| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round 11:25 - Jul 15 with 2751 views | SwansIndependent |
 Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round 15th Jul 2022 11:23His name has come up time and time again, and each time the answer is ‘No firm bids’ have been made. After a dramatically good start to his football career he found life and playing football hard to combine. And the minute he does, and just after one season in the championship there’s a desire to put it all on the line again.  0
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 11:36 - Jul 15 with 1846 views | STID2017 |
Good article and all of it true.
However ultimately Piroe has he confidence in himself to believe he can produce the goods at a higher level.
That will be the driving force behind a transfer.
I really hope he doesn't go but ultimately if he continues as he left off then even £20 million will be too cheap.
Personally I think he will make it in the PL.
My heart wants it to be with us, my head says he will be pulling on a different shirt in August or September |  |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 11:51 - Jul 15 with 1782 views | AndyCole |
It's pretty obvious to even the staunchest Martinistas that Joel has his sights set on leaving, playing at the highest level and working with Cooper.
After all it's why he was so keen to come to Swansea.
And no matter how it's dressed, the initial humongous rejection by Martin, the public humiliation, stripping Joel of the #9 jersey, training away from the squad on the beach with his dad and mate, will likely come back and bite.
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:03 - Jul 15 with 1761 views | onehunglow |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 11:51 - Jul 15 by AndyCole |
It's pretty obvious to even the staunchest Martinistas that Joel has his sights set on leaving, playing at the highest level and working with Cooper.
After all it's why he was so keen to come to Swansea.
And no matter how it's dressed, the initial humongous rejection by Martin, the public humiliation, stripping Joel of the #9 jersey, training away from the squad on the beach with his dad and mate, will likely come back and bite.
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I read Joel was happy. Russ said
Selling him would mean we would then have no chance at all of scoring and winning games.
Piroe has gotten us a lead only for our excuse for a keeper to Chuck away.
The very first sale should be that of Fisher
That he is stick between the sticks says all one needs to know about our coach.
Selling Piroe effectively means we are screwed [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 12:05]
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:06 - Jul 15 with 1750 views | vetchonian |
Piroe showed last season he has an eye for the goal and is a great finisher with both feet often those goals were scored with one touch.
Its amazing how the article hints that desppite one seasons success of scoring consitently in the champioship willl not gaurantee success in the PL...of course we have seen this with the llikes of McBurnie in the past ....but I think Piroe does have that bit extra.
Funny though it seems the experts on here seem to beleive Piroe is set for failure at a higher level despite what we witnessed last season and already in thies seasons friendlies yet Darling is already being tipped as a PL prospect based on an OK season in Lg1 and his appearnaces againt lower opposotion in friendlies.... | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:11 - Jul 15 with 1739 views | KeithHaynes |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:06 - Jul 15 by vetchonian |
Piroe showed last season he has an eye for the goal and is a great finisher with both feet often those goals were scored with one touch.
Its amazing how the article hints that desppite one seasons success of scoring consitently in the champioship willl not gaurantee success in the PL...of course we have seen this with the llikes of McBurnie in the past ....but I think Piroe does have that bit extra.
Funny though it seems the experts on here seem to beleive Piroe is set for failure at a higher level despite what we witnessed last season and already in thies seasons friendlies yet Darling is already being tipped as a PL prospect based on an OK season in Lg1 and his appearnaces againt lower opposotion in friendlies.... |
I can’t see piroe being an outright failure but there’s a huge gamble for all. |  |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:34 - Jul 15 with 1687 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Piroe has pedigree and does the right thing at the rif ght time having worked with excellent coaches and a famous Dutch striker at PSV. He will do well at any footballing side but is not a lower league target man for a direct team.
Swansea if offered £20m will sell and bring in Parrott on loan to replace him. The £20m will give Swansea funds to re invest on further lower league talent Martin and his staff are aware of. It is a buyers market at the lower levels. Portsmouth are f giving Jaydon Reid another go released by Swansea a few seasons back. A little cash will go a long way. Darling £1.5m. Downes £1.5m.
It could also pay off the CLN debt. I like to think this will not happen but it has to be considered possible. |  |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:35 - Jul 15 with 1689 views | vetchonian |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:11 - Jul 15 by KeithHaynes |
I can’t see piroe being an outright failure but there’s a huge gamble for all. |
Any transfer in or out is often a huge gamble I agree
Selling Piroe for us is a gamble especially if we are not as successful in replacing his goals, not selling despite a "decnet" offer might mean us ending up with a very unhappy player...
