should not have to be spelled out to adults. | |
| "It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it" |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 13:00 - Jun 3 with 679 views | Gwyn737 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 12:19 - Jun 3 by Ajack_Kerouac |
My point is that teaching History is the teaching of the facts as can be ascertained from primary sources, warts and all.
You donât endorse teaching kids only the good things that have been achieved by people who happened to have white skin do you?
Iâm sure you donât as that would be stupid and youâre not stupid.
So for the Welsh government to claim that âBlack Historyâ is going to be taught only (as per your post) to airbrush all the bad stuff out and only teach our kids the good things that peoples with brown or black skin have done is in fact not âHistoryâ.
It is political propaganda.
I love History. I had a great, inspirational, History teacher.
It is something that has never left me, I read History for fun and to deepen my understanding.
I learnt from the teaching of History that people of all different skin colours did all kinds of things to each other, good and bad, that this is the story of humanity.
I didnât need some pretend âteacherâ to tell me that people with brown/black/yellow skin made great achievements...it was self-evident from the History.
Keep politics out of classrooms.
If we are going to teach about slavery, teach the whole bloody story.
If we are going to teach about the Nazis, also teach about the evils done in the name of Socialism.
If we are going to teach about the bad things done in the name of Christianity, then also teach about the bad things done in the name of Islam.
These things should not have to be spelled out to adults. |
See my point on the âBooingâ thread. Itâs explains the reality of whatâs happening the best I can. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 13:56 - Jun 3 with 672 views | onehunglow |
| The decline in educational standards... on 13:00 - Jun 3 by Gwyn737 |
See my point on the âBooingâ thread. Itâs explains the reality of whatâs happening the best I can. |
But it's your explanation. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 14:01 - Jun 3 with 667 views | Lohengrin |
| The decline in educational standards... on 21:54 - Jun 2 by Catullus |
The left eh, News from Nowhere and the Socialist Utopia..... |
Iâve got a real soft spot for William Morris. Have you read News from Nowhere, Cat? |  |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 14:06 - Jun 3 with 662 views | onehunglow |
Apostrophe abuse is clearly endemic | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 14:07 - Jun 3 with 661 views | Gwyn737 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 13:56 - Jun 3 by onehunglow |
But it's your explanation. |
Itâs directly from the actual report and associated recommendations. | | | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 08:15 - Jun 9 with 595 views | felixstowe_jack |
I see the lunatics have taken over at Magdalen college Oxford. Despite the fact the are attending a British college funded by UK taxpayers they have voted to remove a portrait of the UK head of state. Perhaps they should consider attending a university in another country. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 08:31 - Jun 10 with 544 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:15 - Jun 9 by felixstowe_jack |
I see the lunatics have taken over at Magdalen college Oxford. Despite the fact the are attending a British college funded by UK taxpayers they have voted to remove a portrait of the UK head of state. Perhaps they should consider attending a university in another country. |
It was one of these American wokesters.
Can you imagine going to Harvard and starting a campaign to remove portraits of the President?
Oxford should grow some balls and kick this individual out, pronto. | |
| "It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it" |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 08:51 - Jun 10 with 540 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:31 - Jun 10 by Ajack_Kerouac |
It was one of these American wokesters.
Can you imagine going to Harvard and starting a campaign to remove portraits of the President?
Oxford should grow some balls and kick this individual out, pronto. |
The president of magdalena college, human rights lawyer Dinah Rose, is helping the Cayman Islands government oppose equal rights for homosexuals. I wonder if the same student who feel uncomfortable looking at a picture of the queen are comfortable with that. Perhaps they should get the college to fire her. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 08:49 - Jun 22 with 452 views | felixstowe_jack |
It seems the worst performing ethnic group in the last 20 years are poor white children. So much for white privilege in the education system. Wonder if more money will be made to help them catch up. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 09:30 - Jun 22 with 430 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:31 - Jun 10 by Ajack_Kerouac |
It was one of these American wokesters.
Can you imagine going to Harvard and starting a campaign to remove portraits of the President?
Oxford should grow some balls and kick this individual out, pronto. |
Oh donât be so ridiculous.
They havenât removed a picture of the Queen from anywhere other than the MCR where theyâd put one up to decorate the common room walls a few years ago and now have taken it down.
There are pictures of the Queen all over the official college buildings.
This sort of stuff is sensationalised to make people react. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:32 - Jun 22 with 427 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:51 - Jun 10 by felixstowe_jack |
The president of magdalena college, human rights lawyer Dinah Rose, is helping the Cayman Islands government oppose equal rights for homosexuals. I wonder if the same student who feel uncomfortable looking at a picture of the queen are comfortable with that. Perhaps they should get the college to fire her. |
No sheâs not.
She had to accept a brief as that is required by her position.
Again, people just make up complete crap in these âculture warsâ for the sake of it. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:33 - Jun 22 with 425 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:49 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack |
It seems the worst performing ethnic group in the last 20 years are poor white children. So much for white privilege in the education system. Wonder if more money will be made to help them catch up. |
You donât seem to realise what âwhite privilegeâ means.
It doesnât mean you are a privileged person, it means that you donât suffer as a result of your colour. Which you donât. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:37 - Jun 22 with 424 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:33 - Jun 22 by londonlisa2001 |
You donât seem to realise what âwhite privilegeâ means.
It doesnât mean you are a privileged person, it means that you donât suffer as a result of your colour. Which you donât. |
Seems white poor children are suffering in their education. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 09:42 - Jun 22 with 418 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The decline in educational standards... on 08:49 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack |
It seems the worst performing ethnic group in the last 20 years are poor white children. So much for white privilege in the education system. Wonder if more money will be made to help them catch up. |
Critical race theory as they call it is one of the most damaging things to enter the system in decades. Just horrific and people of all races are starting to reject it, sadly it has been allowed to fester for longer than it should have. |  |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 09:44 - Jun 22 with 414 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:37 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Seems white poor children are suffering in their education. |
Yes they are. The education in this country is failing many kids.
