| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil 07:00 - May 23 with 3464 views | SwansIndependent |
 Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil 23rd May 2023 07:00Swansea City are finding themselves amidst boardroom disruption as a complete overhaul at Southampton continues. Discussions were left at stalemate last night between the Swans and the Saints for compensation for Russell Martin who has verbally agreed to join the south coast of England club.  0
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 07:58 - May 23 with 2701 views | onehunglow |
Needs sorting one way or the other.
If they can’t agree ,then Martin is an invidious position and our club in a parlous position.
I pray our owners get this one over the line . | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 08:33 - May 23 with 2664 views | EagleEye |
Until the club have identified & is ready to make an offer for a replacement, it should be able to play hardball on compo. Some publications suggesting only £400k required |  | | |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 08:48 - May 23 with 2618 views | Whiterockin |
I can see it going down the Cooper road unless they pay up. IMO RM is gone one way or another and won't be with us any longer. If Southampton don't pay he will be on gardening leave until someone does. We move on irrespective. |  | | |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 09:03 - May 23 with 2580 views | QJumpingJack |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 08:33 - May 23 by EagleEye |
Until the club have identified & is ready to make an offer for a replacement, it should be able to play hardball on compo. Some publications suggesting only £400k required |
I am not sure we are able to play hard ball and negotiate.
I expect there is a fixed sum should he leave now with one year remaining. | | | |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 09:57 - May 23 with 2441 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 08:33 - May 23 by EagleEye |
Until the club have identified & is ready to make an offer for a replacement, it should be able to play hardball on compo. Some publications suggesting only £400k required |
That’s the issue, 400k but it’s what else is going with him. Hence the club nit accepting it. ( ATM ) |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 10:45 - May 23 with 2355 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 09:57 - May 23 by KeithHaynes |
That’s the issue, 400k but it’s what else is going with him. Hence the club nit accepting it. ( ATM ) |
It seems to me and confirmed in some of your posts that Martin is gone whatever happens. If Soton want to play hardball, let’s say they have other options, then we could see him and his team go for much less than the contracted compensation figure as that would be better than having him on gardening leave for a year. |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 11:05 - May 23 with 2317 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 10:45 - May 23 by union_jack |
It seems to me and confirmed in some of your posts that Martin is gone whatever happens. If Soton want to play hardball, let’s say they have other options, then we could see him and his team go for much less than the contracted compensation figure as that would be better than having him on gardening leave for a year. |
The situation now is irretrievable. | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 11:46 - May 23 with 2229 views | Badlands |
Reading Cornish67David's piece
Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil 23rd May 2023 07:00Swansea City are finding themselves amidst boardroom disruption as a complete overhaul at Southampton continues. Discussions were left at stalemate last night between the Swans and the Saints for compensation for Russell Martin who has verbally agreed to join the south coast of England club. 0
There appears to be a realistic possibility that Southampton could pull the plug on Martin's appointment! |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:20 - May 23 with 2148 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 11:46 - May 23 by Badlands |
Reading Cornish67David's piece
Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil 23rd May 2023 07:00Swansea City are finding themselves amidst boardroom disruption as a complete overhaul at Southampton continues. Discussions were left at stalemate last night between the Swans and the Saints for compensation for Russell Martin who has verbally agreed to join the south coast of England club. 0
There appears to be a realistic possibility that Southampton could pull the plug on Martin's appointment! |
They obviously don’t want him that much then. |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:35 - May 23 with 2113 views | STID2017 |
Sounds to me like a frying pan and fire syndrome for Martin.
He could find himself ostracised by the Swans owners with nowhere to go.
Sounds kind of familiar |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:42 - May 23 with 2092 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:35 - May 23 by STID2017 |
Sounds to me like a frying pan and fire syndrome for Martin.
He could find himself ostracised by the Swans owners with nowhere to go.