Like many others before him he may find the stup up to the PL a step too far but theats his gamble along with the contract and riches he gains....for signing he will at least get 2 seasons at PL wages....
Personally I think he will still be here at the end of the window but be gone come January | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:51 - Jul 15 with 1639 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:35 - Jul 15 by vetchonian |
Any transfer in or out is often a huge gamble I agree
Selling Piroe for us is a gamble especially if we are not as successful in replacing his goals, not selling despite a "decnet" offer might mean us ending up with a very unhappy player...
Like many others before him he may find the stup up to the PL a step too far but theats his gamble along with the contract and riches he gains....for signing he will at least get 2 seasons at PL wages....
Personally I think he will still be here at the end of the window but be gone come January |
£20m for McBurney was an exceptional bit of business. He is going into the last year of his deal at Sheff Utd and probably they would take £2m to get him off the books. He has run into one problem with the law after another and shows no signs of maturing. Too risky to bring him back unfortunately. Perhaps he is misunderstood like Downes was at Ipswich.
Brewster is another they could let go. Piroe out Brewster in plus £10m?. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 13:58 - Jul 15 with 1525 views | Badlands |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 11:51 - Jul 15 by AndyCole |
It's pretty obvious to even the staunchest Martinistas that Joel has his sights set on leaving, playing at the highest level and working with Cooper.
After all it's why he was so keen to come to Swansea.
And no matter how it's dressed, the initial humongous rejection by Martin, the public humiliation, stripping Joel of the #9 jersey, training away from the squad on the beach with his dad and mate, will likely come back and bite.
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Absolutely, because no one has ever left Swansea for higher pay or a higher leave every before.
If Forest offer more than Everton he'll go there. If Brighton offer more than Forest he's heading to the South Coast.
Coopralites should follow Forest if they can’t get over their failed manager's leaving. |  |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 14:01 - Jul 15 with 1515 views | KeithHaynes |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 13:58 - Jul 15 by Badlands |
Absolutely, because no one has ever left Swansea for higher pay or a higher leave every before.
If Forest offer more than Everton he'll go there. If Brighton offer more than Forest he's heading to the South Coast.
Coopralites should follow Forest if they can’t get over their failed manager's leaving. |
I can see Forest doing very well in their first season in the EPL.
As Wolves to an extent and Leeds are finding out the next season is hard and it gets harder. Makes the swans achievements exceptional. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 14:03 - Jul 15 with 1509 views | Whiterockin |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:51 - Jul 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
£20m for McBurney was an exceptional bit of business. He is going into the last year of his deal at Sheff Utd and probably they would take £2m to get him off the books. He has run into one problem with the law after another and shows no signs of maturing. Too risky to bring him back unfortunately. Perhaps he is misunderstood like Downes was at Ipswich.
Brewster is another they could let go. Piroe out Brewster in plus £10m?. |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:12 - Jul 15 with 1415 views | KeithHaynes |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 14:03 - Jul 15 by Whiterockin |
Would Brewster work within our salary cap? |
I recall someone saying he was on £32k a week when he signed. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:26 - Jul 15 with 1399 views | Catullus |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:06 - Jul 15 by vetchonian |
Piroe showed last season he has an eye for the goal and is a great finisher with both feet often those goals were scored with one touch.
Its amazing how the article hints that desppite one seasons success of scoring consitently in the champioship willl not gaurantee success in the PL...of course we have seen this with the llikes of McBurnie in the past ....but I think Piroe does have that bit extra.
Funny though it seems the experts on here seem to beleive Piroe is set for failure at a higher level despite what we witnessed last season and already in thies seasons friendlies yet Darling is already being tipped as a PL prospect based on an OK season in Lg1 and his appearnaces againt lower opposotion in friendlies.... |
Is Piroe as good as Mitrovic? To succedd in the EPL he has to be better.
Personally speaking, it may be that this window is the best time to sell, what if Piroe flops this season? If we got even 15 million for him now couldn't we build the front line around Obafemi? Then we'd have spare money and we could look for the right striker to come in. OK we'd have to rely on Whittaker and Joseph for back up (depending who leaves) but if Piroe went we wouldn't have to sell again all season.
