| The BBC 20:49 - Nov 9 with 25101 views | colinallcars |
Bell, Book & Candle.
Please no nasty stuff, but they had it coming didn't they ?
When I were a nipper, they were one of the most respected organizations in the world. |  | | |  |
| The BBC on 15:36 - Nov 10 with 1992 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| The BBC on 15:07 - Nov 10 by Sonic_Hoop |
Ned, you missed a downvote opportunity. |
Can’t be bothered tbf.
The usual suspects have taken ownership of the thread as expected. |  | | |
| The BBC on 15:43 - Nov 10 with 1952 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The BBC on 15:35 - Nov 10 by Sonic_Hoop |
That's about a fifth of what the BBC adds to our economy. Do you think he'd accept Noel Edmunds' old helicopter and the Mr Blobby suit instead? |
They could arrange and raffle off a Michael McIntyre Hunger Games experience. They could buy the rights to full Premier League games with the change. |  | | |
| The BBC on 15:56 - Nov 10 with 1891 views | johann28 |
Mmmm. I'm no fan of the BBC and if it were up to me I'd scrap the license fee tomorrow, but Trump's speech that day lasted 80 minutes in which he repeatedly incited a coup (or, at the very least, a violent protest). That the Beeb preci'd his speech so that the general idea of what it was about was condensed into a short 'soundbite' is hardly novel or unusual. All this caving into Trump now is ridiculous imo, and has distraction from Epstein files written all over it. |  | | |
| The BBC on 16:15 - Nov 10 with 1780 views | Beckenhamhoop |
I think BBC News is completely in the grip of a metropolitan liberal mindset. I’m sure that many of its staff think they’re fighting the good fight and that a ‘progressive’ liberal agenda is being on the right side of history and, as bright young things, University educated (often Oxbridge) they know better than the great unwashed. However, I certainly don’t want it defunded/abolished/etc There’s a lot to love about the BBC.
I also think GB News is an absolute disgrace and an embarrassment to British broadcasting. I’m amazed they get away with such a partisan channel which is, in effect, ReformTV.
There….I’m sure I’ve completely alienated all sides of this debate! |  | | |
| The BBC on 16:41 - Nov 10 with 1739 views | colinallcars |
The Beeb are forced to go for viewer ratings or the licence system may well be abolished. Therefore it's a race to the lowest common denominator against the commercial channels.
I would be prepared to pay double or treble the licence fee if the Beeb were the one really respectable channel - so, no Mrs Brown, celeb games shows, junk pop music etc.
OK I'm snobby but that's how I feel. | | | |
| The BBC on 16:51 - Nov 10 with 1691 views | Paddyhoops |
Trump suing the BBC for a Billion quid .
Who’d have thought my license fee would be spent lining that fellas pocket ?
I like the beeb but did they really have to splice two pieces of audios together to make him look like a despotic madman .
He was doing a cracking job without panoramas help. | | | |
| The BBC on 16:57 - Nov 10 with 1678 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The BBC on 15:36 - Nov 10 by Ned_Kennedys |
Can’t be bothered tbf.
The usual suspects have taken ownership of the thread as expected. |
You know you can make an alternative argument, or point, if you've got one? |  | | |
| The BBC on 16:57 - Nov 10 with 1678 views | loftupper |
| The BBC on 16:41 - Nov 10 by colinallcars |
The Beeb are forced to go for viewer ratings or the licence system may well be abolished. Therefore it's a race to the lowest common denominator against the commercial channels.
I would be prepared to pay double or treble the licence fee if the Beeb were the one really respectable channel - so, no Mrs Brown, celeb games shows, junk pop music etc.
OK I'm snobby but that's how I feel. |
24 hour rolling news doesn't really cry out quality to me. But this was Panarama and we should expect better. If a speech is edited but the tone and message remain (within reason) then explain what you have done and why you have done it. We need to be better.
This rush to believe that there is some form of hive mind at work sounds about as ridiculous as grown men using the term MSM. | | | |
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| The BBC on 17:20 - Nov 10 with 1601 views | Juzzie |
| The BBC on 15:56 - Nov 10 by johann28 |
Mmmm. I'm no fan of the BBC and if it were up to me I'd scrap the license fee tomorrow, but Trump's speech that day lasted 80 minutes in which he repeatedly incited a coup (or, at the very least, a violent protest). That the Beeb preci'd his speech so that the general idea of what it was about was condensed into a short 'soundbite' is hardly novel or unusual. All this caving into Trump now is ridiculous imo, and has distraction from Epstein files written all over it. |
I haven't seen the Panorama programme but did they mention the clip was condensed/segmented? If not, that was a bit silly as they way it currently looks, it's ripe for misinterpretation hence the top dogs at the BBC standing down and Trump looking to sue.