Sounds kind of familiar |
I was actually thinking the same thing
But Russ may yet have the Leicester option given as they look dead certs to go down
What amazes me is the owners havent learnt form the Cooper scenario whisper were that the "excessive" compo demands cooled the interest of Palace and Fulham and here they go again .Seems strange though if has been suggested the club were looking to dispense with his services at least 450K in was better than the cost of paying him off | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:47 - May 23 with 2079 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:42 - May 23 by vetchonian |
I was actually thinking the same thing
But Russ may yet have the Leicester option given as they look dead certs to go down
What amazes me is the owners havent learnt form the Cooper scenario whisper were that the "excessive" compo demands cooled the interest of Palace and Fulham and here they go again .Seems strange though if has been suggested the club were looking to dispense with his services at least 450K in was better than the cost of paying him off |
The owners should have had all their ducks lined up ready.
However the club is like a headless chicken at the moment.
When our manager and best players have flown the nest then our problems could really come home to roost | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 14:16 - May 23 with 1982 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:47 - May 23 by STID2017 |
The owners should have had all their ducks lined up ready.
However the club is like a headless chicken at the moment.
When our manager and best players have flown the nest then our problems could really come home to roost |
It is amazing that somehow people believe all our “best players are about to leave
Id he surprised if Piroe doesn’t go given his goals over the last two seasons but really expect him to go to the PL and its been part of our model selling players for a profit dint forget he has refused to sign an extension so he can walk next July for free so we beed to capitalise not so sure many others will be offski and especially not to Saints with Martin given that article | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 14:36 - May 23 with 1933 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:47 - May 23 by STID2017 |
The owners should have had all their ducks lined up ready.
However the club is like a headless chicken at the moment.
When our manager and best players have flown the nest then our problems could really come home to roost |
The club are doing the right thing in my opinion, why should we let Saints get away cheap, its not just about Martin.
The backroom staff he's taking needs to be compensated for.
Hopefully the truth will come out in the wash |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 14:44 - May 23 with 1912 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 14:36 - May 23 by raynor94 |
The club are doing the right thing in my opinion, why should we let Saints get away cheap, its not just about Martin.
The backroom staff he's taking needs to be compensated for.
Hopefully the truth will come out in the wash |
Southampton just need to pay the going rate not like they will be short of cash. | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 15:15 - May 23 with 1841 views | Badlands |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 14:36 - May 23 by raynor94 |
The club are doing the right thing in my opinion, why should we let Saints get away cheap, its not just about Martin.
The backroom staff he's taking needs to be compensated for.
Hopefully the truth will come out in the wash |
Just the usual suspects finding ways to moan bout the owners.
They will be moaning if the club sells Piroe for less than the $0 million they think he's worth.
If Martin doesn't go to Soton he has little option but to resign. And, despite what the fanboys think he won't be in the driving seat for another job.
Cooper could call on his youth management and play off credentials ... Martin can't and that appalling run from October to March will influential.
No matter what the situation our location and financial position will make selling Swansea to a manager as difficult as it is to bring in players. | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 15:30 - May 23 with 1800 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 15:15 - May 23 by Badlands |
Just the usual suspects finding ways to moan bout the owners.
They will be moaning if the club sells Piroe for less than the $0 million they think he's worth.
If Martin doesn't go to Soton he has little option but to resign. And, despite what the fanboys think he won't be in the driving seat for another job.
Cooper could call on his youth management and play off credentials ... Martin can't and that appalling run from October to March will influential.
No matter what the situation our location and financial position will make selling Swansea to a manager as difficult as it is to bring in players. |
Why would he have to resign? | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 15:38 - May 23 with 1779 views | QJumpingJack |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 15:15 - May 23 by Badlands |
Just the usual suspects finding ways to moan bout the owners.
They will be moaning if the club sells Piroe for less than the $0 million they think he's worth.
If Martin doesn't go to Soton he has little option but to resign. And, despite what the fanboys think he won't be in the driving seat for another job.
Cooper could call on his youth management and play off credentials ... Martin can't and that appalling run from October to March will influential.
No matter what the situation our location and financial position will make selling Swansea to a manager as difficult as it is to bring in players. |
I am not sure Martin would resign.
