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That 2nd half 20:36 - Jan 15 with 2422 viewsmagicdaps10

A cracking 2nd half and not just a positive but a real positive to push on.

Best half of football I have seen us play in a very long time. Hopefully we get the quality in this month and really push on.

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That 2nd half on 20:46 - Jan 15 with 1440 viewsmagicdaps10

Think we are a few players being a decent team.

I really hope that the club get the players in to back up that 2nd half performance.

Real possibilities if given the chance.

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That 2nd half on 21:25 - Jan 15 with 1390 viewsbuilthjack

That 2nd half on 20:46 - Jan 15 by magicdaps10

Think we are a few players being a decent team.

I really hope that the club get the players in to back up that 2nd half performance.

Real possibilities if given the chance.


I said at the start that Russ would need at least a couple of transfer windows to get the players he wants.
My No 2 disagrees though.

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That 2nd half on 21:32 - Jan 15 with 1370 viewsmagicdaps10

That 2nd half on 21:25 - Jan 15 by builthjack

I said at the start that Russ would need at least a couple of transfer windows to get the players he wants.
My No 2 disagrees though.


I would agree with you, was always going to be a work in progress rather than instant success.

Your no 2 is right to have their view/opinion but your opinion can't be discounted until we are further down the line.

There are signs of positivity as much as there as been worries but it's something that many have expected so it comes as no suprise.

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That 2nd half on 21:35 - Jan 15 with 1360 viewsThrasher6

You are right..totally..but being positive..being objective..doesn't fit the narrative of some of us...
Thought we did well today....don't lose...take a point...move on...three points next game

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That 2nd half on 21:45 - Jan 15 with 1328 viewsReslovenSwan1

The vision of the club is extremely ambitious. It is to be the Manchester city of the championship. This will take time its obvious. Brendan proved you do not need world beaters to play this way with the likes of Taylor Rangel, Williams, Monk and Tate in the back 5.

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That 2nd half on 21:49 - Jan 15 with 1298 viewsWhiterockin

That 2nd half on 21:45 - Jan 15 by ReslovenSwan1

The vision of the club is extremely ambitious. It is to be the Manchester city of the championship. This will take time its obvious. Brendan proved you do not need world beaters to play this way with the likes of Taylor Rangel, Williams, Monk and Tate in the back 5.


That post is a bit ridiculous. Extremely ambitious to remain a championship club?
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That 2nd half on 22:18 - Jan 15 with 1262 viewsSirjohnalot

That 2nd half on 21:49 - Jan 15 by Whiterockin

That post is a bit ridiculous. Extremely ambitious to remain a championship club?


I think he means to build a team playing great football in the championship and getting promotion.
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That 2nd half on 23:13 - Jan 15 with 1195 viewsOptimisticJack

Seen so many derogatory remarks about us supporters recently who tend to use the mantra -
"Period of transition "
"Patience required "
etc etc
I stick by these and similar comments all the way , even if it means at times taking one step forward and two steps back.
This I sincerely hope is a long term project and I for one am well and truly in.

Optimisticjack

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That 2nd half on 23:20 - Jan 15 with 1185 viewsBadlands

Outplayed for 15 - 20 minutes, then even for 10 then almost total control.
Heard that even BBC Wales were calling it fantastic football … but good enough for hoofball fans.
We drew because we played football.
[Post edited 15 Jan 2022 23:21]

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That 2nd half on 23:46 - Jan 15 with 1144 viewsReslovenSwan1

That 2nd half on 22:18 - Jan 15 by Sirjohnalot

I think he means to build a team playing great football in the championship and getting promotion.


Getting out of this league will not be easy. Fulham whipping boys in the premier league are strolling it in the Championship. Newcastle even could be in the Championship next season and Norwich are yo yos. Burnley will be strong.

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That 2nd half on 23:48 - Jan 15 with 1142 viewsmagicdaps10

That 2nd half on 23:20 - Jan 15 by Badlands

Outplayed for 15 - 20 minutes, then even for 10 then almost total control.
Heard that even BBC Wales were calling it fantastic football … but good enough for hoofball fans.
We drew because we played football.
[Post edited 15 Jan 2022 23:21]


Of course we played football, what else did we play?

Next thing we will be hearing is that quicker passing is direct football!

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That 2nd half on 04:19 - Jan 16 with 1057 viewsDr_Parnassus

That 2nd half on 21:45 - Jan 15 by ReslovenSwan1

The vision of the club is extremely ambitious. It is to be the Manchester city of the championship. This will take time its obvious. Brendan proved you do not need world beaters to play this way with the likes of Taylor Rangel, Williams, Monk and Tate in the back 5.


Brendan never played this way.

Not even close.

