| Same old England 13:31 - Nov 20 with 12990 views | trampie |
How have England got such an easy draw on paper yet again in this World Cup ?
Before looking at the draw I thought they won't get past both Brazil and Argentina but it looks likely that Brazil and Argentina are going to be in a different half of the draw and destined to play each other in the semis, so any potential winner from the other half won't have to play the both of them (unless one of Brazil/Argentina don't win their group and perhaps they would be not that good anyway in that scenario).
Brazil might be deemed to be better overhaul than Argentina but possibly not head to head versus Argentina (didn't Argentina beat Brazil in the last Copa America ) so if Argentina get past Brazil in the semis then there is as much chance of an Argentina v England as there is of any other possible finals.
Iran, USA and Wales in the group for one of the 'big teams' in the form of England means they couldn't ask for better draw than that, then the possible easiest last 16 tie for them (possibly Senegal from Africa) then a potential Quarter final against France, France seem to be on the way down they lost 2-0 to Denmark last time out, they have injuries to their top players like Benzema and Pogba then England would have on paper a possible semi final against ageing Belgium.
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| Same old England on 16:42 - Nov 20 with 917 views | Gwyn737 |
| Same old England on 16:41 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
I’m not having this Gwyn even if it gets me banned
I am nit having racism in its purest form on here and that is what it is.
English race
Welsh race
This when most of our team is English as well as the coach
Not on. |
Tbf I don’t see it as racism.
It’s bigotry. |  | | |
| Same old England on 16:49 - Nov 20 with 905 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Same old England on 16:22 - Nov 20 by trampie |
The draw means there should be betting and fantasy value on England in this tournament, how many tournaments do England get an easy draw in, it's uncanny, mind you the way FIFA and the football authorities conduct themselves and the corruption around the football authorities perhaps it needs to be looked at why England get favourable draws all the time is it just continual good luck or something else...hmm |
It’s just good luck, and they rarely capitalise.
I’ll agree with you should they ease through to the final but I’ll save my outrage for now
I wouldn’t put anything past FIFA or UEFA but I’m not sure England is a country they look to help out [Post edited 20 Nov 2022 16:51]
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| Same old England on 16:50 - Nov 20 with 904 views | raynor94 |
Tramps has always been a bigot.
Should have been banned off here a long time ago for his trolling posts |  |
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| Same old England on 16:52 - Nov 20 with 897 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 16:37 - Nov 20 by Gwyn737 |
Depends OHL.
If you’re not red headed with blue eyes and freckles you’re not part of Resovlen’s master race. |
I’m not having this Gwyn even if it gets me banned
I am nit having racism in its purest form on here and that is what it is.
English race
Welsh race
This when most of our team is English as well as the coach
Not on. | |
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| Same old England on 16:52 - Nov 20 with 902 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Same old England on 16:37 - Nov 20 by Gwyn737 |
Depends OHL.
If you’re not red headed with blue eyes and freckles you’re not part of Resovlen’s master race. |
Here we go. i am mongrel.
Putin tactics surely you can see your own bigotry in the mirror of Kviv. Lazy thinking Gwyn.
Slava Ukraini. |  |
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| Same old England on 16:53 - Nov 20 with 893 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 16:52 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Here we go. i am mongrel.
Putin tactics surely you can see your own bigotry in the mirror of Kviv. Lazy thinking Gwyn.
Slava Ukraini. |
We are all mongrels
Understand that.
Hitler did try to change it though | |
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| Same old England on 16:56 - Nov 20 with 886 views | Gwyn737 |
| Same old England on 16:52 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Here we go. i am mongrel.
Putin tactics surely you can see your own bigotry in the mirror of Kviv. Lazy thinking Gwyn.
Slava Ukraini. |
I’ve posted very little on Ukraine and nothing at all about the associated ethnicities there.
It’s you who are obsessed with race.
Decided you’re a mongrel now, have you? Now that’s lazy thinking. | | | |
| Same old England on 16:59 - Nov 20 with 869 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 16:56 - Nov 20 by Gwyn737 |
I’ve posted very little on Ukraine and nothing at all about the associated ethnicities there.
It’s you who are obsessed with race.
Decided you’re a mongrel now, have you? Now that’s lazy thinking. |
Russians . Now there s full on race purity in action.
Liberators of Russian thinking people in Ukraine | |
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| Same old England on 17:02 - Nov 20 with 870 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Same old England on 16:28 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So what were they called. "English **********" you fill in the blanks. Pakistani ********. Off you go learned friend. Lets see your list. "West Indian ******"
"What do you say to those that say you are nothing more than Welsh wind bag Mr Kinnock". BBC.
Putin - "Ukrainians are just like us Russians no difference. Odessa belong to the Russian people as one." St Peterberg and Lviv same people.
