| The unvaccinated are being locked up 23:37 - Nov 11 with 12585 views | builthjack |
Austria are heading for a lockdown for the unvaccinated. They are banned from a lot of places already. Perhaps other countries will follow.
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 19:02 - Dec 7 with 1023 views | onehunglow |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 16:00 - Dec 7 by Scotia |
This is exactly the reason that anti-vax type stuff should not be allowed to be posted.
This so called quote is completely fabricated, the "council on Eugenics" doesn't exist.
Kissinger never said this to anyone. It has just been posted on Facebook and people have believed it.
It's removed from Facebook, it should be removed from here.
Dangerous rubbish. [Post edited 7 Dec 2021 16:02]
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and it is fascist to suggest ALL are vaccinated to save lives.
To save lives ,mark you.
The world wants people to be vaccinated
We are killing each other by ignorance and arrogance |  |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 19:08 - Dec 7 with 1010 views | Wingstandwood |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 16:00 - Dec 7 by Scotia |
This is exactly the reason that anti-vax type stuff should not be allowed to be posted.
This so called quote is completely fabricated, the "council on Eugenics" doesn't exist.
Kissinger never said this to anyone. It has just been posted on Facebook and people have believed it.
It's removed from Facebook, it should be removed from here.
Dangerous rubbish. [Post edited 7 Dec 2021 16:02]
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When it comes to conspiracy theory there always comes a lot of lies, fantasy, make-believe, misinformation and downright bullsh1t. That sarcastic line people post up from time to time....
"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.“ – Abraham Lincoln |  |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 20:37 - Dec 7 with 966 views | Professor |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 19:08 - Dec 7 by Wingstandwood |
When it comes to conspiracy theory there always comes a lot of lies, fantasy, make-believe, misinformation and downright bullsh1t. That sarcastic line people post up from time to time....
"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.“ – Abraham Lincoln |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 20:55 - Dec 7 with 946 views | Gwyn737 |
If you take the letters in OMICRON DELTA and BETA and then replace then with a completely different set of letters it spells I NEED A NEW TINFOIL HAT. Makes you think.
You won’t hear that on the BBC. | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 21:28 - Dec 7 with 929 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 20:55 - Dec 7 by Gwyn737 |
If you take the letters in OMICRON DELTA and BETA and then replace then with a completely different set of letters it spells I NEED A NEW TINFOIL HAT. Makes you think.
You won’t hear that on the BBC. |
 I do laugh every time I see someone make an anagram of a variant as if it actually means something.
If you don't want the shot then I don't think anyone should be forced to, but leave that illuminati nonsense alone. |  |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 21:33 - Dec 7 with 932 views | DJack |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 15:51 - Dec 7 by jojaca |
Kissinger Quote from a speech to the WHO Council on Eugenics, February 25, 2009: ‘Once the herd accepts mandatory vaccinations, it’s game over. They will accept anything — forcible blood or organ donation — ‘for the greater good’. We can genetically modify children and sterilize them --- ‘for the greater good’. Control sheep minds and you control the herd. Vaccine makers stand to make billions. And many of you in this room are investors. It’s a big win-win. We thin out the herd and the herd pays us for extermination services….’” |
Well we can tell what sphere of influence information you hoover up. |  |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 22:54 - Dec 8 with 859 views | howenjack |
I dont know whether that quote is genuinely attributable to Kissinger but I do know that he referred to the common people as "useless eaters" . In other words litlle more than scum Not a nice man and when you talk like that eugenics becomes just one step further along the path of "progress". | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 00:43 - Dec 9 with 828 views | hobo |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 11:40 - Dec 6 by felixstowe_jack |
Is it?
Very interesting article by a ICU consultant in the guardian on Sunday 21st November. [Post edited 6 Dec 2021 11:46]
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Yeah it is
Confirmed below - 36% not 90%
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/lorr |  | | |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 06:15 - Dec 9 with 797 views | felixstowe_jack |
Even with your figures 36% of beds occupied by the unvaccinated from 8% of adult population that is 4 and a half time the rate of the vaccinated.
Another reason to get vaccinated. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 6:16]
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 06:51 - Dec 9 with 785 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 06:15 - Dec 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Even with your figures 36% of beds occupied by the unvaccinated from 8% of adult population that is 4 and a half time the rate of the vaccinated.
Another reason to get vaccinated. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 6:16]
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Whatever you say the statement put out by that programme was a blatant untruth. So what else is being lied about? |  |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 07:36 - Dec 9 with 773 views | ExiledJack |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 06:15 - Dec 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Even with your figures 36% of beds occupied by the unvaccinated from 8% of adult population that is 4 and a half time the rate of the vaccinated.
