| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player 10:55 - Jun 26 with 3869 views | SwansIndependent |
 PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player 26th Jun 2021 10:51PSV Eindhoven via Swansea Independent have this morning confirmed that Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player. As we reported on receiving the news two weeks ago a fee was agreed between PSV and Swansea City enabling his transfer on July 1st.  0
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:02 - Jun 26 with 2419 views | KeithHaynes |
I do believe this was broken by swansea Independent two weeks back, causing some ridicule on twitter 😂ðŸ¤
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:04 - Jun 26 with 2390 views | onehunglow |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:02 - Jun 26 by KeithHaynes |
I do believe this was broken by swansea Independent two weeks back, causing some ridicule on twitter 😂ðŸ¤
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Good work Guv
Hope he is the real deal | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:09 - Jun 26 with 2361 views | builthjack |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:02 - Jun 26 by KeithHaynes |
I do believe this was broken by swansea Independent two weeks back, causing some ridicule on twitter 😂ðŸ¤
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You were on the ball again Mr Haynes |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:23 - Jun 26 with 2328 views | dobjack2 |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:02 - Jun 26 by KeithHaynes |
I do believe this was broken by swansea Independent two weeks back, causing some ridicule on twitter 😂ðŸ¤
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Does this mean that a work permit has been obtained? | | | |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:41 - Jun 26 with 2285 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:23 - Jun 26 by dobjack2 |
Does this mean that a work permit has been obtained? |
I want to see the player holding the shirt and gving one of those terrible inteviews which are all the same. Even then I cannot be sure after the Darnel Situ fiasco of 10 years ago. |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 12:33 - Jun 26 with 2141 views | Boundy |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 11:02 - Jun 26 by KeithHaynes |
I do believe this was broken by swansea Independent two weeks back, causing some ridicule on twitter 😂ðŸ¤
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There's people who know and those that think they do . | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 13:07 - Jun 26 with 2062 views | Badlands |
c€1 million! |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 13:12 - Jun 26 with 2048 views | jasper_T |
Just the medical and work permit left to navigate. | | | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 13:32 - Jun 26 with 2006 views | Catullus |
He's been compared to Van Nistelrooy so lets hope he is the real deal, he could be a great signing, assuming all the rest of the paperwork goes through anyway.
We are still talking to other forwards too, lets hope that lesson is well and truly learned.
Now we just need to know what's happening with Cooper and if/when he goes, who our next manager is. | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 13:59 - Jun 26 with 1948 views | jack_lord |
Here's to him becoming a legend in his first season and well done to Keith for getting the exclusive. |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 14:13 - Jun 26 with 1917 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 13:32 - Jun 26 by Catullus |
He's been compared to Van Nistelrooy so lets hope he is the real deal, he could be a great signing, assuming all the rest of the paperwork goes through anyway.
We are still talking to other forwards too, lets hope that lesson is well and truly learned.
Now we just need to know what's happening with Cooper and if/when he goes, who our next manager is. |
Hasn't been able to get regular minutes in the Eredivisie.
3 in 26 appearances. Someone must have seen something in him, just hope they are right. |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 14:59 - Jun 26 with 1837 views | dobjack2 |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 14:13 - Jun 26 by Dr_Parnassus |
Hasn't been able to get regular minutes in the Eredivisie.
3 in 26 appearances. Someone must have seen something in him, just hope they are right. |
The 26 games is probably misleading as he appears to have been used as a substitute, often a late one, for PSV and also appeared to be a substitute when on loan to Sparta Rotterdam.
Lack of full games at a senior level may be more of an issue. | | | |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 15:25 - Jun 26 with 1797 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 14:59 - Jun 26 by dobjack2 |
The 26 games is probably misleading as he appears to have been used as a substitute, often a late one, for PSV and also appeared to be a substitute when on loan to Sparta Rotterdam.
Lack of full games at a senior level may be more of an issue. |
That was my point, he’s struggled for minutes in his career so far. He was sent on loan to a lesser team and still didn’t really get guaranteed game time. That league is not a great standard so unless he’s a late developer or we have seen something someone else has missed (which is entirely possible) then I very much doubt it’s the second coming of Ruud van Nistelrooy.