He would be placed on gardening leave.
This could be Summer 2021 all over again. | | | |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 16:59 - May 23 with 1637 views | SullutaCreturned |
If it was my call I'd take the 450k (if that's what is on the table) because otherwise we are stuck with a manager we don't want who we will have to keep paying even when we have replaced him, just do the maths and make the pragmatic decision.
As for the players, lets assume Martin is at the Saints, he can take Grimes if he wants but we can play hardball there, pay what we want or go away. I also think Piroe will be looking higher but we do need to accept either a lower fee for him or he's on a free next May.
It's about making the best ecision for the club and hanging out demanding a lot more than the "buyers" are prepared to pay is fine when you're in a strong position but we are not in that position.
It's really worrying that our owners are succesful business people who own several sports clubs but seem incapable of understanding the difference between sports business and "regular" business and thus making the best decision. [Post edited 23 May 2023 17:24]
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:12 - May 23 with 1599 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 15:38 - May 23 by QJumpingJack |
I am not sure Martin would resign.
He would be placed on gardening leave.
This could be Summer 2021 all over again. |
Martin would be like Steve Morrison but clearly a bigger name. He would be picked up by someone eventually having got Swansea to 10th. He has other businesses to keep him occupied.
He like Cooper probably believes he deserves a bigger package. That would have to be in the Championship at least. |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:22 - May 23 with 1578 views | max936 |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 12:47 - May 23 by STID2017 |
The owners should have had all their ducks lined up ready.
However the club is like a headless chicken at the moment.
When our manager and best players have flown the nest then our problems could really come home to roost |
What! you mean to say that our gracious wonderful owners aren't up to the loving praise that some posters afford them, well I never!
There's to many decision makers, one can't run a bath unless the others agree etc, there's about 6 now on last count, its laughable. |  |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:22 - May 23 with 1577 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:12 - May 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Martin would be like Steve Morrison but clearly a bigger name. He would be picked up by someone eventually having got Swansea to 10th. He has other businesses to keep him occupied.
He like Cooper probably believes he deserves a bigger package. That would have to be in the Championship at least. |
You can be a drab failure at several clubs and some other club will always give you a chance. Football is funny like that, all you need is one passable season somewhere and you'll keep getting offers. | | | |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:24 - May 23 with 1561 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 16:59 - May 23 by SullutaCreturned |
If it was my call I'd take the 450k (if that's what is on the table) because otherwise we are stuck with a manager we don't want who we will have to keep paying even when we have replaced him, just do the maths and make the pragmatic decision.
As for the players, lets assume Martin is at the Saints, he can take Grimes if he wants but we can play hardball there, pay what we want or go away. I also think Piroe will be looking higher but we do need to accept either a lower fee for him or he's on a free next May.
It's about making the best ecision for the club and hanging out demanding a lot more than the "buyers" are prepared to pay is fine when you're in a strong position but we are not in that position.
It's really worrying that our owners are succesful business people who own several sports clubs but seem incapable of understanding the difference between sports business and "regular" business and thus making the best decision. [Post edited 23 May 2023 17:24]
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If you were selling you house would you sell it for half price after a couple of days on the market. | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:28 - May 23 with 1547 views | max936 |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 14:36 - May 23 by raynor94 |
The club are doing the right thing in my opinion, why should we let Saints get away cheap, its not just about Martin.
The backroom staff he's taking needs to be compensated for.
Hopefully the truth will come out in the wash |
That's not the issue whilst all this dilly dallying is going on we'll remain managerless along with plans for next season. | |
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| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:32 - May 23 with 1540 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea City fighting for compensation & Saints board in turmoil on 17:24 - May 23 by guthrieintherain |
If you were selling you house would you sell it for half price after a couple of days on the market. |
Oh come on, that would depend on the situation. If I was facing losing the house and it was sell or lose it all for nothing, then yes I would.
It's hardly a vaild comparison though, my house can't refuse a new contract, kick me out and choose its new owner. | | | |
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