| NHS waiting lists 20:32 - Oct 23 with 3614 views | britferry |
Saw this on the news earlier, this is the number of people who have been on a waiting list for an operation for over 2 years:
England:
population: 56.5m
Number of people: 2,646
Scotland:
population: 5.5m
Number of people: 7,650
Wales:
population: 3.2m
Number of people: 59,350
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| NHS waiting lists on 20:41 - Oct 23 with 1701 views | Dr_Winston |
Westminster's fault. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| NHS waiting lists on 21:01 - Oct 23 with 1684 views | Wingstandwood |
Staggering! Shocking! The system is well and truly broken! I was in Morriston A+E and came across a woman whom had suffered a stroke and she had sat in a wheelchair from 10:00am Wednesday morning when she was admitted, and was still sat there at 4:20am on the Thursday morning when I was leaving. She was waiting for a bed!
You have got to actually see it to appreciate it. What you see on BBC/HTV wales news and read in the Evening Post is just scratching the surface, its relentless, ongoing and getting worse.
It's not just waiting lists, its ambulance responce times, or its NHS dentist availabilty, or its getting a G.P. appointment. Decent and precious service(s) that was once the norm and taken for granted years ago is sadly no longer there. Respect to NHS hospital staff whom have to work in extremely trying circumstances.
And to think some want more politicans and even more power for that absolute joke of a Welsh government in Cardiff Bay! |  |
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| NHS waiting lists on 21:09 - Oct 23 with 1673 views | Gwyn737 |
| NHS waiting lists on 21:01 - Oct 23 by Wingstandwood |
Staggering! Shocking! The system is well and truly broken! I was in Morriston A+E and came across a woman whom had suffered a stroke and she had sat in a wheelchair from 10:00am Wednesday morning when she was admitted, and was still sat there at 4:20am on the Thursday morning when I was leaving. She was waiting for a bed!
You have got to actually see it to appreciate it. What you see on BBC/HTV wales news and read in the Evening Post is just scratching the surface, its relentless, ongoing and getting worse.
It's not just waiting lists, its ambulance responce times, or its NHS dentist availabilty, or its getting a G.P. appointment. Decent and precious service(s) that was once the norm and taken for granted years ago is sadly no longer there. Respect to NHS hospital staff whom have to work in extremely trying circumstances.
And to think some want more politicans and even more power for that absolute joke of a Welsh government in Cardiff Bay! |
Frightening when you think it’s only October.
What on earth is winter going to be like? | | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 21:10 - Oct 23 with 1672 views | Dr_Winston |
Mrs. Winston's 75 year old mother spent 14 hours with a broken leg waiting for an ambulance fairly recently.
Plenty of cash to impose worthless 20mph zones, or increase the number of Labour MS's. If people die waiting for Ambulances? Well, that's Westminster's fault. [Post edited 23 Oct 2022 21:16]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| NHS waiting lists on 21:25 - Oct 23 with 1658 views | britferry |
How much do the Free prescriptions cost our NHS? | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 21:25 - Oct 23 with 1658 views | Wingstandwood |
| NHS waiting lists on 21:10 - Oct 23 by Dr_Winston |
Mrs. Winston's 75 year old mother spent 14 hours with a broken leg waiting for an ambulance fairly recently.
Plenty of cash to impose worthless 20mph zones, or increase the number of Labour MS's. If people die waiting for Ambulances? Well, that's Westminster's fault. [Post edited 23 Oct 2022 21:16]
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Your experience is not unique, nor extraordinary, its the norm i.e the stuff you read in papers or see in the news is not rare involving an isolated case here and there, its happening to thousands of people every week. This is what people should expect nowadays as standard responce.
I personally waited ten hours for NHS paramedics to arrive for a O.A.P relative in his ninties who had fallen and on another occasion a St John's Ambulance paramedic travelled from Bridgend to Gower to see to the same relative.
