| Stadium deal agreed 10:01 - Feb 17 with 64656 views | Dr_Winston |
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 20:31 - Feb 19 with 2681 views | Phil_S |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:02 - Feb 19 by Uxbridge |
No offence taken in the slightest. And I understand the concern. I'd say it's p1ssed me off but to be honest it's only cemented things in my mind. There's only one path from here. |
Indeed there is. But you knew I would agree with that, was there several months ago  |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:32 - Feb 19 with 2670 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:27 - Feb 19 by Shaky |
Good corporate governance means having things clearly set out.
And the extent to which the club can share condidential information with the Trust board is an important issue I first raised when Laudrup was sacked.
To me it seems obvious that this is an area in need of clarity.
And I don't agree with your suggestion that confidential information here is not price sensitive. What if news leaks that the club is considering a major signing or sale? That could have significant implications for market prices. |
Again, I didn't say it wasn't. I said I didn't know offhand.
As I said, the SD doesn't circulate board papers routinely (or at least not to my knowledge). I was talking about specific issues. All information is treated as completely confidential. But as you well know I used the term price sensitive in its usual sense. |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:34 - Feb 19 with 2659 views | monmouth |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:31 - Feb 19 by Phil_S |
Indeed there is. But you knew I would agree with that, was there several months ago |
And only six months after some others....
Well, you started it. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 20:39 - Feb 19 with 2638 views | Phil_S |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:34 - Feb 19 by monmouth |
And only six months after some others....
Well, you started it. |
Indeed...
And others wont be there yet...
I will always maintain that the right thing to do was to do everything possible to forge a working relationship first and foremost. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:46 - Feb 19 with 2617 views | Shaky |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:39 - Feb 19 by Phil_S |
Indeed...
And others wont be there yet...
I will always maintain that the right thing to do was to do everything possible to forge a working relationship first and foremost. |
As you appeared to initially recognise when you early on issued your multi-ultimatums that were subsequently binned, unless that relationship was based on a legal footing it was always going to be unsustainable.
In many ways it is very lucky indeed that has become apparent in such a short period of time. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:05 - Feb 19 with 2574 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Stadium deal agreed on 17:50 - Feb 19 by londonlisa2001 |
The Trust is entitled to comment back to the main board and vote.
It may be neither here nor there, as it can be outvoted but it should in my view, then make the position clear to members which would or could inform future actions. |
why didn't you know?, please dont say because i wasnt told? you know that only washes where ECB works |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:06 - Feb 19 with 2566 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:05 - Feb 19 by Bobby_Fischer |
why didn't you know?, please dont say because i wasnt told? you know that only washes where ECB works |
Another one. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:13 - Feb 19 with 2548 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:02 - Feb 19 by Uxbridge |
No offence taken in the slightest. And I understand the concern. I'd say it's p1ssed me off but to be honest it's only cemented things in my mind. There's only one path from here. |
So watcha gonna do, shall we still build a bridges like you told us to? | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:17 - Feb 19 with 2538 views | TheResurrection |
| Stadium deal agreed on 19:55 - Feb 19 by MoscowJack |
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Apologies if I did in any way. I just didn't see you as a networker working a room. Sorry.
I agree that the devil's in the detail and, in nearly all of the lease agreements that I've been involved, the moment I thought I had my head around it an expert teared it to threads.
That's why the Trust should be extremely worried. We have no idea what the Yanks have signed off on. It could be horrendous, or could be absolutely wonderful....we have no idea.
The fact that the Trust doesn't have this info (or do just a couple of Trust people have it) is embarrassing and infuriating. The Yanks bought DC United, added a fancy new stadium and lead them to the heights of bottom of the table. Maybe they haven't finished with us yet....we're still not bottom!
I know I've been over-reacting a bit but the stance of the Yanks (completely ignoring the Trust...again!) and the lack of reaction from the Trust (which is an insult to the fans) has p!ssed me right off.