Of course it's a distraction, Trump will look at every conceivable possibility to do just that and the Beeb have handed it to him on a plate. |  | | |
| The BBC on 17:29 - Nov 10 with 1539 views | flynnbo |
| The BBC on 15:35 - Nov 10 by Sonic_Hoop |
That's about a fifth of what the BBC adds to our economy. Do you think he'd accept Noel Edmunds' old helicopter and the Mr Blobby suit instead? |
Throw in Greg Wallace and a handful of beans. |  | | |
| The BBC on 17:34 - Nov 10 with 1520 views | londonscottish |
| The BBC on 17:20 - Nov 10 by Juzzie |
I haven't seen the Panorama programme but did they mention the clip was condensed/segmented? If not, that was a bit silly as they way it currently looks, it's ripe for misinterpretation hence the top dogs at the BBC standing down and Trump looking to sue.
Of course it's a distraction, Trump will look at every conceivable possibility to do just that and the Beeb have handed it to him on a plate. |
Absolutely insane. They create actual fake news about a bloke who's built a huge political career on that very issue.
They were obviously so blinded by their own feelings of moral superiority that the end justified the means.
Same problem with the other issues they've been pulled up on. And about time too.
They're not there to moralise, they are there to present both sides of the argument. Period. [Post edited 10 Nov 17:35]
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| The BBC on 17:36 - Nov 10 with 1514 views | Northernr |
The BBC is a mess. It's over staffed, badly run, lurching from one crisis to another, making mistake after mistake. It's also absolute king of self flagellation, allowing itself to be beaten from pilar to post by opponents while constantly going sorry, sorry, sorry, leading News at Ten with apologies about its own coverage while there are literal bloody wars going on. It falls over itself on impartiality every bloody time.
Overall though I still think it's predominantly a force for good. It's programming is revered and respected around the world. It wields an enormous amount of soft power, positively promoting Britain internationally.
In 2024, TV industry revenues were about £20bn in this country. The film and high-end TV production sector was £6.27bn in 2022.
More to the point it employs tens of thousands of people. It is an absolute key cornerstone to the independent production industry which last year was worth £3.6bn to the economy. Of that, £1.78bn came from the BBC, ITV, C4 an C5 commissioning programmes from independent British production companies.
In this country, unlike the rest of the world, anybody can set up a production company if they've got an idea for a show, pitch it to one of those channels, and if they get it away they own it. They own the rights to sell it around the world, not the channel. This is enshrined by the Terms of Trade from 2003. In the US and rest of the world it's the opposite - you have the idea, you make it, the channel that airs it owns it, makes all the revenue selling it abroad, can take it off you and give it to another production company if they like. Here you can build a business making shows for UK broadcasters and selling them around the world in success. It's a whole industry that brings in literally billions of pounds and hundreds of thousands of jobs into our economy.
You allow people who want to kneecap it, or get rid of it entirely, because they don't like it politically, it will be an enormous, enormous mistake.
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| The BBC on 17:37 - Nov 10 with 1502 views | Hooping_Mad |
| The BBC on 15:56 - Nov 10 by johann28 |
Mmmm. I'm no fan of the BBC and if it were up to me I'd scrap the license fee tomorrow, but Trump's speech that day lasted 80 minutes in which he repeatedly incited a coup (or, at the very least, a violent protest). That the Beeb preci'd his speech so that the general idea of what it was about was condensed into a short 'soundbite' is hardly novel or unusual. All this caving into Trump now is ridiculous imo, and has distraction from Epstein files written all over it. |
The way they spliced the clip is a big part of the problem, there are ways of doing it.
It has its own section called 'Verify' that's used to checks its own homework, fairly certain that will have to go now.
Cover for Epstein related activities will further damaged the Beebs reputation.
Davies sat on his hands when he should have been sorting the problem, someone just mentioned Sir Trevor Phillips as a replacment which could be interesting. | |
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| The BBC on 17:42 - Nov 10 with 1479 views | HantsR |
I feel that this was so careless/ unnecessary whatever as Trump's rants are enough to show the intelligent world his many failings and his true motivation that fateful day when 5 people died as a result, whilst he was watching it all on TV rather than doing something to stop it - oh yeah, he eventually made a tweet 
It felt like an unnecessary foul on the edge of the penalty area in the last minute, when the attacker was going nowhere? |  | | |
| The BBC on 18:01 - Nov 10 with 1429 views | Paddyhoops |
I think it’s more important than ever that it stays relevant especially with sky’s likely takeover of a large part of the ITV network.