As long as he can hold the ball and lead the line then that will be an improvement on the role last year. I just think it’s important we keep expectations in check, especially in a confidence position like a striker.
Maybe it’s one we think we can develop while with us and not the finished article, may explain the lack of competition for his signature elsewhere and PSV’s apparent willingness to let him go.l for not very much money. | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 15:42 - Jun 26 with 1768 views | dobjack2 |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 15:25 - Jun 26 by Dr_Parnassus |
That was my point, he’s struggled for minutes in his career so far. He was sent on loan to a lesser team and still didn’t really get guaranteed game time. That league is not a great standard so unless he’s a late developer or we have seen something someone else has missed (which is entirely possible) then I very much doubt it’s the second coming of Ruud van Nistelrooy.
As long as he can hold the ball and lead the line then that will be an improvement on the role last year. I just think it’s important we keep expectations in check, especially in a confidence position like a striker.
Maybe it’s one we think we can develop while with us and not the finished article, may explain the lack of competition for his signature elsewhere and PSV’s apparent willingness to let him go.l for not very much money. |
Agree. The stats suggest that he is not the finished article, if he was we couldn’t afford him. Mind you if he gets a work permit we will have a lot of young forwards. | | | |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 15:56 - Jun 26 with 1734 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 15:42 - Jun 26 by dobjack2 |
Agree. The stats suggest that he is not the finished article, if he was we couldn’t afford him. Mind you if he gets a work permit we will have a lot of young forwards. |
Yes and no. With regards to the stats showing he’s not the finished article - not necessarily, PSV and Sparta (and the teams that didn’t make a move despite being available) may well think he is the finished article, or already pretty much developed, but simply not good enough. Hence the price tag and willingness to sell.
He will be 22 by the time the season starts. The next couple of years may be make or break for him, if he is still to develop still, then it will be a late development. The Championship is a tough, tough league to cut your teeth in.
As you rightly say, we will already have a lot of young forwards which appears we think we can develop. So with this one I am surprised we went for inexperience and youth again, may sound like I’m being a bit pessimistic but the signing doesn’t make a whole lot of immediate sense to me on the face of it, especially with what I assume is a limited warchest.
But maybe I’m missing something. [Post edited 26 Jun 2021 16:02]
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 19:50 - Jun 26 with 1578 views | max936 |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 15:56 - Jun 26 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes and no. With regards to the stats showing he’s not the finished article - not necessarily, PSV and Sparta (and the teams that didn’t make a move despite being available) may well think he is the finished article, or already pretty much developed, but simply not good enough. Hence the price tag and willingness to sell.
He will be 22 by the time the season starts. The next couple of years may be make or break for him, if he is still to develop still, then it will be a late development. The Championship is a tough, tough league to cut your teeth in.
As you rightly say, we will already have a lot of young forwards which appears we think we can develop. So with this one I am surprised we went for inexperience and youth again, may sound like I’m being a bit pessimistic but the signing doesn’t make a whole lot of immediate sense to me on the face of it, especially with what I assume is a limited warchest.
But maybe I’m missing something. [Post edited 26 Jun 2021 16:02]
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Stats, stats, stats, shove them where the shine don't shine, I hear enough about stats mon to fri in work. stats don't get football games won or the work done, its just a job for people that can't play football or do the job and the galling thing is they usually earn more.
Useless parasites that undermine people who actually put in the hard yrds. |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 20:06 - Jun 26 with 1544 views | onehunglow |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 19:50 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Stats, stats, stats, shove them where the shine don't shine, I hear enough about stats mon to fri in work. stats don't get football games won or the work done, its just a job for people that can't play football or do the job and the galling thing is they usually earn more.
Useless parasites that undermine people who actually put in the hard yrds. |
A.................................MEN.
Stats people are not what we need to listen to. | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 20:14 - Jun 26 with 1524 views | Whiterockin |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 20:06 - Jun 26 by onehunglow |
A.................................MEN.
Stats people are not what we need to listen to. |
Stats people don't have a clue what the beautiful game is really all about. |  | | |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 20:14 - Jun 26 with 1521 views | jasper_T |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 19:50 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Stats, stats, stats, shove them where the shine don't shine, I hear enough about stats mon to fri in work. stats don't get football games won or the work done, its just a job for people that can't play football or do the job and the galling thing is they usually earn more.