The stadium isn't a little deal with a local vending machine company or suchlike....it's the bloody stadium we play in!!! |
I tried to network with him the other week in the Mens bog's in the Liberty. He doffed his hat and moved on pretty sharpish ;-) |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:18 - Feb 19 with 2530 views | airedale |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:22 - Feb 19 by londonlisa2001 |
Lol.
Like Clasie, I declared upfront that I didn't want to avail myself of that. |
I’ll sit there if you don’t fancy it. I’ll even drink a gin and tonic if I have to. |  | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:19 - Feb 19 with 2524 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:17 - Feb 19 by TheResurrection |
I tried to network with him the other week in the Mens bog's in the Liberty. He doffed his hat and moved on pretty sharpish ;-) |
His son bangs the drum though. | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:22 - Feb 19 with 2506 views | TheResurrection |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:19 - Feb 19 by Bobby_Fischer |
His son bangs the drum though. |
Its his son in law, Steve, a good guy, but that's Stu Mac
I was talking about Alan Sugar, sorry, I meant Andrew Godden ;-) | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:24 - Feb 19 with 2494 views | E20Jack |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:06 - Feb 19 by Shaky |
That's it, let the paranoid nonsense flow.
You don't even have a viable conspiracy theory as to who you believe is defrauding who. Merely a vague notion that something dastardly is afoot, and that Lisa can clear it up.
What a joke.
Here's some light reading from the real world for you:
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Spanish football clubs to repay tens of millions in illegal state subsidies
Real Madrid and FC Barcelona among teams Brussels finds guilty of unfair competition after receiving state finance
Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and five other Spanish football clubs must repay tens of millions of euros in illegal state subsidies, after the EU executive found they had received unfair financial aid from their government.
Real Madrid, the world’s top-earning football club, will have to repay €18.4m (£15.4m), after the European commission judged that an overpriced land deal with local authorities in the Spanish capital was unfairly tilted in the club’s favour.
Separately, an investigation into five Dutch clubs, including PSV Eindhoven, was closed after the commission said no EU rules had been broken.
The European commission, which is the enforcer of EU law, said football was an economic activity and that it had a duty to ensure a level playing field between sports companies.
Full story: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/04/spanish-football-clubs-repay-te |
Shaky accusing someone of being paranoid is like Cousin It calling someone too hairy 
I thought I had read it all on here. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:24 - Feb 19 with 2493 views | swancity |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:22 - Feb 19 by TheResurrection |
Its his son in law, Steve, a good guy, but that's Stu Mac
I was talking about Alan Sugar, sorry, I meant Andrew Godden ;-) |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 21:32 - Feb 19 with 2462 views | QJumpingJack |
Will the Trust be releasing a statement on the stadium ownership?
And how many Trust board members are there? Perhaps it is time for the board to be reduced in size so any important decisions can be discussed quickly and easily. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:37 - Feb 19 with 2453 views | Lord_Bony |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:32 - Feb 19 by QJumpingJack |
Will the Trust be releasing a statement on the stadium ownership?
And how many Trust board members are there? Perhaps it is time for the board to be reduced in size so any important decisions can be discussed quickly and easily. |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 22:10 - Feb 19 with 2379 views | Quincy999 |
The Trust definately should use the ticket in the Directors box and the aim should be to influence the other Directors.
The best way to do this in my mind would be to invite a shit hot hypnotist to take that seat one saturday. He could hypnotise one of the fùckers around the buffett table.
Wouldn't it be great to see Huw clucking around the box thinking he was a chicken every time a certain chant was sung. | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 22:13 - Feb 19 with 2369 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Stadium deal agreed on 19:33 - Feb 19 by TheResurrection |
Hang on, do they?
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Because my experience is they do nothing of the sort and Shaky is just being a bit of a smug know it all.
And maybe he could answer this, if the Trust weren't getting satisfactory responses from the Americans why couldn't it go straight to the Council and play holy hell there? |
No they don’t Chris. I worded it poorly and my point was that however much noise the Trust makes the Americans don’t have to listen to any of it and probably won’t.