I look back to Michu, we turned down a big bid for him and then he was injured and that was it, we lost him anyway because his ankles were kanckered. I never really forgave Laudrup for palying him when injured AND not stopping Michu's hoarding kicking shenanigans, I'm sure it added to his problems.
Then theres Dan J and Ollie McB, ultinately didnt selling prove to be the best thing? They showed promise but neither has really lived up to expectations. Meanwhile we pocketed a load of cash to keep us stable.
Another aspect is, if we dont sell, if we got an offer of 15 million and refused it, how will Piroe react?
Glad I'm not in charge. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:28 - Jul 15 with 1398 views | STID2017 |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 11:51 - Jul 15 by AndyCole |
It's pretty obvious to even the staunchest Martinistas that Joel has his sights set on leaving, playing at the highest level and working with Cooper.
After all it's why he was so keen to come to Swansea.
And no matter how it's dressed, the initial humongous rejection by Martin, the public humiliation, stripping Joel of the #9 jersey, training away from the squad on the beach with his dad and mate, will likely come back and bite.
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Of course if he can leave and play in the EPL he will.
However Forest haven't got £20 plus million to buy him.
Furthermore he won't care who his manager is s long as he gets his opportunity to shine in the EPL.
Also as he never played for Cooper, hardly built an affiliation to him ?
Time to let Cooper go AC | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:30 - Jul 15 with 1394 views | Catullus |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:28 - Jul 15 by STID2017 |
Of course if he can leave and play in the EPL he will.
However Forest haven't got £20 plus million to buy him.
Furthermore he won't care who his manager is s long as he gets his opportunity to shine in the EPL.
Also as he never played for Cooper, hardly built an affiliation to him ?
Time to let Cooper go AC |
Forest have spent a load mind, 17 million on Neco wasn't it? | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:33 - Jul 15 with 1391 views | vetchonian |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:26 - Jul 15 by Catullus |
Is Piroe as good as Mitrovic? To succedd in the EPL he has to be better.
Personally speaking, it may be that this window is the best time to sell, what if Piroe flops this season? If we got even 15 million for him now couldn't we build the front line around Obafemi? Then we'd have spare money and we could look for the right striker to come in. OK we'd have to rely on Whittaker and Joseph for back up (depending who leaves) but if Piroe went we wouldn't have to sell again all season.
I look back to Michu, we turned down a big bid for him and then he was injured and that was it, we lost him anyway because his ankles were kanckered. I never really forgave Laudrup for palying him when injured AND not stopping Michu's hoarding kicking shenanigans, I'm sure it added to his problems.
Then theres Dan J and Ollie McB, ultinately didnt selling prove to be the best thing? They showed promise but neither has really lived up to expectations. Meanwhile we pocketed a load of cash to keep us stable.
Another aspect is, if we dont sell, if we got an offer of 15 million and refused it, how will Piroe react?
Glad I'm not in charge. |
I agree that this window would be the best in which for us to sell and hopefully our recruitment team have a replacement marked.
I mentioned January as I believe clubs who may be interested may be waiting to see if he continues during this season as he did last then pounce in January.
As Keith has said its a big gamble which ever..but I worry how we will replace his goals without which we would have struggled last season | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:36 - Jul 15 with 1391 views | STID2017 |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:30 - Jul 15 by Catullus |
Forest have spent a load mind, 17 million on Neco wasn't it? |
I agree, but cannot see them spending £20 million (or anywhere near ) on Piroe.
£10 million maybe | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 18:36 - Jul 15 with 1308 views | KeithHaynes |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:36 - Jul 15 by STID2017 |
I agree, but cannot see them spending £20 million (or anywhere near ) on Piroe.
£10 million maybe |
They won’t get him for that. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 19:12 - Jul 15 with 1272 views | Catullus |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:36 - Jul 15 by STID2017 |
I agree, but cannot see them spending £20 million (or anywhere near ) on Piroe.
£10 million maybe |
Nor me, not on Piroe though they may try a 10 bid with a larger percentage sell on. Depends if Cooper rates him and wants him I guess.
My personal desire is that no one comes close to whatever we will actually sell him for and he stays all season, him and Oba shooting us to promotion! We can come straight back down, I don't care, as long as we spend the money wisely to build the club. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 19:20 - Jul 15 with 1264 views | KeithHaynes |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 19:12 - Jul 15 by Catullus |
Nor me, not on Piroe though they may try a 10 bid with a larger percentage sell on. Depends if Cooper rates him and wants him I guess.