Not many people realise that both The British Red Cross and St Johns Ambulance services are now providing cover for Welsh NHS staff. | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 21:30 - Oct 23 with 1651 views | Boundy |
Not much to say about this atm but when you can’t get the care you need when suffering from cancer then there’s no hope | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 11:28 - Oct 24 with 1569 views | Togg |
| NHS waiting lists on 21:10 - Oct 23 by Dr_Winston |
Mrs. Winston's 75 year old mother spent 14 hours with a broken leg waiting for an ambulance fairly recently.
Plenty of cash to impose worthless 20mph zones, or increase the number of Labour MS's. If people die waiting for Ambulances? Well, that's Westminster's fault. [Post edited 23 Oct 2022 21:16]
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That's terrible. | | | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 12:11 - Oct 24 with 1545 views | Dr_Winston |
| NHS waiting lists on 11:28 - Oct 24 by Togg |
That's terrible. |
It's just the utter contempt for the electorate that gets me. They'll never lose power and they know it. They feel completely comfortable increasing the number of members knowing full well that they'll only be more in control.
With that comes the ability to basically stick two fingers up to anyone in West Wales suffering a life threatening accident by putting the major trauma centre in Cardiff (already well served by Bristol if necessary) rather than Morriston.
To keep lockdown rules implemented far longer and deeper than was necessary. Sometimes months after they'd been lifted in England with no ill effect, because, smugly, "We do things differently in Wales".
To spend hundreds of millions subsidising a pointless airport or implementing lower speed limits when people have to wait half a day for an ambulance, then having the barefaced cheek to try and blame someone else for it.
It bears repeating time and again. Anyone outside Cardiff who voted for Devolution commited civic suicide. [Post edited 24 Oct 2022 12:12]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| NHS waiting lists on 12:33 - Oct 24 with 1532 views | majorraglan |
I don’t believe the term operation is correct, the initial BBC site carrying the story says “treatment” which could include things like physiotherapist, a hearing test etc. The BMA have published information which states there are 7 million people across the UK on NHS consultant led care waiting lists, so it’s clear we’re not getting the right information to be able to make accurate comparisons.
The rise is inexcusable and needs sorting. Wales has a bigger proportion of older people and patients in Wales tend to stay in hospital for an average of 7 days whereas in England it’s 4.5 days, the extra 2.5 days impacts on bed availability which in turn impacts on treatment schedules. If people can be discharged quicker it will improve patient flow, but the ability to discharge older patients which is linked to the availability of care packages. Carers are some of the lowest paid workers and there aren’t enough people prepared to go the job.
The ambulance service issues are directly linked to the ability to discharge patients in A&E.
More needs to be done to get things moving in the right direction but the WG need to up their game and we need better services. [Post edited 24 Oct 2022 12:36]
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| NHS waiting lists on 12:45 - Oct 24 with 1521 views | Whiterockin |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:11 - Oct 24 by Dr_Winston |
It's just the utter contempt for the electorate that gets me. They'll never lose power and they know it. They feel completely comfortable increasing the number of members knowing full well that they'll only be more in control.
With that comes the ability to basically stick two fingers up to anyone in West Wales suffering a life threatening accident by putting the major trauma centre in Cardiff (already well served by Bristol if necessary) rather than Morriston.
To keep lockdown rules implemented far longer and deeper than was necessary. Sometimes months after they'd been lifted in England with no ill effect, because, smugly, "We do things differently in Wales".
To spend hundreds of millions subsidising a pointless airport or implementing lower speed limits when people have to wait half a day for an ambulance, then having the barefaced cheek to try and blame someone else for it.
