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Rugby World Cup Thread 09:31 - Sep 13 with 16569 viewsPlanetHonneywood

A week to go and aside of the annoying Tarquin ra-ra factor, looking forward to a tournament where ‘all’ the players won’t be rolling around feigning injury as if they were shot by a blunderbuss when they were hardly touched at all.

Kiwis to lose really, nothing revealing about that. But the fact they’re in the same pool as the Boks and neither would meet until the final, then assuming they both avoid defeat, makes it hard to look beyond an AB, Yarpies final. As the rest of us can be inconsistent and would likely have to beat both those behemoths to win it; hard to see anyone lifting the trophy.


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Rugby World Cup Thread on 06:49 - Oct 15 with 1535 viewsKiwi76

Think Ireland will play lot better than previous in this tournament but v pleased AB’s have avoided Wayne Barnes as referee for Q/F.
Hoping WC can gain some momentum from here - any interest over there?!
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 07:55 - Oct 15 with 1511 viewsElHoop

Rugby World Cup Thread on 06:49 - Oct 15 by Kiwi76

Think Ireland will play lot better than previous in this tournament but v pleased AB’s have avoided Wayne Barnes as referee for Q/F.
Hoping WC can gain some momentum from here - any interest over there?!


Missed most of the Japan game on Sunday and it seems like ages since I actually sat and watched a whole game, which is a bit odd when this is supposed to be a tournament. Anyhow it was always going to be a case of keeping afloat until the Quarter finals and avoiding injuries, so we start all over again on Saturday. Can't see Ireland beating NZ in a proper game that matters. I fancy Australia to beat England if they avoid too many handling errors. Wales will beat France. Japan v South Africa is the game. Could see that going either way but it should be fun to watch.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 09:47 - Oct 15 with 1483 viewsrobith

Rugby World Cup Thread on 00:57 - Oct 15 by timcocking

Yeah, it's getting bloody ridiculous huh?

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/rwc-over-20-per-cent-of-pla

Next world cup to be won by the UAE without one homegrown player. Perhaps Man City can start an international Rugby Team and win that as well?

It's another one of those issues which we all know is fundamentally wrong and yet nobody seems to care. What a sickener for the players who are pushed out of the squad for foreign signings.
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You know that's a link from 2015 right? Makes me think you haven't read it.

And let's go through the numbers there.

Samoa and Tonga top because they're poor countries and people move to New Zealand and Aus. Meaning a lot of the squad are "foreign born" going back to play for them, or because they sought out new lives.

Japan have five, but one of those is Korean. The bulk of the squad is Japanese born, which is pretty great considering it's a niche sport there and the point of this team is try and galvanise the country into taking the game up

Wales have 10 "foreign born" players - 9 of them born in England to Welsh parents.

Scotland admittedly have a lot - but they also have 10,000 senior men's players, half of what Ireland and Wales have and less than 7% of the players England have so I don't blame them for their scouting approach to find other players who are Scottish qualified (but only 2 with no connection qualifying on residency).

Ireland - feel sorry for Dev, but he was fourth choice at best. And to show how stupid that article is Ireland's number from 2015 includes Jamie Heaslip who was born in Israel as his dad was in the Irish army and stationed there on UN peacekeeping duty, and Jordi Murphy who was born in Spain to Irish parents who were working there at the time.

France have no excuse - their rugby set up is a shambles and they are probably the ones closest to what you accuse everyone of.

England - Manu, Mako and Billy all moved to the UK when they were children, went to school here and represented England from under 18s onwards. Cockasigna moved here when he was one. Not English enough for you? Forcing some proper English boys outs are they?

Other than that it's mostly low numbers of people fitting with a general pattern of the movement of people outside of rugby. Sorry that doesn't quite fit your DEY TOOK OUR JOBS narratives, but I'd suggest you research the things you share beforehand
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 09:51 - Oct 15 with 1477 viewsrobith

New Zealand are probably going to slap us truth told. They played very conservatively in 2018 and I think their pace round the fringes will kill us. We've been pretty dreadful this calendar year and nowhere near the execution levels of 2018. I foresee a pretty casual NZ win. Showtime Nigel is also reffing which will massively favour NZ's style of play
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 09:53 - Oct 15 with 1476 viewsrobith

England will marmalise Australia, and Garces as ref amplifies that. He basically doesn't understand the breakdown and I think with England's significantly better tight 5 they can counter ruck Aus off the pitch like Wales did

France are rubbish. Facile Wales win.

South Africa Japan is gonna be the one
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 16:36 - Oct 17 with 1328 viewsSimonJames

Rugby World Cup Thread on 09:53 - Oct 15 by robith

England will marmalise Australia, and Garces as ref amplifies that. He basically doesn't understand the breakdown and I think with England's significantly better tight 5 they can counter ruck Aus off the pitch like Wales did

France are rubbish. Facile Wales win.

