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Countdown to the end of Democracy in the UK 23:28 - Nov 10 with 797289 viewspikeypaul



And like a typical anti democracy remoaner he decided the will of the people should be ignored the minute the democratic result was in total fecking hypocrite 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Despite it being voted in to law by the commons the spineless two faced remoaner MPs have totally abandoned any morals and decided to ignore the will of the British people.

It will be remembered and no election or referendum will ever be the same again in this country.

The one thing that will come is a massive surge in the popularity of UKIP or a similar party in the future who stand for the 52%.

Happy Days.

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The Countdown begins. on 10:23 - Mar 13 with 533 viewsDafyddHuw

When all this shite is finally done and dusted, we need to change our voting system from first past the post.

This two-party bollocks is making us the laughing stock of Europe.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:25 - Mar 13 with 531 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 00:27 - Mar 13 by PozuelosSideys

I painfully agree with almost all of that. Just waiting for Corbyn to come along and finish us all off.


The bloke is utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly feckin inept.

People talking about a GE now. What's the point? It'll end in even more of a hung parliament and we're back to square 1 again. It'd be a miracle if Corbyn got in; not after his performances since the last GE, nevermind anti semite-gate.

What a time to be alive eh?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:47 - Mar 13 with 514 viewsunion_jack

I’ve no doubt now that May will go for a third meaningful vote either before 29/3 or ask the EU for a short extension.

Nothing in the deal will change I imagine but I think she’ll get it through on the grounds that parliament will see it as the best of the three options realistically open to her - her deal, no deal or 2nd referendum.

So, she can table her deal as many times as she likes until it gets through but won’t countenance a second referendum because that would be anti-democratic.

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The Countdown begins. on 10:54 - Mar 13 with 503 viewsunion_jack

I’ve had an idea.

We should have a referendum and the binary question would be:

Do you want a second referendum to stay in or leave the EU? Yes / no.

That will be a democratic way of assessing the will of the people. If yes, the chances are the 2nd referendum would then be to stay in the EU. All very democratic🤣

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The Countdown begins. on 11:10 - Mar 13 with 493 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 10:23 - Mar 13 by DafyddHuw

When all this shite is finally done and dusted, we need to change our voting system from first past the post.

This two-party bollocks is making us the laughing stock of Europe.


I’m not sure what the alternative would be, PR is riddled with its own problems but yeah something needs to change. Safe seats are the rotten boroughs of our time.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Poll: The official planetswans European election poll. Your vote goes to?

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The Countdown begins. on 11:17 - Mar 13 with 485 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 10:25 - Mar 13 by LeonWasGod

The bloke is utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly, utterly feckin inept.

People talking about a GE now. What's the point? It'll end in even more of a hung parliament and we're back to square 1 again. It'd be a miracle if Corbyn got in; not after his performances since the last GE, nevermind anti semite-gate.

What a time to be alive eh?


Corbyn still thinks he can come up with a better deal that can not only be agreed with the EU, but also get parliament to gather round and agree to.

His fantasy is up there in terms of delusion with the most ardent quitters who thought the EU member states would give us a better deal than they currently have themselves, or those who think going "WTO" will not have catastrophic consequences to this country.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:19 - Mar 13 with 481 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 10:23 - Mar 13 by DafyddHuw

When all this shite is finally done and dusted, we need to change our voting system from first past the post.

This two-party bollocks is making us the laughing stock of Europe.


Not being funny, but we had a Refrendum on switching to a more proportional system a number of years (4??) ago, and it was soundly turned down. It was a Lib Dem policy when they were in Coalition.

Poll: Live in a country with no internet?

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The Countdown begins. on 11:40 - Mar 13 with 454 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 11:17 - Mar 13 by Batterseajack

Corbyn still thinks he can come up with a better deal that can not only be agreed with the EU, but also get parliament to gather round and agree to.

His fantasy is up there in terms of delusion with the most ardent quitters who thought the EU member states would give us a better deal than they currently have themselves, or those who think going "WTO" will not have catastrophic consequences to this country.


He's totally deluded. How could any leader of the opposition watch the Tory failures and then think 'that's a good idea, I'll try some more of that'?