Slava Ukraini. [Post edited 20 Nov 2022 16:32]
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I always try to post respectfully to you, so not sure why the ‘learned ‘ bit is needed.
Not entirely sure what your point is, when I was in Uni in Wales, I heard plenty of ‘English….’ As insults to my mates.
In the Bristol game, what you class the ‘I can’t read…tractor ‘ song isn’t that racism ?
Answer,of course not. It’s nonsense .
But again, wales has not been invaded, we’re the same country. If, for some bizarre reason, Sunak declared that Wales was no longer Wales, and we would be classed as English going forward, I’d agree, but, I’d imagine, that’s pretty unlikely. |  | | |
| Same old England on 17:11 - Nov 20 with 856 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Same old England on 16:53 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
We are all mongrels
Understand that.
Hitler did try to change it though |
I understand it completely. I am Welsh and defend my corner of the Union. We have our own football team and our abused minister is batting for Wales not on a jaunt. He is safe pair of hands. I defend him. You want them to come home and put Swansea above Wales every time.
Wales is an important strategic place in European energy sector which is now global big news. Qatar are big players.
I explained historically why you and other think like this. English immigrants like Asians today congregated on city centres. They love their city centres dearly. Good for them. They may be less enamoured on the region country as a whole (such as the Neath Valley) . This outlook is carried for generations.
Swansea ultras are likely going to think parochially. They will espouse hate for Cardiff but call apathy for England as being racist. Its just a matter of perspective. I love the English but want them out of the World cup as any football rival would. | |
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| Same old England on 17:32 - Nov 20 with 825 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 17:11 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I understand it completely. I am Welsh and defend my corner of the Union. We have our own football team and our abused minister is batting for Wales not on a jaunt. He is safe pair of hands. I defend him. You want them to come home and put Swansea above Wales every time.
Wales is an important strategic place in European energy sector which is now global big news. Qatar are big players.
I explained historically why you and other think like this. English immigrants like Asians today congregated on city centres. They love their city centres dearly. Good for them. They may be less enamoured on the region country as a whole (such as the Neath Valley) . This outlook is carried for generations.
Swansea ultras are likely going to think parochially. They will espouse hate for Cardiff but call apathy for England as being racist. Its just a matter of perspective. I love the English but want them out of the World cup as any football rival would. |
Union. That means we are the same .
We are a Union because we are the same . Racially identical.
I am identical to a scouser,geordie ,cockney ,Brummie and somebody from Llanychymedd .
Attitude different though to the last | |
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| Same old England on 17:33 - Nov 20 with 825 views | trampie |
| Same old England on 17:11 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I understand it completely. I am Welsh and defend my corner of the Union. We have our own football team and our abused minister is batting for Wales not on a jaunt. He is safe pair of hands. I defend him. You want them to come home and put Swansea above Wales every time.
Wales is an important strategic place in European energy sector which is now global big news. Qatar are big players.
I explained historically why you and other think like this. English immigrants like Asians today congregated on city centres. They love their city centres dearly. Good for them. They may be less enamoured on the region country as a whole (such as the Neath Valley) . This outlook is carried for generations.
Swansea ultras are likely going to think parochially. They will espouse hate for Cardiff but call apathy for England as being racist. Its just a matter of perspective. I love the English but want them out of the World cup as any football rival would. |
They might not be out of the World cup have you seen their projected draw that I have run through all the way to a possible final, they might be able to go the whole way because of the draw and it's like that virtually every tournament, it's uncanny how it happens. | |
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| Same old England on 17:35 - Nov 20 with 816 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 17:33 - Nov 20 by trampie |
They might not be out of the World cup have you seen their projected draw that I have run through all the way to a possible final, they might be able to go the whole way because of the draw and it's like that virtually every tournament, it's uncanny how it happens. |
They qualify,as a rule. We don’t.this is a freak show for us.
Suck it up.
We are a novelty .
ThecEnglish want us to do well.
Incredible
How dense are they | |
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| Same old England on 17:52 - Nov 20 with 804 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 15:37 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Similar in some respects. Some Welsh have strong love for England and its values and run down Wales at every opportunity. Union flags abound I explain the origin of this apathy to all things Welsh to the readership. One poster is in my opinion "getting away with it".
I get accused of having "pure bred Welsh" love which i have never espoused. I am a mongrel. It is subtle but sinister.
Russian speaking Ukrainians are also torn and vilify the Kiev government through spin and propaganda. An extreme comparison of course. There are people who say similar things to Putin. "There is no difference between the Welsh and English and the WAG should be disbanded".