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That 2nd half on 10:33 - Jan 16 with 873 viewsvetchonian

That 2nd half on 23:48 - Jan 15 by magicdaps10

Of course we played football, what else did we play?

Next thing we will be hearing is that quicker passing is direct football!


Roberto and Laudrup played direct football
George Grahams Arsenal in the 80s played passing football as favoured by Martin
Roberto and Laudrup believed in getting the ball forwards and attacking using the ball not just passing for passing sake

In fairness that second half was good let’s see how we do at home over 90 mins

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That 2nd half on 10:39 - Jan 16 with 845 viewsonehunglow

That 2nd half on 10:33 - Jan 16 by vetchonian

Roberto and Laudrup played direct football
George Grahams Arsenal in the 80s played passing football as favoured by Martin
Roberto and Laudrup believed in getting the ball forwards and attacking using the ball not just passing for passing sake

In fairness that second half was good let’s see how we do at home over 90 mins


90 MINS being Key.
None of those manager would be blissfully happy with not winning a game.
It is all about winning.
We didnt .

It was 45 mins of good play;effective play.

We have not had 90 this season.

That is what it is about

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That 2nd half on 10:49 - Jan 16 with 833 viewsmagicdaps10

That 2nd half on 10:33 - Jan 16 by vetchonian

Roberto and Laudrup played direct football
George Grahams Arsenal in the 80s played passing football as favoured by Martin
Roberto and Laudrup believed in getting the ball forwards and attacking using the ball not just passing for passing sake

In fairness that second half was good let’s see how we do at home over 90 mins


Passing the ball in football is key, some waste playing the ball forward where others are patient.....its an art and a mental combination knowing when to pass forward and doing so with an outcome.

At home is going to be very interesting indeed, certain teams will sit back more on our style and this is when an individual bit of class could be the key.... A pass, making room to get a shot off, essentially a creative player in there makes a big difference.

Its not going as smoothly with Martin but it certainly is going as expected with many. One thing I have learned is to be patient and understanding to something that won't happen over night.

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That 2nd half on 10:53 - Jan 16 with 815 viewsDr_Parnassus

That 2nd half on 10:33 - Jan 16 by vetchonian

Roberto and Laudrup played direct football
George Grahams Arsenal in the 80s played passing football as favoured by Martin
Roberto and Laudrup believed in getting the ball forwards and attacking using the ball not just passing for passing sake

In fairness that second half was good let’s see how we do at home over 90 mins


They did, as did Rodgers.

There is some myth that a few have built in their heads that Martinez and Brendan used to have 75% possession and 800 passes a game.

It’s simply not true. They played nothing like we are attempting to at the moment, it’s not even remotely similar despite the intellectually challenged “BuT wE KeEp tHe BaLl” mob.

The key to Roberto’s tiki taka and Rodgers spin on tiki taka was the direct balls. We had nowhere near as much possession, nowhere near as many passes and concentrated on quick incisive passes, if it meant going 40 yards up the field for Dyer to run onto then we would do it, there was no ego trumping the desire to win with either of those managers.

Under Brendan Rodgers we had an average possession percentage of 58%.

It’s not remotely similar.

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That 2nd half on 11:06 - Jan 16 with 812 viewsCatullus

That 2nd half on 21:25 - Jan 15 by builthjack

I said at the start that Russ would need at least a couple of transfer windows to get the players he wants.
My No 2 disagrees though.


He obviously needed a few players but he was never going to get them quickly because we don't have the cash laying around.

It was becoming a concern to me because our previous decent form had slipped alarmingly and we looked very vulnerable, as well as slow paced and even scared.
That second half yesterday was a massive improvement though, now we need to keep pushing on. Don't let standards slip, don't stop being an attacking threat, don't let the attacking intent slip back to doing what is easy.
Our first half yesterday was poor, I don't know what Martin said or did at half time but keep blooming doing it, from the start of games please.

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That 2nd half on 11:08 - Jan 16 with 806 viewsonehunglow

That 2nd half on 11:06 - Jan 16 by Catullus

He obviously needed a few players but he was never going to get them quickly because we don't have the cash laying around.

It was becoming a concern to me because our previous decent form had slipped alarmingly and we looked very vulnerable, as well as slow paced and even scared.
That second half yesterday was a massive improvement though, now we need to keep pushing on. Don't let standards slip, don't stop being an attacking threat, don't let the attacking intent slip back to doing what is easy.
Our first half yesterday was poor, I don't know what Martin said or did at half time but keep blooming doing it, from the start of games please.