I just don't see the point to him. They had some interesting policies in their last manifesto that should appeal to a lot of people. But they go too far, are too toxic, run by nutjobs behind the scenes, and are completely ineffectual in opposition. I can't see them ever securing a majority.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:43 - Mar 13 with 448 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 11:19 - Mar 13 by westwalesed

Not being funny, but we had a Refrendum on switching to a more proportional system a number of years (4??) ago, and it was soundly turned down. It was a Lib Dem policy when they were in Coalition.


That referendum was on AV+ which isn’t proportional representation and in some extreme cases can actually make the lack of proportionality worse. The commitment to proper PR was one of the many policies the libdems abandoned or watered down in their rush to share power with Cameron. AV+ was rejected because a - it was crap, b - it was only marginally better than the current shambles of a system and c - because it was so closely associated with the libdems, who everyone hated.

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The Countdown begins. on 11:44 - Mar 13 with 448 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 11:40 - Mar 13 by LeonWasGod

He's totally deluded. How could any leader of the opposition watch the Tory failures and then think 'that's a good idea, I'll try some more of that'?

I just don't see the point to him. They had some interesting policies in their last manifesto that should appeal to a lot of people. But they go too far, are too toxic, run by nutjobs behind the scenes, and are completely ineffectual in opposition. I can't see them ever securing a majority.


He doesn't want an orderly Brexit, I would surmise he wants a disorderly and as chaotic a Brexit as possible, because you'll only get a full blown Marxist/Leninist revolution if their is total chaos in the country.

Poll: Live in a country with no internet?

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The Countdown begins. on 11:51 - Mar 13 with 439 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 11:44 - Mar 13 by westwalesed

He doesn't want an orderly Brexit, I would surmise he wants a disorderly and as chaotic a Brexit as possible, because you'll only get a full blown Marxist/Leninist revolution if their is total chaos in the country.


Ha, there'd be no chance of getting a revolution going. Love Island is on (or BGT, or Strictly). A revolution sounds like effort.
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The Countdown begins. on 11:57 - Mar 13 with 432 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 11:51 - Mar 13 by LeonWasGod

Ha, there'd be no chance of getting a revolution going. Love Island is on (or BGT, or Strictly). A revolution sounds like effort.


True!

I know there are many on here who disagree with my views on Brexit, but I'm going on that Leave Means Leave March on 29th. I'm not a natural protester, but as I said to my friend the other day, "if my Grandfather can run at bullets on French beaches for our sovereignty I'm bloody sure I can go on a walk in London!"

You're right though, people are generally dulled by TV etc

Poll: Live in a country with no internet?

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The Countdown begins. on 12:09 - Mar 13 with 422 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 22:03 - Mar 11 by Batterseajack

A great tool to show you how much you personally pay into the EU each year.

https://euworthit.uk/


Anyone tried plugging their salary into this tool to see what their personal annual contribution is to fund the EU? Kind of puts this whole fuss into perspective

If you earn £35k a year, you pay £7,819 in Tax and NICs each year, of which a whopping £54.73 goes to the fat cats at Brussels.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:27 - Mar 13 with 404 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 12:09 - Mar 13 by Batterseajack

Anyone tried plugging their salary into this tool to see what their personal annual contribution is to fund the EU? Kind of puts this whole fuss into perspective

If you earn £35k a year, you pay £7,819 in Tax and NICs each year, of which a whopping £54.73 goes to the fat cats at Brussels.
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Given the URL, I'm assuming it may be slightly biased.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:36 - Mar 13 with 391 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 12:27 - Mar 13 by bluey_the_blue

Given the URL, I'm assuming it may be slightly biased.


Biased? Its either right or wrong.
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The Countdown begins. on 12:52 - Mar 13 with 377 viewslonglostjack

The Countdown begins. on 12:09 - Mar 13 by Batterseajack

Anyone tried plugging their salary into this tool to see what their personal annual contribution is to fund the EU? Kind of puts this whole fuss into perspective

If you earn £35k a year, you pay £7,819 in Tax and NICs each year, of which a whopping £54.73 goes to the fat cats at Brussels.
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How much of that goes towards Farage's pension?

Poll: Brexit. Which would you choose?