South Africa Japan is gonna be the one


I hope Ireland and Japan win, and the French beat Wales.
That would make life slightly easier for Eng if we manage to defeat the Aussies.
And even if we didn't win the WC, I'd be quite happy with Ireland or Japan winning it.

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Rugby World Cup Thread on 01:38 - Oct 18 with 1205 viewstimcocking

Rugby World Cup Thread on 09:47 - Oct 15 by robith

You know that's a link from 2015 right? Makes me think you haven't read it.

And let's go through the numbers there.

Samoa and Tonga top because they're poor countries and people move to New Zealand and Aus. Meaning a lot of the squad are "foreign born" going back to play for them, or because they sought out new lives.

Japan have five, but one of those is Korean. The bulk of the squad is Japanese born, which is pretty great considering it's a niche sport there and the point of this team is try and galvanise the country into taking the game up

Wales have 10 "foreign born" players - 9 of them born in England to Welsh parents.

Scotland admittedly have a lot - but they also have 10,000 senior men's players, half of what Ireland and Wales have and less than 7% of the players England have so I don't blame them for their scouting approach to find other players who are Scottish qualified (but only 2 with no connection qualifying on residency).

Ireland - feel sorry for Dev, but he was fourth choice at best. And to show how stupid that article is Ireland's number from 2015 includes Jamie Heaslip who was born in Israel as his dad was in the Irish army and stationed there on UN peacekeeping duty, and Jordi Murphy who was born in Spain to Irish parents who were working there at the time.

France have no excuse - their rugby set up is a shambles and they are probably the ones closest to what you accuse everyone of.

England - Manu, Mako and Billy all moved to the UK when they were children, went to school here and represented England from under 18s onwards. Cockasigna moved here when he was one. Not English enough for you? Forcing some proper English boys outs are they?

Other than that it's mostly low numbers of people fitting with a general pattern of the movement of people outside of rugby. Sorry that doesn't quite fit your DEY TOOK OUR JOBS narratives, but I'd suggest you research the things you share beforehand


Ok, i take it back, it's marvellous to have 15 foreign born players in their squad, nothing whatsoever wrong with that.

Ps The Vunipolas are Welsh
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:28 - Oct 18 with 1121 viewsEastR

Rugby World Cup Thread on 09:53 - Oct 15 by robith

England will marmalise Australia, and Garces as ref amplifies that. He basically doesn't understand the breakdown and I think with England's significantly better tight 5 they can counter ruck Aus off the pitch like Wales did

France are rubbish. Facile Wales win.

South Africa Japan is gonna be the one


The handicaps for the weekend are England -8; NZ -12; Wales-7; Japan +15

I reckon England(Evs), Wales(Evs) and NZ(11/10) will outscore those. Japan will be too close for comfort.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 11:02 - Oct 18 with 1102 viewsPhildo

Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:28 - Oct 18 by EastR

The handicaps for the weekend are England -8; NZ -12; Wales-7; Japan +15

I reckon England(Evs), Wales(Evs) and NZ(11/10) will outscore those. Japan will be too close for comfort.


I think each of the quarter finals is capable of providing an upset. Not saying they will just that they could which will make for an entertaining weekend.

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Rugby World Cup Thread on 12:38 - Oct 18 with 1066 viewsrobith

Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:28 - Oct 18 by EastR

The handicaps for the weekend are England -8; NZ -12; Wales-7; Japan +15

I reckon England(Evs), Wales(Evs) and NZ(11/10) will outscore those. Japan will be too close for comfort.


Last four games between Ireland New Zealand have been one score games, so while I think they'll win, big call to say NZ will win by 2 scores
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 12:43 - Oct 18 with 1059 viewsrobith

So nervous i feel sick.

It's going to be close, it's going to be excruciating, and we're going to lose. I'm not sure I'm built for these times
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 13:48 - Oct 18 with 1019 viewsElHoop

It's the World Cup though. It's not the Six Nations. It's not Autumn Internationals. It's not a summer tour. Strange things can happen, one way or the other, and I would expect strange things over the weekend.

It's the World f*cking Cup.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 16:01 - Oct 18 with 993 viewsderbyhoop

A Scotsman walks I to a bar. Normally there would be an Englishman, an Irishman and a Welshman. But they are still in Japan.

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Rugby World Cup Thread on 19:55 - Oct 18 with 959 viewsElHoop

Rugby World Cup Thread on 16:01 - Oct 18 by derbyhoop

A Scotsman walks I to a bar. Normally there would be an Englishman, an Irishman and a Welshman. But they are still in Japan.


