| Is the patience finally paying off!? 22:02 - Oct 5 with 9856 views | magicdaps10 |
Genuine question, what do you all think?
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:19 - Oct 5 with 2861 views | raynor94 |
Of course it is, I've never understood some of the criticism Martin has received on here |  |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:23 - Oct 5 with 2842 views | builthjack |
I haven’t criticised Martin yet.
Most of the criticism came from the ones who have left the site, and OHL . |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:26 - Oct 5 with 2806 views | Dr_Winston |
If we were still doing the same things we did last season then perhaps that claim could be made. As there are obvious changes to the way we do things, especially since Benda came back in then perhaps it's more accurate to say lessons might finally have been learned. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:26 - Oct 5 with 2812 views | STID2017 |
Definetly been a roller coaster ride but feel we are getting there.
Can't wait for Saturday |  |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:28 - Oct 5 with 2799 views | Kilkennyjack |
It looks like and the results suggest that us the case.
We can beat anyone on our day.
Confidence us high.
We have a proper keeper.
However every game in this league is a battle until the final whistle. |  |
| Beware of the Risen People
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:29 - Oct 5 with 2798 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
It looks that way
The establishing of Benda as first choice has been a huge part of our more steely demeanour and something I didn’t think Martin would do.
Clearly he has also brought a lot of positives to our game and how we are now playing - getting the blend right has been the issue. Hopefully this continues as I’ve no doubt we have good enough players and a stronger bench than I thought |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:30 - Oct 5 with 2780 views | onehunglow |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:23 - Oct 5 by builthjack |
I haven’t criticised Martin yet.
Most of the criticism came from the ones who have left the site, and OHL . |
Yes OHL.
You the leader now .
You want me gone
Just forking do it or start arguing |  |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:33 - Oct 5 with 2779 views | KeithHaynes |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:19 - Oct 5 by raynor94 |
Of course it is, I've never understood some of the criticism Martin has received on here |
We as a site could see the end game, it may not even pay off now, but the football is exquisite at times, and what really saddens me is that still we have fans ? Who want to cause issues even after another fantastic win away from home.
Martin will be a top manager in the premier league one day, like Sousa, Martinez, Rodgers, Largo, Cooper, there may be others.
Those lot down the road are very very very SECOND.
Shit I forgot Potter whose team beat AC Milan tonight.
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:36 - Oct 5 with 2771 views | magicdaps10 |
Personally I don't think anything has been achieved but I think it proves also that it would have been wrong to sack Martin when many were calling for it.
Football changes quickly and stability is very important in regards to turning the wrong way.......things will evolve and things will improve with stability and this is what we are seeing with Martinball.
Big game Saturday in front of our home fans.....this will ve the real test to see where we really are.
Win and and the wings are fully open
Draw and we are in a good place
Lose and there needs to be a real work on mentality. | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:39 - Oct 5 with 2735 views | onehunglow |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:36 - Oct 5 by magicdaps10 |
Personally I don't think anything has been achieved but I think it proves also that it would have been wrong to sack Martin when many were calling for it.
Football changes quickly and stability is very important in regards to turning the wrong way.......things will evolve and things will improve with stability and this is what we are seeing with Martinball.
Big game Saturday in front of our home fans.....this will ve the real test to see where we really are.
Win and and the wings are fully open
Draw and we are in a good place
Lose and there needs to be a real work on mentality. |
Nothing has been achieved whatsoever.
I checked
It’s true | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:39 - Oct 5 with 2740 views | JJJack |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:29 - Oct 5 by PatchesOHoulihan |
It looks that way
The establishing of Benda as first choice has been a huge part of our more steely demeanour and something I didn’t think Martin would do.
Clearly he has also brought a lot of positives to our game and how we are now playing - getting the blend right has been the issue. Hopefully this continues as I’ve no doubt we have good enough players and a stronger bench than I thought |
Agreed on Benda. He's making a huge difference. |  | | |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:41 - Oct 5 with 2719 views | onehunglow |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:39 - Oct 5 by JJJack |
Agreed on Benda. He's making a huge difference. |
Benda,the guy replaced by Fisher.
Just to add a little context | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:42 - Oct 5 with 2720 views | builthjack |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:30 - Oct 5 by onehunglow |
Yes OHL.
You the leader now .
You want me gone
Just forking do it or start arguing |
Have another drink | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:42 - Oct 5 with 2720 views | STID2017 |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:33 - Oct 5 by KeithHaynes |
We as a site could see the end game, it may not even pay off now, but the football is exquisite at times, and what really saddens me is that still we have fans ? Who want to cause issues even after another fantastic win away from home.
Martin will be a top manager in the premier league one day, like Sousa, Martinez, Rodgers, Largo, Cooper, there may be others.
Those lot down the road are very very very SECOND.
Shit I forgot Potter whose team beat AC Milan tonight.
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Who is Largo ?  | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:43 - Oct 5 with 2709 views | STID2017 |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:39 - Oct 5 by onehunglow |
Nothing has been achieved whatsoever.
I checked
It’s true |
We still bottom three then ?
Thought not | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:43 - Oct 5 with 2709 views | raynor94 |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:39 - Oct 5 by onehunglow |
Nothing has been achieved whatsoever.