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The Countdown begins. on 13:01 - Mar 13 with 361 viewsmajorraglan

We are now looking at scrapping some tariffs for incoming goods. I appreciate it will stop the price of goods in the shops and to our factories going up, but I can’t see it doing the country much good when it comes to trade negotiations if we are already letting other the other counties goods in tariff free when our exporters sending goods the other way are incurring tariffs. We are totally unprepared for No deal. Shambles.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:02 - Mar 13 with 357 viewsBatterseajack

The Countdown begins. on 12:52 - Mar 13 by longlostjack

How much of that goes towards Farage's pension?


Less than a penny a year i imagine, but that's still too much.

I wonder if that blithering tw@t will be running to be an MEP again in the forthcoming undemocratic EU elections this summer?
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The Countdown begins. on 13:20 - Mar 13 with 328 viewswestwalesed

The Countdown begins. on 12:09 - Mar 13 by Batterseajack

Anyone tried plugging their salary into this tool to see what their personal annual contribution is to fund the EU? Kind of puts this whole fuss into perspective

If you earn £35k a year, you pay £7,819 in Tax and NICs each year, of which a whopping £54.73 goes to the fat cats at Brussels.
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It’s not about money it’s about sovereignty.

Poll: Live in a country with no internet?

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The Countdown begins. on 13:22 - Mar 13 with 320 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 13:20 - Mar 13 by westwalesed

It’s not about money it’s about sovereignty.


Good. No need for anything to happen then, as we've never lost that.
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The Countdown begins. on 13:32 - Mar 13 with 300 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 13:20 - Mar 13 by westwalesed

It’s not about money it’s about sovereignty.


There is absolutely no effect on our sovereignty. None.

Whereas I genuinely admire anyone willing to get off their bum and march, equating that with our grandparents’ generation fighting in the last war is completely misguided, however romantic a notion it sounds.

Forgive me if I’ve misremembered, but aren’t you on the verge of opening a pub in Pembs? Don’t you want access for overseas visitors to be as easy as possible in a county which relies on tourism as a huge part of its economy and relies on overseas workers to support that sector? And the impact of Brexit on farmers in that region has been shown to be horrific. Just this week the Welsh lamb farmers have been saying they’re terrified of the impact. If the economy goes south, people are hardly going to increase their discretionary spend by eating and drinking at your new place?
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The Countdown begins. on 13:37 - Mar 13 with 289 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Get on with it !

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The Countdown begin on 13:39 - Mar 13 with 280 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 13:37 - Mar 13 by oh_tommy_tommy

Get on with it !


Happy to cast aside Labour Party policy then tommy? Thought you were all about democracy? Not that democracy maybe?

Anyone that cares about the plight of the worst off and wants Brexit really doesn’t understand.
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The Countdown begin on 13:42 - Mar 13 with 276 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

The Countdown begin on 13:39 - Mar 13 by londonlisa2001

Happy to cast aside Labour Party policy then tommy? Thought you were all about democracy? Not that democracy maybe?

Anyone that cares about the plight of the worst off and wants Brexit really doesn’t understand.


I’m a remainer Lovely Lisa

But I’m on the side of democracy

Leave won

Tory’s need to step aside

Labour will deliver a soft brexit

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The Countdown begins. on 13:47 - Mar 13 with 269 viewsbluey_the_blue

The Countdown begins. on 12:36 - Mar 13 by Batterseajack

Biased? Its either right or wrong.


Whois reveals no details of who owns the domain name. Site owner doesn't make themselves known either - so who created it, who was behind the site and why are they so evasive?

The sit itself I doubt has become mainstream enough to independently assessed; it seems to have looked at government details, made the odd assumption without exposing it's methodology for calculating.

From the FAQ it urges you to use a JavaScript interface to see the calculation. Eh, my JavaScript is rusty so I'll come back to that.

From the site you can see the benefits of being in EU and whoda thunk it - a link for you to contact your MP. This takes to to https://hey-mp.uk - a site set up for you to work out your MP based upon supplied postcode ( not prone to abuse whatsoever ).

Entered a false postcode ( not having you stalkers turn up on my doorstep ) and voila...

https://hey-mp.uk/hey/stephen-doughty?f&#Grangetown|CF11%200AA



Now it's become clear. Site telling people they don't really pay much to EU and hey isn't the EU really wonderful is a front organised by Best for Britain.

So why the secrecy on the euworthit.uk?
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