It's a bit of a shock that they're out and there's no court case.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 07:07 - Oct 19 with 905 viewsToast_R

Come on England and Ireland today. Nervous but lets hope they both put in their best performances.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 08:00 - Oct 19 with 885 viewsHooparoo

Rugby World Cup Thread on 07:07 - Oct 19 by Toast_R

Come on England and Ireland today. Nervous but lets hope they both put in their best performances.


No confidence from any of the Aussies I’ve spoken to. Let’s just hope it’s a good game and someone other than NZ wins for a change (sorry Kiwi 😘)

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Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:21 - Oct 19 with 803 viewsozranger

Rugby World Cup Thread on 08:00 - Oct 19 by Hooparoo

No confidence from any of the Aussies I’ve spoken to. Let’s just hope it’s a good game and someone other than NZ wins for a change (sorry Kiwi 😘)


Good result for Australian rugby. Now they can finally get rid of the worst coach in decades. Perhaps the ARU needs looking at as well.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:23 - Oct 19 with 802 viewsToast_R

England certainly stepped up today, great performance. Semi Final was really the minimum.

Come on Ireland, summon that Emerald spirit. Down from the glen came the marching men with their shields and their swords etc
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:48 - Oct 19 with 777 viewsMrSheen

Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:21 - Oct 19 by ozranger

Good result for Australian rugby. Now they can finally get rid of the worst coach in decades. Perhaps the ARU needs looking at as well.


There seems to be a corporate decision at the ARU that the national side has to live up to the model of the 80s team and keep the ball in hand. The best Aussie team of recent years have been the Brumbies; restricted by a small budget they play crude but effective wet-weather rugby and get most of their tries off rolling mauls. The powers that be in Sydney must fear that won’t get sponsors or eyeballs on the national stage, where the public prefers the superior entertainment (in my mind) of the NRL to kick-and-clap. Today’s Aussie pack would have been perfect for an arm-wrestle if they had had a 10 who could punt them to the other end. This is a bit of a crisis for them if they want to stay in the top tier.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 11:03 - Oct 19 with 765 viewsozexile

Rugby World Cup Thread on 10:48 - Oct 19 by MrSheen

There seems to be a corporate decision at the ARU that the national side has to live up to the model of the 80s team and keep the ball in hand. The best Aussie team of recent years have been the Brumbies; restricted by a small budget they play crude but effective wet-weather rugby and get most of their tries off rolling mauls. The powers that be in Sydney must fear that won’t get sponsors or eyeballs on the national stage, where the public prefers the superior entertainment (in my mind) of the NRL to kick-and-clap. Today’s Aussie pack would have been perfect for an arm-wrestle if they had had a 10 who could punt them to the other end. This is a bit of a crisis for them if they want to stay in the top tier.
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I think the NRL definitely eclipses Union. But union hasn't helped itself. When I first got here 15 years ago the Super 14 comp was advertised everywhere and the waratahs would get great crowds. Now the waratahs couldn't fill leichhardt oval. Many people I've spoke to have given up on it and go and watch the shute shield at sydney uni.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 11:56 - Oct 19 with 720 viewsLblock

Enjoyed that England performance

Ireland getting shredded at the moment though

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Rugby World Cup Thread on 12:13 - Oct 19 with 697 viewsjohnhoop

Rugby World Cup Thread on 11:56 - Oct 19 by Lblock

Enjoyed that England performance

Ireland getting shredded at the moment though


Was feeling pretty optimistic about England’s semi-final chances after that performance against Australia. But the All Blacks are just unstoppable against Ireland. They’re like a black tide rolling forward with almost zero errors and England are going to have to play out of their skins to beat them.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 13:32 - Oct 19 with 622 viewsEastR

Rugby World Cup Thread on 12:38 - Oct 18 by robith

Last four games between Ireland New Zealand have been one score games, so while I think they'll win, big call to say NZ will win by 2 scores


As a fellow Irishman I take no pleasure in that scoreline Robith, but I will ease the pain by raising a glass or two to the generosity of the odds compilers
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 13:37 - Oct 19 with 610 viewsGroveR

Rugby World Cup Thread on 12:13 - Oct 19 by johnhoop

Was feeling pretty optimistic about England’s semi-final chances after that performance against Australia. But the All Blacks are just unstoppable against Ireland. They’re like a black tide rolling forward with almost zero errors and England are going to have to play out of their skins to beat them.


3 errors in 80 minutes I think. The speed the All Blacks recycle and some of those offloads were staggering.
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Rugby World Cup Thread on 18:07 - Oct 19 with 522 viewsBlackCrowe

NZ were superb but ireland were incredibly one-dimensional, lacking skill and thought and seemed beaten after 10 mins.

We'll be underdogs next Saturday for sure but this England team and it's bench is very very good but it'll need an outstanding error-free performance.

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