I was just correcting the use of âwhite privilegeâ which means something quite specific. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:46 - Jun 22 with 412 views | jack_lord |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:37 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Seems white poor children are suffering in their education. |
They are but that isn't anything to do with "white privilege". That is more to do with the broken society within which exist.
Redistribution of income or let the best/fortunate flourish? |  |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 09:53 - Jun 22 with 407 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:42 - Jun 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
Critical race theory as they call it is one of the most damaging things to enter the system in decades. Just horrific and people of all races are starting to reject it, sadly it has been allowed to fester for longer than it should have. |
I genuinely donât know whether you just say stuff to be controversial, or if you actually just donât know what half of this stuff means and just use sound bites from right wing, usually American, commentators.
How does critical race theory have anything to do with underperforming poor white kids in school? | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 10:08 - Jun 22 with 398 views | onehunglow |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:53 - Jun 22 by londonlisa2001 |
I genuinely donât know whether you just say stuff to be controversial, or if you actually just donât know what half of this stuff means and just use sound bites from right wing, usually American, commentators.
How does critical race theory have anything to do with underperforming poor white kids in school? |
The same can be said of you so there ya go.
Right now,the latest if how the "poor" kids have been failed. Might be ummat to do with many not seeing education as worth it when they can flog dope and get the girls the car and the bling. That is what is wrong. We need education to be cool,as it is to most asian kids who all want to aspire.Not for nothing are we seeing majority of doctors being mainly Asian. They WORK for it. Many of our kids dont.
It's not unlike our working class idle gits of old who didnt want to be bus conductors,nurses and refuse collectors so we invited our colonial people over to do our dirty work then treated them like dogshyte not even allowing them to rent a room in a craphole in Paddington..
This is the history lesson for today.
Now,if it doesn't happen on the mobile,it don't exist. Fact
I also do correspondence courses. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 10:15 - Jun 22 with 392 views | londonlisa2001 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 10:08 - Jun 22 by onehunglow |
The same can be said of you so there ya go.
Right now,the latest if how the "poor" kids have been failed. Might be ummat to do with many not seeing education as worth it when they can flog dope and get the girls the car and the bling. That is what is wrong. We need education to be cool,as it is to most asian kids who all want to aspire.Not for nothing are we seeing majority of doctors being mainly Asian. They WORK for it. Many of our kids dont.
It's not unlike our working class idle gits of old who didnt want to be bus conductors,nurses and refuse collectors so we invited our colonial people over to do our dirty work then treated them like dogshyte not even allowing them to rent a room in a craphole in Paddington..
This is the history lesson for today.
Now,if it doesn't happen on the mobile,it don't exist. Fact
I also do correspondence courses. |
Terrific.
Literally nothing to do with what I posted of course. | | | |
| The decline in educational standards... on 10:26 - Jun 22 with 380 views | onehunglow |
It' easy for any of us to fall through the trap door of ego on here. We've all done it. We all know it. We all know we've posted material we'd rather not if we were not so agitated.
People post they don't get angry,irritated or annoyed by that which they read. Lies of course.
No doubt at all the Grammar schools of old gave "working class" lads/lasses a chance to shine and achieve that which their parents could not.
If one is 70 + then you have lived through the golden age. | |
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| The decline in educational standards... on 10:50 - Jun 22 with 370 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The decline in educational standards... on 09:53 - Jun 22 by londonlisa2001 |
I genuinely donât know whether you just say stuff to be controversial, or if you actually just donât know what half of this stuff means and just use sound bites from right wing, usually American, commentators.
How does critical race theory have anything to do with underperforming poor white kids in school? |
No idea what you are talking about regarding that. Anybody who tends to know anything about a subject you tend to accuse them of getting it off some website or some commentator? How dare anyone have any actual knowledge on the subject at hand, right?
I have spoken in great depth about these subjects on here for a long time and demonstrated a clear and deep understanding, so I can only assume you are yet again doing your ever so tiresome attempts to undermine. Which of course you know doesn't work with me.
Critical race theory is extremely dangerous and extremely offensive, built on a lie and creates invisible barriers in peoples minds which will no doubt lead to underperformance and lack of ambition.
Underperforming white children is something I have not looked into, I was responding to a thread about the declining standards in education and a poster saying ''so much for white privilege in schools''. Critical race theory being taught in such educational establishments is without doubt an example of declining standards of education.
I didn't realise you were holding court in the thread and we all had to discuss a sub topic of your choosing. You do yourself no favors at times no here, its a real shame.
Oh, and what do you deem even remotely controversial about the statement I made exactly? It really isnt. [Post edited 26 Jun 2023 1:51]
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| The decline in educational standards... on 10:56 - Jun 22 with 363 views | Gwyn737 |
| The decline in educational standards... on 10:26 - Jun 22 by onehunglow |
It' easy for any of us to fall through the trap door of ego on here. We've all done it. We all know it. We all know we've posted material we'd rather not if we were not so agitated.
People post they don't get angry,irritated or annoyed by that which they read. Lies of course.
No doubt at all the Grammar schools of old gave "working class" lads/lasses a chance to shine and achieve that which their parents could not.
If one is 70 + then you have lived through the golden age. |
This video is based on irrefutable evidence gathered over decades that not only show that Grammar schools are not the answer but part of the problem.
Its only 4 mins long and I'd urge you to watch the whole thing. | | | |
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