It bears repeating time and again. Anyone outside Cardiff who voted for Devolution commited civic suicide. [Post edited 24 Oct 2022 12:12]
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I voted for devolution but not for what we have. We were told that the Welsh Government would not be based in Cardiff but meet throughout Wales and be for all Welsh people. How it morphed into the Senedd god only knows but its not what we voted for. |  | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:51 - Oct 24 with 1506 views | Treforys_Jack |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:45 - Oct 24 by Whiterockin |
I voted for devolution but not for what we have. We were told that the Welsh Government would not be based in Cardiff but meet throughout Wales and be for all Welsh people. How it morphed into the Senedd god only knows but its not what we voted for. |
Same here, it should be moved around North, South and Mid Wales, but no, once the snouts got in the trough they become exactly the same as those in Westminster. Genuinely despise Drakeford, he's had a chance to make a difference but is just useless. The NHS and ambulance waiting times in Wales is cause enough to lock him up for incompetence. I supported devolution, this is not it !!!! |  | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:58 - Oct 24 with 1503 views | BryanSwan |
| NHS waiting lists on 21:25 - Oct 23 by britferry |
How much do the Free prescriptions cost our NHS? |
Lets not target things that are on the whole very good, it is only the unnecessary prescriptions that annoy me (such as paracetamol etc).
The NHS needs a drastic overhall, both in Wales and the UK. If only we could both have politicians who were comitted to providing adequate healthcare for it's citizens. | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 13:23 - Oct 24 with 1496 views | raynor94 |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:58 - Oct 24 by BryanSwan |
Lets not target things that are on the whole very good, it is only the unnecessary prescriptions that annoy me (such as paracetamol etc).
The NHS needs a drastic overhall, both in Wales and the UK. If only we could both have politicians who were comitted to providing adequate healthcare for it's citizens. |
Should be means tested, this blanket coverage just like the winter payments need to be more targeted |  |
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| NHS waiting lists on 14:08 - Oct 24 with 1480 views | Wingstandwood |
The suffering and distress of many has reached a level whereupon private providers have now become the last desperate alternative. Today in SW Wales we see local providers like Circle Health Group (Werndale Hospital) and HMT (Sancta Maria Hospital) along with Denplan (Welsh dentist practices) and The IGP (Welsh private G.P practices) etc.
I await the creation of a fully independent BUPA/Denplan style private ambulance provider not too dissimilar from another private Welsh NHS Trust(s) provider/contractor but with a major difference? A case of a fully private (payment required) ambulance provider focusing solely upon a Welsh patient’s ability to provide both a credit card and policy number at hand?
And for anyone claiming that is a unwarrented pessimism? I refer you to a bygone era when significant patient usage requiring the intervention of private G.P’s, dentists, chiropodists and hospitals etc was once unimaginable.
But hey? Maybe that was the masterplan all along i.e. that way you can then divert money saved to waste on more: cr@p politicians, hangers-on, jobs for the boys, quango's, third-sector bullsh1t, and money wasting vanity projects serving Cardiff and Cardiff only? [Post edited 24 Oct 2022 15:10]
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| NHS waiting lists on 15:16 - Oct 24 with 1428 views | BarrySwan |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:51 - Oct 24 by Treforys_Jack |
Same here, it should be moved around North, South and Mid Wales, but no, once the snouts got in the trough they become exactly the same as those in Westminster. Genuinely despise Drakeford, he's had a chance to make a difference but is just useless. The NHS and ambulance waiting times in Wales is cause enough to lock him up for incompetence. I supported devolution, this is not it !!!! |
Just out of interest what difference does it make if the inadequates in Welsh government meet in a room in Llanidloes, Lampeter, Bangor or Cardiff in their quest to maintain Wales' position at the bottom of the UK pile in just about everything?
Surely they'll just be in room attended by nil of the welsh public wherever they are whilst boasting of inclusively spreading their decision making all around Wales.
I've never really understood the thinking behind the "Fair play they're spreading their meetings all around Wales' meme. | | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 15:27 - Oct 24 with 1418 views | BryanSwan |
| NHS waiting lists on 13:23 - Oct 24 by raynor94 |
Should be means tested, this blanket coverage just like the winter payments need to be more targeted |
Maybe so, but knowing how disabled people are treated in regard to benefits I would have no confidence in a means tested system actually helping those who need it. | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 15:57 - Oct 24 with 1404 views | Treforys_Jack |
| NHS waiting lists on 15:16 - Oct 24 by BarrySwan |
Just out of interest what difference does it make if the inadequates in Welsh government meet in a room in Llanidloes, Lampeter, Bangor or Cardiff in their quest to maintain Wales' position at the bottom of the UK pile in just about everything?
