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Is the patience finally paying off!? 22:02 - Oct 5 with 10681 viewsmagicdaps10

Genuine question, what do you all think?


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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 11:33 - Oct 9 with 1104 viewsDr_Parnassus

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 11:30 - Oct 9 by jack247

Well nobody knows if we’ll keep playing like this. Nobody really foresaw the change in ideology 6 weeks ago. I’d guess most of us hope we do.

I’m more than happy to ignore the last 12 months. The important thing is, he seems to have found an effective way of playing early enough in the season that we’ve worked our way to three points off the top.

If we do revert to 75% possession and kamikaze defending, it will be beyond idiotic and he’ll deserve all the abuse he gets. It would be worse now he’s found something that works.


That’s my point, until there is a definitive statement regarding it then none of us really know what he’s thinking with regards to it.

My praise will always come with trepidation that we could revert back until either he comes out and talks about it or he builds up enough trust in me.

At the moment I’m just enjoying it while it lasts, how long that will be I have no idea. As stated, there has been false dawns last season where we got excellent results playing sensibly and then it was inexplicably scrapped.

Fingers crossed it never comes.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 11:34 - Oct 9 with 1114 viewsonehunglow

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 11:30 - Oct 9 by jack247

Well nobody knows if we’ll keep playing like this. Nobody really foresaw the change in ideology 6 weeks ago. I’d guess most of us hope we do.

I’m more than happy to ignore the last 12 months. The important thing is, he seems to have found an effective way of playing early enough in the season that we’ve worked our way to three points off the top.

If we do revert to 75% possession and kamikaze defending, it will be beyond idiotic and he’ll deserve all the abuse he gets. It would be worse now he’s found something that works.


Hard to argue with any of that

If we were to beat Burnley then I will be getting moist

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:21 - Oct 9 with 1071 viewsmagicdaps10

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 10:41 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

as one of Martin's biggest critics I will now also offer him praise for taking the right road and backing down from his persistence of trying to play in a way that had never been successful and was dragging us down.


We have had 4 great results since the obvious change and long may it continue.
it doesnt mean we have become a hoofball team just that we now ate more purposeful with the ball.
Well done Russ and the team


Well done for giving him the praise he deserves......getting people on side is very difficult on times and it's nice to see people just acknowledge that a thought or opinion has changed.

For us to progress then it really helps that all are on side and supportive of the cause.

PS Not noticed if you replied but I mentioned Nigel Rees as the player who put the cross in for Cardiff in that victory against Real Madrid.
He was a cracking coach for a few years in the Welsh league.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:26 - Oct 9 with 1057 viewsDr_Parnassus

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:21 - Oct 9 by magicdaps10

Well done for giving him the praise he deserves......getting people on side is very difficult on times and it's nice to see people just acknowledge that a thought or opinion has changed.

For us to progress then it really helps that all are on side and supportive of the cause.

PS Not noticed if you replied but I mentioned Nigel Rees as the player who put the cross in for Cardiff in that victory against Real Madrid.
He was a cracking coach for a few years in the Welsh league.


And well done to you too for recognising that the likes of Vetch were spot on with the criticisms and observations made, to the point Russ has now changed it to exactly mirror them despite the protestations from many on here at the time (and still to this day).

I see you have also now accepted the tactics have changed, something you were reluctant to do before so that’s a big step for the board because hopefully productive discussions can be had now on it.

Good man.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:29 - Oct 9 with 1058 viewsSirjohnalot

Let's just all agree please, it does not matter who was right who was wrong ('who killed who' to quote Monty Python) we are playing well. That's all that is important.
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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:46 - Oct 9 with 1031 viewsKeithHaynes

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:29 - Oct 9 by Sirjohnalot

Let's just all agree please, it does not matter who was right who was wrong ('who killed who' to quote Monty Python) we are playing well. That's all that is important.


Is the patience really paying off though John 💁 😂

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:49 - Oct 9 with 1024 viewsmagicdaps10

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:46 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Is the patience really paying off though John 💁 😂


Too much patience or a gluten for punishment!? 🙈😂

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:51 - Oct 9 with 1019 viewsKeithHaynes

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:49 - Oct 9 by magicdaps10

Too much patience or a gluten for punishment!? 🙈😂


Gluten free every Monday and Wednesday mate 🤣

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 14:16 - Oct 9 with 995 viewsmagicdaps10

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:51 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Gluten free every Monday and Wednesday mate 🤣


😂

I will keep those days earmarked then and use the other days to work on my predictive text 😂😂

That will learn me for not reading back on my posts 🤣

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 15:06 - Oct 9 with 954 viewsWitneyjack

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 11:31 - Oct 9 by onehunglow

That s what makes you a top poster

Speak as you find and stand by every word.
If wrong,then so what


I've heard Vetchonian called many things, but top poster? Steady on!!
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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:16 - Oct 9 with 891 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 15:06 - Oct 9 by Witneyjack

I've heard Vetchonian called many things, but top poster? Steady on!!
[Post edited 9 Oct 2022 15:07]


What a recommendation from OHL

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:18 - Oct 9 with 885 viewsKeithHaynes

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:16 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

What a recommendation from OHL


He’s in lanzarote and if the temperature there is anything like here then a few cold ones will be on the bar.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:18 - Oct 9 with 884 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:21 - Oct 9 by magicdaps10

Well done for giving him the praise he deserves......getting people on side is very difficult on times and it's nice to see people just acknowledge that a thought or opinion has changed.

For us to progress then it really helps that all are on side and supportive of the cause.

PS Not noticed if you replied but I mentioned Nigel Rees as the player who put the cross in for Cardiff in that victory against Real Madrid.
He was a cracking coach for a few years in the Welsh league.


He gets praise fromm me now because he has changed tack....he still deserves criticism for his previous approach.