Useless parasites that undermine people who actually put in the hard yrds. |
Your breed are dying out. Football clubs that ignore the value of statistical analysis fall behind. | | | |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 20:20 - Jun 26 with 1497 views | magicdaps10 |
Stats are overrayed for sure!
Stats are for people who want to be in control and dictate..... Football is played on a pitch NOT on some spreadsheet. |  |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 00:52 - Jun 27 with 1336 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 19:50 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Stats, stats, stats, shove them where the shine don't shine, I hear enough about stats mon to fri in work. stats don't get football games won or the work done, its just a job for people that can't play football or do the job and the galling thing is they usually earn more.
Useless parasites that undermine people who actually put in the hard yrds. |
You may need to tell that to every single football club that use them daily then, and put such an importance on them that they even add trackers into their jerseys so the analytical teams can keep track of all physical and technical stats.
Not everyone understands them or their importance, usually fans in a non analytical work place, so are often met with responses such as this. But to underestimate the importance of stats within football is as foolish as it is naive.
Nobody is saying stats win football matches or gets work done, that isn’t what stats do. Stats can (and often do) show how much work is getting done, the quality of that work, why games aren’t getting won and weaknesses within individuals or an organisation.
The issue some have with stats is they often reveal uncomfortable truths or show some alternative facts to sway the narrative to be utter nonsense. It cuts through nonsense immediately, which is why they won’t be going anywhere soon in football. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 0:58]
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 00:59 - Jun 27 with 1325 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 20:14 - Jun 26 by jasper_T |
Your breed are dying out. Football clubs that ignore the value of statistical analysis fall behind. |
Correct.
Absolutely massive part of the game and growing by the year, quite understandably. | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 06:59 - Jun 27 with 1254 views | Catullus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 19:50 - Jun 26 by max936 |
Stats, stats, stats, shove them where the shine don't shine, I hear enough about stats mon to fri in work. stats don't get football games won or the work done, its just a job for people that can't play football or do the job and the galling thing is they usually earn more.
Useless parasites that undermine people who actually put in the hard yrds. |
Not many people had looked at Rangel until we spotted him, Michu hadn't exactly been a household name. Sometimes these signing pay off handsomely, sometimes they don't. Jamie Vardy didn't break through til he was 27! | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 08:49 - Jun 27 with 1164 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 06:59 - Jun 27 by Catullus |
Not many people had looked at Rangel until we spotted him, Michu hadn't exactly been a household name. Sometimes these signing pay off handsomely, sometimes they don't. Jamie Vardy didn't break through til he was 27! |
Michu scored 15 in 37 in La Liga the season before we signed him. Finished in the top 10 scorers list, presented a low risk signing in the Premier League.
Rangel was an ever present for Terrassa in the Spanish Segunda B. Martinez knew of him before hand, I'm sure his stats were also very good scoring 7 from RB, he seemed to play most games in that league for the clubs he played for. We paid 2.5k for him with Rangel paying the rest himself. Very low risk signing.
But yes, some do develop late and that is what we must hope for here. But even Vardy showed he could score before his move, 16 goals in that Championship season, 31 in 36 for Fleetwood before that and 26 in 37 for Halifax before that. | |
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| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 09:15 - Jun 27 with 1134 views | magicdaps10 |
| PSV confirm Joel Piroe is a Swansea City player on 08:49 - Jun 27 by Dr_Parnassus |
Michu scored 15 in 37 in La Liga the season before we signed him. Finished in the top 10 scorers list, presented a low risk signing in the Premier League.
Rangel was an ever present for Terrassa in the Spanish Segunda B. Martinez knew of him before hand, I'm sure his stats were also very good scoring 7 from RB, he seemed to play most games in that league for the clubs he played for. We paid 2.5k for him with Rangel paying the rest himself. Very low risk signing.
But yes, some do develop late and that is what we must hope for here. But even Vardy showed he could score before his move, 16 goals in that Championship season, 31 in 36 for Fleetwood before that and 26 in 37 for Halifax before that. |
Martinez never knew of Rangel before he signed, Reeves and Martinez went out to Spain to watch a centre forward and were so impressed with the opposition right back that they took a gamble..... The Angel Rangel story began! | |
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