Drakeford gets massive pelters, 'Dickford' 'Dripford' "Drippyford". etc. The Scottish leader is now "Wee Willie Krankee" or similar. No English politician gets this type of abuse. I remember Kinnock who I have no love for being called a "Welsh windbag". I cannot see Sunak being called a "Asian Airbag". Any journo who did, would be sacked within minutes. |
100 per cent correct.
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| Same old England on 17:54 - Nov 20 with 802 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 16:18 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
You can’t be an immigrant moving within the same country.
In this case Great Britain. Our country . |
Great Britain is a geographical term for the largest island of the British Isles.
Great Britain is not a nation. | |
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| Same old England on 18:01 - Nov 20 with 788 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 17:35 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
They qualify,as a rule. We don’t.this is a freak show for us.
Suck it up.
We are a novelty .
ThecEnglish want us to do well.
Incredible
How dense are they |
The Saes get seeded in qualification groups.
Cymru does not.
England did not qualify in 1966, 1970, 1974, 1978, and 1994,
Just to be fair about the facts. | |
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| Same old England on 18:16 - Nov 20 with 777 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 17:02 - Nov 20 by Sirjohnalot |
I always try to post respectfully to you, so not sure why the ‘learned ‘ bit is needed.
Not entirely sure what your point is, when I was in Uni in Wales, I heard plenty of ‘English….’ As insults to my mates.
In the Bristol game, what you class the ‘I can’t read…tractor ‘ song isn’t that racism ?
Answer,of course not. It’s nonsense .
But again, wales has not been invaded, we’re the same country. If, for some bizarre reason, Sunak declared that Wales was no longer Wales, and we would be classed as English going forward, I’d agree, but, I’d imagine, that’s pretty unlikely. |
Wales and England are different nations.
Thats is simply a fact.
The voting of the people who live in Cymru has rejected Tory values for over 100 years.
Quite different to England, i am sure you would agree.
There is also our language and culture that helps define us.
Lots of our families have moved into Wales for work, of course, and our modern diversity is a strength.
But England treating Wales as little more than a cheap theme park has to end.
Johnson describing devolution as a disaster tells you all you need to know.
HS2 has treated Wales appallingly.
The new Prince of Wales is another load of old bollox.
When Scotland is free and Ireland is united, within 5 years, then Wales will speak.
As Drakeford has said, modernise and make the union work for Wales …. Or all options will have to be looked out. Annibyniaeth ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ | |
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| Same old England on 18:22 - Nov 20 with 758 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Same old England on 17:02 - Nov 20 by Sirjohnalot |
I always try to post respectfully to you, so not sure why the ‘learned ‘ bit is needed.
Not entirely sure what your point is, when I was in Uni in Wales, I heard plenty of ‘English….’ As insults to my mates.
In the Bristol game, what you class the ‘I can’t read…tractor ‘ song isn’t that racism ?
Answer,of course not. It’s nonsense .
But again, wales has not been invaded, we’re the same country. If, for some bizarre reason, Sunak declared that Wales was no longer Wales, and we would be classed as English going forward, I’d agree, but, I’d imagine, that’s pretty unlikely. |
Sorry about the learned quip.
it is you yourself saying there are no differences between the people of Bury and Neath. Bury is largely Asian for one thing, probably with a textile heritage we do not have in Wales. If there is no difference why do we have separate teams?.
There are clear subtle racially motivated digs on this site which I seek to expose. It come from urban Swansea people that will on a daily basis big up the union of the UK and downgrade Wales sometime in very derogatory terms. Some will even deny Welsh as being an ethnic unit. It has parallels with what Putin is saying. to justify his war crimes land grab and common theft.
Swansea / Wales fans sing disgusting racial slurs against themselves instead of calling out the perpetrators. it is illegal when close up and personal. It is engaging in racial aggravated bigotry. and not acceptable in my eyes. The club says it has "zero tolerance approach". This is fake. Boris talked of abolishing the WAG, | |
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| Same old England on 18:27 - Nov 20 with 749 views | raynor94 |
| Same old England on 18:16 - Nov 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Wales and England are different nations.
Thats is simply a fact.
The voting of the people who live in Cymru has rejected Tory values for over 100 years.
Quite different to England, i am sure you would agree.
There is also our language and culture that helps define us.
Lots of our families have moved into Wales for work, of course, and our modern diversity is a strength.
But England treating Wales as little more than a cheap theme park has to end.
Johnson describing devolution as a disaster tells you all you need to know.
HS2 has treated Wales appallingly.
The new Prince of Wales is another load of old bollox.
When Scotland is free and Ireland is united, within 5 years, then Wales will speak.
As Drakeford has said, modernise and make the union work for Wales …. Or all options will have to be looked out. Annibyniaeth ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |
Look out the other bigoted xenophobe has arrived.
Why not keep your political claptrap for the non football board! | |
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| Same old England on 18:29 - Nov 20 with 739 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Same old England on 18:16 - Nov 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Wales and England are different nations.