As Norf said . It’s not perfect but I think it’s good value for money.
It’s obvious that they’re trying to attract younger audiences with prime time reality programs like Stacey and Joe and Honey moon Island or whatever the feck it is .
They’re not for me . Why would they be . I’m 60 .
Living in rural Ireland back in the 70s, we had a great ( Black and white ) reception of the BBC .
Our gaffe was high on a hill and I remember my old man would have all his mates round for match of the day . That’s how I was introduced to the super hoops . Stan ripping it up , big time.
Saturday was always a gem back in those days. Dixon of dock green . Generation game followed by Cilla black show.
Not the same now but hoping it survives. It still bangs out some gems mind but I do apologise wholeheartedly for Mrs Browns boys. | | | |
| The BBC on 18:12 - Nov 10 with 1408 views | EastR |
| The BBC on 18:01 - Nov 10 by Paddyhoops |
I think it’s more important than ever that it stays relevant especially with sky’s likely takeover of a large part of the ITV network.
As Norf said . It’s not perfect but I think it’s good value for money.
It’s obvious that they’re trying to attract younger audiences with prime time reality programs like Stacey and Joe and Honey moon Island or whatever the feck it is .
They’re not for me . Why would they be . I’m 60 .
Living in rural Ireland back in the 70s, we had a great ( Black and white ) reception of the BBC .
Our gaffe was high on a hill and I remember my old man would have all his mates round for match of the day . That’s how I was introduced to the super hoops . Stan ripping it up , big time.
Saturday was always a gem back in those days. Dixon of dock green . Generation game followed by Cilla black show.
Not the same now but hoping it survives. It still bangs out some gems mind but I do apologise wholeheartedly for Mrs Browns boys. |
Unless your name is Brendan or you're from north Dublin you've no need to apologise for that bag of sh1te. | |
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| The BBC on 18:25 - Nov 10 with 1367 views | charmr |
Think about what the media is like here in the states before you all get your knickers in a twist about the BBC. | | | |
| The BBC (n/t) on 18:27 - Nov 10 with 1356 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| The BBC on 18:12 - Nov 10 by EastR |
Unless your name is Brendan or you're from north Dublin you've no need to apologise for that bag of sh1te. |
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| The BBC on 18:28 - Nov 10 with 1349 views | Benny_the_Ball |
I'm more concerned with the BBC sacking whoever commissioned Mrs Brown's Boys and Miranda and consigning both shows to Room 101. | | | |
| The BBC on 19:13 - Nov 10 with 1243 views | charmr |
I’m also concerned giving Wayne Rooney a voice and it all over the fing football page on it sports website. Who the fcuk cares what he thinks. [Post edited 10 Nov 19:29]
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| The BBC on 19:36 - Nov 10 with 1174 views | Hooping_Mad |
| The BBC on 19:13 - Nov 10 by charmr |
I’m also concerned giving Wayne Rooney a voice and it all over the fing football page on it sports website. Who the fcuk cares what he thinks. [Post edited 10 Nov 19:29]
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His trainer? | |
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| The BBC on 19:46 - Nov 10 with 1132 views | BushRanger82 |
The BBC is not what it was.
If it goes, I won't miss it. |  | | |
| The BBC on 19:53 - Nov 10 with 1117 views | Paddyhoops |
| The BBC on 18:12 - Nov 10 by EastR |
Unless your name is Brendan or you're from north Dublin you've no need to apologise for that bag of sh1te. |
Funny enough I do know a Brendan from North Dublin 🤣 | | | |
| The BBC on 19:54 - Nov 10 with 1122 views | MrSheen |
Radio 3 is the glory of the BBC, even if it used to be better, and I would pay a subscription fee as big as the licence fee to keep it going. The rest…apart from Test Match Special and the archive, I hardly ever bother with it now, amazing as I grew up with my Mum listening to Radio 4 all day and then decades of football and boxing commentary.
Employing Katie Razzall as your media and culture editor, and having her lead an in-house counter-attack, helps make the critics’ case of systemic bias for them.
https://thecritic.co.uk/newsnight-and-the-rapist/ |  | | |
| The BBC on 20:45 - Nov 10 with 1025 views | Sonic_Hoop |
| The BBC on 14:53 - Nov 10 by Boston |
Win them over, for what reason? |
Appeasement. You'd think they'd learn from history. | | | |
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