Another reason to get vaccinated. [Post edited 9 Dec 2021 6:16]
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For balance, does the 36% include those who were too ill to be vaccinated and who are far more likely to require beds anyway?
The narrative that the unvaccinated are causing undue problems for the NHS feels naive and convenient for the government, and avoids tackling structural issues. I’m not arguing with your point though that to date the vaccines generally lower an individual’s risk from Covid. | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 08:09 - Dec 9 with 766 views | Scotia |
The ICU consultant in the Guardian was referring to ICU occupancy, and not hospital admissions.
It sounds like Hilary was wrong to say that, he is very sensationalist.
It's not a like for like comparison though, and still demonstrates the excellent protection given by the vaccine. | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:33 - Dec 9 with 701 views | felixstowe_jack |
Fresh news today. Patients needing intensive ICU treatment (on ventilators) are made up 90% of unvaccinated patients.
Clearly unvaccinated have a much higher risk of catching it, a much higher risk of being hospitalised, a much higher risk on ending up on ventilators, a much higher risk of dying.
If only they would get vaccinated. | |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:36 - Dec 9 with 698 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:33 - Dec 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Fresh news today. Patients needing intensive ICU treatment (on ventilators) are made up 90% of unvaccinated patients.
Clearly unvaccinated have a much higher risk of catching it, a much higher risk of being hospitalised, a much higher risk on ending up on ventilators, a much higher risk of dying.
If only they would get vaccinated. |
Of course you’ve got a link for this | |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:38 - Dec 9 with 691 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:33 - Dec 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Fresh news today. Patients needing intensive ICU treatment (on ventilators) are made up 90% of unvaccinated patients.
Clearly unvaccinated have a much higher risk of catching it, a much higher risk of being hospitalised, a much higher risk on ending up on ventilators, a much higher risk of dying.
If only they would get vaccinated. |
How to catch COVID when you are double vaxxed medical workers?
Go to a Christmas party like the Tories.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:41 - Dec 9 with 689 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:36 - Dec 9 by Brynmill_Jack |
Of course you’ve got a link for this |
If it were actually true in the UK it means that they are not putting the Vaccinated in ICU and just letting them die instead.
As the Governemnt's own data shows that there are more Vaccintaed in hospital and dying.
So it doesn't seem very likely does it? | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up (n/t) on 08:39 - Dec 10 with 625 views | Scotia |
Of course they have, but probably 10's of thousands less than would have if they hadn't been vaccinated. | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 08:53 - Dec 10 with 621 views | majorraglan |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 18:41 - Dec 9 by A_Fans_Dad |
If it were actually true in the UK it means that they are not putting the Vaccinated in ICU and just letting them die instead.
As the Governemnt's own data shows that there are more Vaccintaed in hospital and dying.
So it doesn't seem very likely does it? |
I suspect it’s more a case of the vaccinated don’t quite need the full ICU care package as interventions such as CPAP are effective enough or ICU isn’t appropriate.
A large number of the vaccinated people in hospital are older, or people who have serious underlying health conditions, COPD, cancer etc and there are others who have conditions such as diabetes. Following clinical reviews some of these patients will be placed on an end of life care pathway because Covid and their underlying condition renders them to ill to treat - Covid is bringing about early deaths in some of these individuals.
With regards to the unvaccinated patients the profile is completely different, they are much younger including 20s and 30’s and often don’t have underlying conditions, of those who do have a health issue it could be something like diabetes which is under control and diet regulated. These tend to be the patients in the ICU’s. [Post edited 10 Dec 2021 8:54]
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 08:54 - Dec 10 with 616 views | DJack |
"One of Pennsylvania’s largest health systems has run out of beds because of the latest COVID-19 surge, with doctors and nurses practicing “waiting room medicine” on patients who are forced to endure 10- to 20-hour delays in the emergency department, officials said Wednesday.
Geisinger is running at 110% capacity across its nine hospitals in central and northeastern Pennsylvania – overrun with largely unvaccinated COVID-19 patients who represent a quarter to well over half of all admissions, said Dr. Jaewon Ryu, Geisinger’s president and chief executive officer. He said he expects the situation to deteriorate further in coming weeks, citing sharply rising numbers of cases and the increasing percentage of tests coming back positive."
"Bethlehem-based St. Luke’s University Health Network on Wednesday restricted visitation to two per patient – with COVID-19 patients not permitted any visitors unless they are nearing death – after reporting a “dramatic, ongoing surge in COVID-19 cases.” St. Luke’s reported 220 pandemic patients at its 14 campuses, nearly identical to the number of COVID-19 patients it was treating at this time last year.