He might have been listening to me Cat.
We have the players
We don’t have the crack.IMO

I believe,with right tactics and planning we could get to play offs. We won’t though

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That 2nd half on 11:13 - Jan 16 with 800 viewsmagicdaps10

That 2nd half on 11:08 - Jan 16 by onehunglow

He might have been listening to me Cat.
We have the players
We don’t have the crack.IMO

I believe,with right tactics and planning we could get to play offs. We won’t though


Will tell you one thing that does get me, why we don't play a 4/5/1 or 4/3/3 formation.

I fully see what Martin is trying to implement and I think the play offs were and never going to be realistic this year with such a new set up behind the scenes and on the pitch. I would really hope that as the season goes on and safety becomes more relevant that Martin looks at a different formation as coupled with the style he is playing, next season we could really be that eye opening team with a different formation.

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That 2nd half on 11:15 - Jan 16 with 794 viewsvetchonian

That 2nd half on 11:13 - Jan 16 by magicdaps10

Will tell you one thing that does get me, why we don't play a 4/5/1 or 4/3/3 formation.

I fully see what Martin is trying to implement and I think the play offs were and never going to be realistic this year with such a new set up behind the scenes and on the pitch. I would really hope that as the season goes on and safety becomes more relevant that Martin looks at a different formation as coupled with the style he is playing, next season we could really be that eye opening team with a different formation.


Because Martin is fixed in his thinking I’m afraid

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That 2nd half on 11:21 - Jan 16 with 777 viewsmagicdaps10

That 2nd half on 11:15 - Jan 16 by vetchonian

Because Martin is fixed in his thinking I’m afraid


Possibly, not for me but he certainly looks like he believes in what he is doing.
His plan can certainly produce something special if it clicks, a plan endorsed and praised by Pep.....i certainly wouldn't want to suggest that I know better than Pep 😬😁

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That 2nd half on 11:33 - Jan 16 with 759 viewsCatullus

That 2nd half on 11:21 - Jan 16 by magicdaps10

Possibly, not for me but he certainly looks like he believes in what he is doing.
His plan can certainly produce something special if it clicks, a plan endorsed and praised by Pep.....i certainly wouldn't want to suggest that I know better than Pep 😬😁


The big difference is though, Pep has almost unlimited funds to go and get players who can play as he wants from the off. We don't have that luxury so we have to be a bit more pragmatic at times.
That's why our determination to play keep ball even in our own area worries me, we have given away far too many soft goals already this season.

Right now it looks like we're losing Bidwell and already lost Laird, a different formation just makes sense to me. Why not try a 4-2-3-1, why not try Smith and Grimes as CDM's and put Ntcham, Pato and Downes into AM roles? Maybe even try a 3-2-3-2 with Piroe AND Obafemi or whoever we sign, up front? I don't think we currently have the players for the formation Martin favours.

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That 2nd half on 11:47 - Jan 16 with 739 viewsvetchonian

That 2nd half on 11:33 - Jan 16 by Catullus

The big difference is though, Pep has almost unlimited funds to go and get players who can play as he wants from the off. We don't have that luxury so we have to be a bit more pragmatic at times.
That's why our determination to play keep ball even in our own area worries me, we have given away far too many soft goals already this season.

Right now it looks like we're losing Bidwell and already lost Laird, a different formation just makes sense to me. Why not try a 4-2-3-1, why not try Smith and Grimes as CDM's and put Ntcham, Pato and Downes into AM roles? Maybe even try a 3-2-3-2 with Piroe AND Obafemi or whoever we sign, up front? I don't think we currently have the players for the formation Martin favours.


This player thing perplexes me. We were a pl club we were recruiting players to fit into our style which was a footballing one until HJ let Monk take the reins
We have an academy which produced players playing the Swansea way yet Martin has to go out and bring in suitable players

I don’t get it… Martinez,Rodger’s and Laudrup got good football from what they had some of whom did not have the pedigree Martin inherited

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That 2nd half on 11:54 - Jan 16 with 719 viewsKeithHaynes

That 2nd half on 11:33 - Jan 16 by Catullus

The big difference is though, Pep has almost unlimited funds to go and get players who can play as he wants from the off. We don't have that luxury so we have to be a bit more pragmatic at times.
That's why our determination to play keep ball even in our own area worries me, we have given away far too many soft goals already this season.

Right now it looks like we're losing Bidwell and already lost Laird, a different formation just makes sense to me. Why not try a 4-2-3-1, why not try Smith and Grimes as CDM's and put Ntcham, Pato and Downes into AM roles? Maybe even try a 3-2-3-2 with Piroe AND Obafemi or whoever we sign, up front? I don't think we currently have the players for the formation Martin favours.


I’m certain in the next two weeks we will.

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That 2nd half on 12:12 - Jan 16 with 700 viewsjasper_T

Every fan thinks their club is just a few players short of being a great side. We've certainly been thinking it for years. We could bring in a couple more this window, and we'd still think the same thing.
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