Thats is simply a fact.
The voting of the people who live in Cymru has rejected Tory values for over 100 years.
Quite different to England, i am sure you would agree.
There is also our language and culture that helps define us.
Lots of our families have moved into Wales for work, of course, and our modern diversity is a strength.
But England treating Wales as little more than a cheap theme park has to end.
Johnson describing devolution as a disaster tells you all you need to know.
HS2 has treated Wales appallingly.
The new Prince of Wales is another load of old bollox.
When Scotland is free and Ireland is united, within 5 years, then Wales will speak.
As Drakeford has said, modernise and make the union work for Wales …. Or all options will have to be looked out. Annibyniaeth ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |
The SE of England is very different to Wales, as iits very different to Manchester, Brum, Liverpool, Newcastle who have great similarities to Wales.
Manchester has a labour Mayor as does Liverpool,Manchester voted to remain as, I think, did Liverpool.
How is the Manc’s culture different to Wales’ or Sheffield’s ? Same background, same working class culture. As for the language, how many in the South speak Welsh ?
Re diversity, Manchester is very diverse, both LGBTQ+ and ethnically.
Look at the so called ‘levelling up’ in the North, it was never going to happen. We get the old stock trains, we were put in a lower category during covid, till Burnham spoke out.
Prince of Wales….really don’t see a problem there, but I can understand why you might
Johnson treats where I live like rubbish too. Please don’t equate England with the SE and Johnson | | | |
| Same old England on 19:05 - Nov 20 with 712 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 18:16 - Nov 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Wales and England are different nations.
Thats is simply a fact.
The voting of the people who live in Cymru has rejected Tory values for over 100 years.
Quite different to England, i am sure you would agree.
There is also our language and culture that helps define us.
Lots of our families have moved into Wales for work, of course, and our modern diversity is a strength.
But England treating Wales as little more than a cheap theme park has to end.
Johnson describing devolution as a disaster tells you all you need to know.
HS2 has treated Wales appallingly.
The new Prince of Wales is another load of old bollox.
When Scotland is free and Ireland is united, within 5 years, then Wales will speak.
As Drakeford has said, modernise and make the union work for Wales …. Or all options will have to be looked out. Annibyniaeth ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |
Not fact at all
Neither nations
Not sovereign ones anyway.
It’s why Wales and England are not at the UN
No difference between Doncaster and Dowlais | |
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| Same old England on 19:11 - Nov 20 with 703 views | pencoedjack |
| Same old England on 18:27 - Nov 20 by raynor94 |
Look out the other bigoted xenophobe has arrived.
Why not keep your political claptrap for the non football board! |
Has he apologised for calling Lord Mountbatten a peadophile yet?
Sick bigoted individual |  | | |
| Same old England on 19:20 - Nov 20 with 681 views | onehunglow |
| Same old England on 19:11 - Nov 20 by pencoedjack |
Has he apologised for calling Lord Mountbatten a peadophile yet?
Sick bigoted individual |
I suppose if I was vindictive I could dig up the dirty deeds of De Valera,a Man who wanted Hitler to beat us ,just to get a United Ireland.
Or any of Irish priests that preyed on children for centuries.
Irish State sponsored abuse
I might mention those daughters ofdarkness who terrified young girls in their care and then those who deposited the babies of unmarried girl to the four winds
Mountbatten a saint in comparison
Ireland,the dirtiest of all countries . | |
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| Same old England on 19:25 - Nov 20 with 678 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 19:05 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
Not fact at all
Neither nations
Not sovereign ones anyway.
It’s why Wales and England are not at the UN
No difference between Doncaster and Dowlais |
A sovereign state - a state with a defined territory that administers its own government and is not subject to or dependent on another power.
The ‘United Kingdom’ refers to a political union between, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Although the UK is a fully independent sovereign state, the 4 nations that make it up are also countries in their own right.
So it is an unarguable fact that both England and Wales are nations. Thank you.
Just because you do not want something to be true, does not alter the fact that it is true.
And - guess what - Wales is not a principality either …or Prince Willy Windsor would be able to make our laws. More bollox from the BBC and the WRU i’m afraid. | |
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| Same old England on 19:28 - Nov 20 with 673 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Same old England on 19:20 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
I suppose if I was vindictive I could dig up the dirty deeds of De Valera,a Man who wanted Hitler to beat us ,just to get a United Ireland.
Or any of Irish priests that preyed on children for centuries.
Irish State sponsored abuse
I might mention those daughters ofdarkness who terrified young girls in their care and then those who deposited the babies of unmarried girl to the four winds
Mountbatten a saint in comparison
Ireland,the dirtiest of all countries . |
Now just imagine if any other poster had posted that about England. | |
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