“The current surge, largely driven by the unvaccinated population, is placing an enormous burden on our region’s health care system,” said Dr. Jeffrey Jahre, St. Luke’s vice president of medical and academic affairs."
https://apnews.com/article/cor | |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 13:43 - Dec 10 with 578 views | howenjack |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 08:54 - Dec 10 by DJack |
"One of Pennsylvania’s largest health systems has run out of beds because of the latest COVID-19 surge, with doctors and nurses practicing “waiting room medicine” on patients who are forced to endure 10- to 20-hour delays in the emergency department, officials said Wednesday.
Geisinger is running at 110% capacity across its nine hospitals in central and northeastern Pennsylvania – overrun with largely unvaccinated COVID-19 patients who represent a quarter to well over half of all admissions, said Dr. Jaewon Ryu, Geisinger’s president and chief executive officer. He said he expects the situation to deteriorate further in coming weeks, citing sharply rising numbers of cases and the increasing percentage of tests coming back positive."
"Bethlehem-based St. Luke’s University Health Network on Wednesday restricted visitation to two per patient – with COVID-19 patients not permitted any visitors unless they are nearing death – after reporting a “dramatic, ongoing surge in COVID-19 cases.” St. Luke’s reported 220 pandemic patients at its 14 campuses, nearly identical to the number of COVID-19 patients it was treating at this time last year.
“The current surge, largely driven by the unvaccinated population, is placing an enormous burden on our region’s health care system,” said Dr. Jeffrey Jahre, St. Luke’s vice president of medical and academic affairs."
https://apnews.com/article/cor |
Unfortunately for your argument you have to be able to define vaccinated . Vaccinated means not just having your 1st & 2nd jab but booster(s) as well . You wont be able to travel anywhere without the full set and you will be categorised unvaccinnated .
American hospitals are most probably using the same criteria which means people have been jabbed who get put into the unvaccinated category. Unless you are absolutely sure of the way they are being categorised or moreover the way the press/media are categorising them then this article must be treated as not proven. | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 14:05 - Dec 10 with 569 views | DJack |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 13:43 - Dec 10 by howenjack |
Unfortunately for your argument you have to be able to define vaccinated . Vaccinated means not just having your 1st & 2nd jab but booster(s) as well . You wont be able to travel anywhere without the full set and you will be categorised unvaccinnated .
American hospitals are most probably using the same criteria which means people have been jabbed who get put into the unvaccinated category. Unless you are absolutely sure of the way they are being categorised or moreover the way the press/media are categorising them then this article must be treated as not proven. |
Nope, fully vaccinated means having your 1st & 2nd jab but booster(s) as well. Nobody mentioned travel.
As far as I've read vaccinated (anywhere in the world) means having received a vaccine and as to "which means people have been jabbed who get put into the unvaccinated category." arrant nonsense.
Every CDC article on vaccination data mentions "Vaccinated" & "Fully Vaccinated". Partially vaccinated is not classed as unvaccinated. | |
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| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 14:17 - Dec 10 with 564 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 14:05 - Dec 10 by DJack |
Nope, fully vaccinated means having your 1st & 2nd jab but booster(s) as well. Nobody mentioned travel.
As far as I've read vaccinated (anywhere in the world) means having received a vaccine and as to "which means people have been jabbed who get put into the unvaccinated category." arrant nonsense.
Every CDC article on vaccination data mentions "Vaccinated" & "Fully Vaccinated". Partially vaccinated is not classed as unvaccinated. |
You are unaware of the rules then, form the UK.Gov site.
"Received one dose, ≥21 days before specimen date"
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"Second dose ≥14 days before specimen date"
Within those periods they get downrated, although it is not clear whether the Second dose reverts to a single dose or unvaxxed.
You need to read a bit more don't you. | | | |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 14:30 - Dec 10 with 559 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| The unvaccinated are being locked up on 14:05 - Dec 10 by DJack |
Nope, fully vaccinated means having your 1st & 2nd jab but booster(s) as well. Nobody mentioned travel.
As far as I've read vaccinated (anywhere in the world) means having received a vaccine and as to "which means people have been jabbed who get put into the unvaccinated category." arrant nonsense.
Every CDC article on vaccination data mentions "Vaccinated" & "Fully Vaccinated". Partially vaccinated is not classed as unvaccinated. |
Haven't you realised yet that every country/Area says it is being driven by the unvaccinated and yet when the numbers are looked at it in most cases it is not true.
Take the current hospitalisations data for weeks 45 to 48 in the UK.
Unvaxxed = 3187
Vaxxed = 4875
Double vaxxed are 4535 of the 4875. | | | |
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