My personal desire is that no one comes close to whatever we will actually sell him for and he stays all season, him and Oba shooting us to promotion! We can come straight back down, I don't care, as long as we spend the money wisely to build the club. |
I would imagine the epl would be a hard shout for RM, but getting there relies upon Piroe, but then again two quality strikers from an equal or lower level ?
No way will we let him go for less than 15 and then add ons on top. | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:02 - Jul 15 with 1176 views | Flashberryjack |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 19:12 - Jul 15 by Catullus |
Nor me, not on Piroe though they may try a 10 bid with a larger percentage sell on. Depends if Cooper rates him and wants him I guess.
My personal desire is that no one comes close to whatever we will actually sell him for and he stays all season, him and Oba shooting us to promotion! We can come straight back down, I don't care, as long as we spend the money wisely to build the club. |
Spot on. |  |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:28 - Jul 15 with 1139 views | AndyCole |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 12:03 - Jul 15 by onehunglow |
I read Joel was happy. Russ said
Selling him would mean we would then have no chance at all of scoring and winning games.
Piroe has gotten us a lead only for our excuse for a keeper to Chuck away.
The very first sale should be that of Fisher
That he is stick between the sticks says all one needs to know about our coach.
Selling Piroe effectively means we are screwed [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 12:05]
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Fortunately for us he's happy-go-lucky, chilled out. Massively supported by his dad who constantly has a close watching brief.
Focused on the job in hand, a proper pro always with a smile on his face (apart from when Martin demoted him and stripped him of the #9 jersey).
Re Fish - he's thriving with his bestie Darling, alongside. No longer looks a Fish out of water, flapping needlessly. The Fish is transformed - wait 'til you see.......
Agreed, selling Joel will be Martin's death knell (despite Joel being Coops' acquisition, not Martin's).
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:33 - Jul 15 with 1132 views | Whiterockin |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:28 - Jul 15 by AndyCole |
Fortunately for us he's happy-go-lucky, chilled out. Massively supported by his dad who constantly has a close watching brief.
Focused on the job in hand, a proper pro always with a smile on his face (apart from when Martin demoted him and stripped him of the #9 jersey).
Re Fish - he's thriving with his bestie Darling, alongside. No longer looks a Fish out of water, flapping needlessly. The Fish is transformed - wait 'til you see.......
Agreed, selling Joel will be Martin's death knell (despite Joel being Coops' acquisition, not Martin's).
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Coops' didn't turn him into a £20M player. | | | |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:45 - Jul 15 with 1101 views | AndyCole |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:33 - Jul 15 by Whiterockin |
Coops' didn't turn him into a £20M player. |
Coops' what didn't turn him into a £20m player ? | |
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| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 21:47 - Jul 15 with 1097 views | jasper_T |
| Selling Joel Piroe will ensure problems all round on 15:26 - Jul 15 by Catullus |
Is Piroe as good as Mitrovic? To succedd in the EPL he has to be better.
Personally speaking, it may be that this window is the best time to sell, what if Piroe flops this season? If we got even 15 million for him now couldn't we build the front line around Obafemi? Then we'd have spare money and we could look for the right striker to come in. OK we'd have to rely on Whittaker and Joseph for back up (depending who leaves) but if Piroe went we wouldn't have to sell again all season.
I look back to Michu, we turned down a big bid for him and then he was injured and that was it, we lost him anyway because his ankles were kanckered. I never really forgave Laudrup for palying him when injured AND not stopping Michu's hoarding kicking shenanigans, I'm sure it added to his problems.
Then theres Dan J and Ollie McB, ultinately didnt selling prove to be the best thing? They showed promise but neither has really lived up to expectations. Meanwhile we pocketed a load of cash to keep us stable.
Another aspect is, if we dont sell, if we got an offer of 15 million and refused it, how will Piroe react?
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Michu had ankle issues before we ever signed him. Was always a ticking time bomb.
Man Utd turned a profit on DJ, not sure it's fair to suggest he didn't live up to expectations. Who expected him to go there and be a superstar? Most were shocked he played as much as he did. Then they bought a Sancho and Ronaldo. £15m plus clauses was them shopping in the budget aisle even before that. | | | |
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