Surely they'll just be in room attended by nil of the welsh public wherever they are whilst boasting of inclusively spreading their decision making all around Wales.
I've never really understood the thinking behind the "Fair play they're spreading their meetings all around Wales' meme. |
That is what they said they would do,it at least gives the impression that the rest of Wales exists. | | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 16:23 - Oct 24 with 1385 views | Whiterockin |
| NHS waiting lists on 15:16 - Oct 24 by BarrySwan |
Just out of interest what difference does it make if the inadequates in Welsh government meet in a room in Llanidloes, Lampeter, Bangor or Cardiff in their quest to maintain Wales' position at the bottom of the UK pile in just about everything?
Surely they'll just be in room attended by nil of the welsh public wherever they are whilst boasting of inclusively spreading their decision making all around Wales.
I've never really understood the thinking behind the "Fair play they're spreading their meetings all around Wales' meme. |
When they try to get there the would realise the the road and transport network outside East Wales is crap and hopefully do something about it. | | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 16:27 - Oct 24 with 1382 views | Boundy |
| NHS waiting lists on 16:23 - Oct 24 by Whiterockin |
When they try to get there the would realise the the road and transport network outside East Wales is crap and hopefully do something about it. |
Very few delays if you're choppered in | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 16:59 - Oct 24 with 1359 views | Catullus |
| NHS waiting lists on 12:51 - Oct 24 by Treforys_Jack |
Same here, it should be moved around North, South and Mid Wales, but no, once the snouts got in the trough they become exactly the same as those in Westminster. Genuinely despise Drakeford, he's had a chance to make a difference but is just useless. The NHS and ambulance waiting times in Wales is cause enough to lock him up for incompetence. I supported devolution, this is not it !!!! |
I don't think it should be mved around. I think it should have been built in an area outside of any town or city, it should have been put close to the best rail and road links in mid Wales and been kept away from towns and cities and designed to serve all of Wales.
Politicians have a preoccupation with "capital cities" and despite all the evidence they still seem to think trickle down will work.
In England they used to say a prosperous London will help the Uk and it never has, it just got richer whilst the rest got worse. Well since devo we have seen the same discredited, stupid ideas brought in in Wales, a prosperous Cardiff will see the wealth spread throughtout Wales they've said.
It's every bit as much a lie as when Westminster said it. Drakeford says we do things differently in Wales. Well the tricle down nonsense, the snouts in troughs and not listening to and/or being out of touch with the people, it's very much the same as Westminster. | |
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| NHS waiting lists on 17:15 - Oct 24 with 1348 views | max936 |
Can't get to speak to a doctor at surgery even, disgusting, phoned earlier said I needed to speak to Doc for advice, noting available today now, phone back at half 8 in morning, got raised blood pressure, had a stressful 5/6 hrs yesterday so put it down to that, its dropped from last night but still high. |  |
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| NHS waiting lists on 18:23 - Oct 24 with 1309 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| NHS waiting lists on 21:10 - Oct 23 by Dr_Winston |
Mrs. Winston's 75 year old mother spent 14 hours with a broken leg waiting for an ambulance fairly recently.
Plenty of cash to impose worthless 20mph zones, or increase the number of Labour MS's. If people die waiting for Ambulances? Well, that's Westminster's fault. [Post edited 23 Oct 2022 21:16]
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Mrs Joesus’s grandfather went to A+E in Morriston with crippling pains in his back whilst coughing up blood. It was 14 hours before he was seen, they said it was a kidney infection and sent him on his way with antibiotics.
Turns out it was liver cancer that has now spread to his kidneys and hip. |  |
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| NHS waiting lists on 18:33 - Oct 24 with 1298 views | shingle |
Plenty of consultants available and no waiting lists, just not on the NHS they love the money see. | | | |
| NHS waiting lists on 19:30 - Oct 24 with 1251 views | raynor94 |
| NHS waiting lists on 18:33 - Oct 24 by shingle |
Plenty of consultants available and no waiting lists, just not on the NHS they love the money see. |
Same as Dentists | |
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