The Trust making a lot of noise may have helped get a lot more supporters on board and aware of the situation because in my experience talking to people apathy is rife amongst the wider fan base. Maybe if the Trust had shouted loud enough and long enough that would have been different.
Then we’re back to the right time to act and instigate legal proceedings. |  |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 22:15 - Feb 19 with 2364 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:22 - Feb 19 by TheResurrection |
Its his son in law, Steve, a good guy, but that's Stu Mac
I was talking about Alan Sugar, sorry, I meant Andrew Godden ;-) |
Now that is funny. | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 22:23 - Feb 19 with 2340 views | BillyChong |
| Stadium deal agreed on 20:02 - Feb 19 by Uxbridge |
No offence taken in the slightest. And I understand the concern. I'd say it's p1ssed me off but to be honest it's only cemented things in my mind. There's only one path from here. |
A good year or so too late | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 22:33 - Feb 19 with 2310 views | TheResurrection |
| Stadium deal agreed on 21:24 - Feb 19 by E20Jack |
Shaky accusing someone of being paranoid is like Cousin It calling someone too hairy
I thought I had read it all on here. |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 22:45 - Feb 19 with 2269 views | ZZoric |
| Stadium deal agreed on 22:17 - Feb 17 by ZZoric |
hang on - there are 2 new appointees - posting on here, claiming they know nothing - wtf ?
why arent they chomping at the bit to proactively engage ?
all so very weak, passive and pointless |
....and yet still all so passive, weak and utterly pointless
stop hiding behind endless paragraphs of defensive diatribe - time to p#ss or get the f#ck off - the last thing we need is hangers-on hanging around. hang ur heads in shame new appointees
finance affiliate ? - back-office at best - get on the front foot and drive | | | |
| Stadium deal agreed on 22:49 - Feb 19 with 2257 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Stadium deal agreed on 18:23 - Feb 19 by monmouth |
There should be no vote. There ae not two serious and viable options, not even for lickspittle poodles that enjoy their 'status'. Just get the court date set. |
Of course there has to be a vote.
How can the Trust justify legal action without a mandate from its members having already previously taken a vote where legal action was rejected? The Trust has to show that due to a change in stance by the Americans there has been a change in the mandate from its members. Whether the Trust legally requires a mandate or not it would be mocked in court without a vote for legal action by a majority of its members. | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 23:03 - Feb 19 with 2227 views | monmouth |
| Stadium deal agreed on 22:49 - Feb 19 by Joe_bradshaw |
Of course there has to be a vote.
How can the Trust justify legal action without a mandate from its members having already previously taken a vote where legal action was rejected? The Trust has to show that due to a change in stance by the Americans there has been a change in the mandate from its members. Whether the Trust legally requires a mandate or not it would be mocked in court without a vote for legal action by a majority of its members. |
Legal action wasn't rejected, the deal was accepted. The Americans have unilaterally reneged from the deal. There is no deal. And you think the Trust would be mocked in court?
But yes, ok. The "vote" should simply be to ratify the Trust Board's intention in pursuing a just and fair outcome through the only realistic course of action remaining. | |
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| Stadium deal agreed on 23:20 - Feb 19 with 2205 views | Lord_Bony |
| Stadium deal agreed on 22:49 - Feb 19 by Joe_bradshaw |
Of course there has to be a vote.
How can the Trust justify legal action without a mandate from its members having already previously taken a vote where legal action was rejected? The Trust has to show that due to a change in stance by the Americans there has been a change in the mandate from its members. Whether the Trust legally requires a mandate or not it would be mocked in court without a vote for legal action by a majority of its members. |
The structure needs to be changed because most of its members who have to vote
(Football fans),haven't got a farkin clue of what's happening or the legal technicalities involved in such issues.
If we won the match just before the vote then in their eyes everything is just dandy.
We need leadership and decisiveness from the top...and we need it now today. | |
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