I checked
It’s true |
Celebrate a good few days, win Saturday and we are on the march | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:47 - Oct 5 with 2687 views | onehunglow |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:43 - Oct 5 by STID2017 |
We still bottom three then ?
Thought not |
Tonight I will slit my throat
Happy | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:48 - Oct 5 with 2687 views | NotLoyal |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:42 - Oct 5 by STID2017 |
Who is Largo ? |
0% Wolves manager 😂 ( apologies for the humour ) |  |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:48 - Oct 5 with 2680 views | STID2017 |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:41 - Oct 5 by onehunglow |
Benda,the guy replaced by Fisher.
Just to add a little context |
RM madevthe decision to bring in Fisher to replace whoever was in goals at the time. His "bad" as the kids say.
RM was the one who brought Benda in to replace Fisher. Credit to him for that | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:56 - Oct 5 with 2643 views | NotLoyal |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:41 - Oct 5 by onehunglow |
Benda,the guy replaced by Fisher.
Just to add a little context |
By the Swansea manager who stated the reasons why, and gave him all the credit. | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 23:02 - Oct 5 with 2614 views | STID2017 |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 22:48 - Oct 5 by NotLoyal |
0% Wolves manager 😂 ( apologies for the humour ) |
Forgot about him.
Of course.
Old age don't come alone | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 23:10 - Oct 5 with 2574 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Patience with what?
Patience was being called for with the old Martin-ball style when many of us were pointing out doesn’t work, and we need a more sensible approach.
We said we need to slash the possession numbers, slash the pass count number and add in more long balls, end the “short at all costs mantra” and stop the messing around between the keeper and defence.
We were having 75% possession, 800 passes and 5% long balls regularly. It was ludicrous and no amount of patience would matter - it was flawed.
There was a marked change from Stoke onwards where his job was seriously under threat. He has swallowed his pride finally and changed to what we were calling for… shock horror results have improved.
Here are the stats of our games since he clearly changed the style (as noted by most now).
Watford 2-1 win.
51% possession
442 passes
11% long balls
WBA 3-2 win
56% possession
458 passes
13% long balls
Hull 3-0 win
61% possession
593 passes
6% long balls
Sheff Utd 0-1 loss
49% possession
470 passes
12% long balls
QPR 1-0 win
46% possession
430 passes
17% long balls (?!)
Stoke 1-1 draw
52% possession
428 passes
14% long balls
Average possession: 52.5%
Average pass count: 460
Average long balls: 11%
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Boro 2-1 loss
61% possession
551 passes
9% long balls
Luton 2-0 loss
75% possession
632 passes
8% long balls
Millwall 2-2 draw
61%
532 passes
7% long balls
Blackpool 1-0
64% possession
525 passes
9% long balls
Blackburn 3-0 loss
71% possession
708 passes
6% long balls
Rotherham 1-1 draw
74% possession
589 passes
7% long balls
Average possession: 67.5%
Average pass count: 590
Average long balls: 7.5%
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The difference is stark.
Pass count down by 22%
Possession down by 22%
Long balls up by 50%
He is doing what he should have done 12 months ago.
As noted. |  |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 23:13 - Oct 5 with 2572 views | NotLoyal |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 23:10 - Oct 5 by Dr_Parnassus |
Patience with what?
Patience was being called for with the old Martin-ball style when many of us were pointing out doesn’t work, and we need a more sensible approach.
We said we need to slash the possession numbers, slash the pass count number and add in more long balls, end the “short at all costs mantra” and stop the messing around between the keeper and defence.
We were having 75% possession, 800 passes and 5% long balls regularly. It was ludicrous and no amount of patience would matter - it was flawed.
There was a marked change from Stoke onwards where his job was seriously under threat. He has swallowed his pride finally and changed to what we were calling for… shock horror results have improved.
Here are the stats of our games since he clearly changed the style (as noted by most now).
Watford 2-1 win.
51% possession
442 passes
11% long balls
WBA 3-2 win
56% possession
458 passes
13% long balls
Hull 3-0 win
61% possession
593 passes
6% long balls
Sheff Utd 0-1 loss
49% possession
470 passes
12% long balls
QPR 1-0 win
46% possession
430 passes
17% long balls (?!)
Stoke 1-1 draw
52% possession
428 passes
14% long balls
Average possession: 52.5%
Average pass count: 460
Average long balls: 11%
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Boro 2-1 loss
61% possession
551 passes
9% long balls
Luton 2-0 loss
75% possession
632 passes
8% long balls
Millwall 2-2 draw
61%
532 passes
7% long balls
Blackpool 1-0
64% possession
525 passes
9% long balls
Blackburn 3-0 loss
71% possession
708 passes
6% long balls
Rotherham 1-1 draw
74% possession
589 passes
7% long balls
Average possession: 67.5%
Average pass count: 590
Average long balls: 7.5%
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The difference is stark.
Pass count down by 22%
Possession down by 22%
Long balls up by 50%
He is doing what he should have done 12 months ago.
As noted. |
Nice to see you back 👠| |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 23:54 - Oct 5 with 2524 views | STID2017 |
Patience with Martin is definitely paying off.
Roll on Saturday | |
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| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 00:06 - Oct 6 with 2497 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is the patience finally paying off!? on 23:54 - Oct 5 by STID2017 |
Patience with Martin is definitely paying off.
Roll on Saturday |
You advocated for his departure prior to the change in style, didn’t you? | |
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