Yes Nigel Rees he was also part of our School of Excellence and Acadamy coaching set up at one time,

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:31 - Oct 9 with 857 viewsKeithHaynes

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:18 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

He gets praise fromm me now because he has changed tack....he still deserves criticism for his previous approach.

Yes Nigel Rees he was also part of our School of Excellence and Acadamy coaching set up at one time,


Learning as he goes along and admitting it is a true quality though vetch.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:41 - Oct 9 with 831 viewsmagicdaps10

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:18 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

He gets praise fromm me now because he has changed tack....he still deserves criticism for his previous approach.

Yes Nigel Rees he was also part of our School of Excellence and Acadamy coaching set up at one time,


Oh come on Vetch!

Imagine if all our wives had that school of thought and we would be in big trouble.

Never hold a grudge and don't be afraid to say that you are wrong without looking for a 'but' and that's a good recipe for being a decent soul.

Real football man is Nigel and has given a lot back to the game.....now he would only have a lot of praise for Martin and certainly knows the game with the experiences of what a young boss goes through.

Luckily we didn't sack Martin when people were calling for it....top manager in the making we have on our hands.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:57 - Oct 9 with 804 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:31 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Learning as he goes along and admitting it is a true quality though vetch.


IT is Keith but it took him a long time to work out things were nt working under his original plan.

But it seems the penny has dropped...Hopefully he will continue and learn as we all are very day.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 17:16 - Oct 9 with 780 viewsKeithHaynes

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:57 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

IT is Keith but it took him a long time to work out things were nt working under his original plan.

But it seems the penny has dropped...Hopefully he will continue and learn as we all are very day.


He ain’t no John Toshack, but then thankfully he ain’t no John Hollins either.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:00 - Oct 9 with 765 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 17:16 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

He ain’t no John Toshack, but then thankfully he ain’t no John Hollins either.


Some on here thought he was Pep

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:14 - Oct 9 with 739 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 16:41 - Oct 9 by magicdaps10

Oh come on Vetch!

Imagine if all our wives had that school of thought and we would be in big trouble.

Never hold a grudge and don't be afraid to say that you are wrong without looking for a 'but' and that's a good recipe for being a decent soul.

Real football man is Nigel and has given a lot back to the game.....now he would only have a lot of praise for Martin and certainly knows the game with the experiences of what a young boss goes through.

Luckily we didn't sack Martin when people were calling for it....top manager in the making we have on our hands.


I wasnt wrong though daps I am praising him now as he has changed the style of play...

We are playing a different way to the Martinball we saw last season and again at the start of this...Had he continued with his preferred way he would be sacked by now!

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:26 - Oct 9 with 730 viewsKeithHaynes

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:14 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

I wasnt wrong though daps I am praising him now as he has changed the style of play...

We are playing a different way to the Martinball we saw last season and again at the start of this...Had he continued with his preferred way he would be sacked by now!


Maybe it’s not called Martinball anymore ?

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:46 - Oct 9 with 705 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:26 - Oct 9 by KeithHaynes

Maybe it’s not called Martinball anymore ?


We are playing nothing like we did before Keith.....the stats even show it 50% possession yesterday and we scored 2 goals and created lots of other chances I recall sitting through games where we had 70% or more possession and as Russ said we "dominated" the game yet lost or failed to score.

Let's not pretend patience with the "process" has paid off the "process" has been dropped we are no longer playing Martinball as his vision he is playing sensible attractive attacking football
Martin has realised his "way" wasnt working and has adapted ....its taken him 3 seasons mind!

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:55 - Oct 9 with 696 viewsWhiterockin

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:46 - Oct 9 by vetchonian

We are playing nothing like we did before Keith.....the stats even show it 50% possession yesterday and we scored 2 goals and created lots of other chances I recall sitting through games where we had 70% or more possession and as Russ said we "dominated" the game yet lost or failed to score.

Let's not pretend patience with the "process" has paid off the "process" has been dropped we are no longer playing Martinball as his vision he is playing sensible attractive attacking football
Martin has realised his "way" wasnt working and has adapted ....its taken him 3 seasons mind!


We are playing evolveball. Who knows where it will end, it's all part of the journey, hold tight and enjoy the ride.
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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 19:05 - Oct 9 with 683 viewsvetchonian

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:55 - Oct 9 by Whiterockin

We are playing evolveball. Who knows where it will end, it's all part of the journey, hold tight and enjoy the ride.


We are but there are still so many on here claiming we are where we are because of the process.

We are where we are because there has been a sea change.


as a result we are winning....but lets not pretend its due to Martin's brilliant management.

Things have changed in how we play its totally different to what we have seen Im happy we are where we are but please lets not pretend its the result of the last 50 odd games ..and things have "clicked" for whatever reason MArtin has had a change in approach...

Im happy always am when we are winning and competing which previously we werent we are also pleasing on the eye long may it continue

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 19:05 - Oct 9 with 683 viewsmagicdaps10

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 18:55 - Oct 9 by Whiterockin

We are playing evolveball. Who knows where it will end, it's all part of the journey, hold tight and enjoy the ride.


It's become more of a personal battle on here in regards to being right rather than what's the best in regards to understanding the position Swansea City are in.

Once we lost that play off final against Brentford then things were going to chance......patience and understanding was key and hopefully Martin has now built a foundation that allows us to grow again.

Its about Swansea City and always has been.

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Is the patience finally paying off!? on 19:18 - Oct 9 with 668 viewsbuilthjack

Is the patience finally paying off!? on 13:29 - Oct 9 by Sirjohnalot

Let's just all agree please, it does not matter who was right who was wrong ('who killed who' to quote Monty Python) we are playing well. That's all that is important.


It matters to some that they are always right. Big time.

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