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BBC Question Time 12:51 - Jun 18 with 3798 viewsLohengrin

I’ve finally had chance to watch the episode that aired on the 14th and find myself getting more and more frustrated with the format of what used to be the Beeb’s flagship politics programme. It’s in need of a good shake-up.

How much better had it simply consisted of a debate between John Mann and Dominic Grieve with David Dimbleby in the chair? An informed pro-Brexit view from the left and its obverse from the right with all the screen-time eating frippery and distraction stripped away.

As it was I wasted over half the programme hitting the fast-forward button getting to the segments of any worth. The audience was the first to go. Isabel Oakeshott, ever decorous but in this context dispensable; Matthew Wright, this week’s token non-politico making the invariably pointless contribution; Leanne Wood, Penygraig’s platitude-mumbling numbskull illustrating perfectly why calling polytechnics universities doesn’t make it so.

The purpose of a programme like that ought to be to provoke and inform, not to parade a selection of cliches. The place where, as Runciman said, ”the truth goes to die.”

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BBC Question Time on 18:02 - Jun 18 with 1212 viewslondonlisa2001

BBC Question Time on 17:39 - Jun 18 by Lohengrin

She’s not a hack, though. Didn’t she say so on the programme?


Yes. Despite having described herself as a hack on previous occasions.

Dimbleby was most put out as well and strenuous in his defence of her.

Actually that bloke in the audience was one of the best bits of the show last week. Quite transparently not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination, when he said ‘I’d rather listen to a legally trained Conservative than a tabloid hack’ or words to that effect, it was fantastic.

Quite why she is so loved by the Beeb to receive such frequent airtime is beyond me. You’d have a better informed opinion from the pigeon that’s currently taunting my dog in the garden.

There is a real issue though that people like Grieve who is well informed, thoughtful and, indeed clever (whatever your politics) is given a false equivalence with people like Isabel Oakeshott who is none of those things (whatever your politics). It kills any sense of political debate as even the clever ones resort to sound bites as that’s what the increasingly vacuous public latch onto to make themselves feel like they’re up-to-speed.

Look at the nonsense about a ‘brexit dividend’. It’s utter bollox, yet because it’s a catchy sound bite people grab hold of it with the desperation of a drowning man grabbing hold of a passing stick.
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BBC Question Time on 18:10 - Jun 18 with 1199 viewsDarran

BBC Question Time on 17:49 - Jun 18 by Lohengrin

He’s paid you to say that, hasn’t he??

I would have gone over and cut it today if the weather wasn’t so shit. I’ll give it a bash if I get a chance midweek. I’ll call in after that, get some tidy biscuits in!


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BBC Question Time on 18:29 - Jun 18 with 1183 viewslondonlisa2001

BBC Question Time on 18:10 - Jun 18 by Darran

If the Bentleys on the drive I’m in.


It’s like the Royal Standard flying over the Palace.
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BBC Question Time on 21:15 - Jun 18 with 1141 viewsDarran

BBC Question Time on 18:29 - Jun 18 by londonlisa2001

It’s like the Royal Standard flying over the Palace.


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BBC Question Time on 21:34 - Jun 18 with 1150 viewstheloneranger

BBC Question Time on 21:15 - Jun 18 by Darran

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BBC Question Time on 22:13 - Jun 18 with 1124 viewsKilkennyjack

BBC Question Time on 18:02 - Jun 18 by londonlisa2001

Yes. Despite having described herself as a hack on previous occasions.

Dimbleby was most put out as well and strenuous in his defence of her.

Actually that bloke in the audience was one of the best bits of the show last week. Quite transparently not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination, when he said ‘I’d rather listen to a legally trained Conservative than a tabloid hack’ or words to that effect, it was fantastic.

Quite why she is so loved by the Beeb to receive such frequent airtime is beyond me. You’d have a better informed opinion from the pigeon that’s currently taunting my dog in the garden.

There is a real issue though that people like Grieve who is well informed, thoughtful and, indeed clever (whatever your politics) is given a false equivalence with people like Isabel Oakeshott who is none of those things (whatever your politics). It kills any sense of political debate as even the clever ones resort to sound bites as that’s what the increasingly vacuous public latch onto to make themselves feel like they’re up-to-speed.

Look at the nonsense about a ‘brexit dividend’. It’s utter bollox, yet because it’s a catchy sound bite people grab hold of it with the desperation of a drowning man grabbing hold of a passing stick.


Totally agree.

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BBC Question Time on 09:09 - Jun 19 with 1027 viewsBadlands

Haven't watched the UKIP show for a few years.
Was Farage or one of his minions who currently attract 1.7% of the electorate's support allowed an hour long hate rant?

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BBC Question Time on 11:32 - Jun 19 with 997 viewsjack_lord

BBC Question Time on 18:02 - Jun 18 by londonlisa2001

Yes. Despite having described herself as a hack on previous occasions.

Dimbleby was most put out as well and strenuous in his defence of her.

Actually that bloke in the audience was one of the best bits of the show last week. Quite transparently not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination, when he said ‘I’d rather listen to a legally trained Conservative than a tabloid hack’ or words to that effect, it was fantastic.

Quite why she is so loved by the Beeb to receive such frequent airtime is beyond me. You’d have a better informed opinion from the pigeon that’s currently taunting my dog in the garden.

There is a real issue though that people like Grieve who is well informed, thoughtful and, indeed clever (whatever your politics) is given a false equivalence with people like Isabel Oakeshott who is none of those things (whatever your politics). It kills any sense of political debate as even the clever ones resort to sound bites as that’s what the increasingly vacuous public latch onto to make themselves feel like they’re up-to-speed.

Look at the nonsense about a ‘brexit dividend’. It’s utter bollox, yet because it’s a catchy sound bite people grab hold of it with the desperation of a drowning man grabbing hold of a passing stick.


Unfortunately sensible debate isn't what the people are stimulated by.

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BBC Question Time on 12:12 - Jun 19 with 983 viewsGwyn737

BBC Question Time on 14:38 - Jun 18 by monmouth

It does nursing I believe, Loh, so may cover some of the others, but it is not just a specialist institution. In those areas it is more about training than a genuine university (wider contextual critical evaluation) education. if You are asking about comparing it with Glamorgan or whatever they are since chumming up with Newport, then I would say it’s a class above. To illustrate my point on the so called TEF though, Swansea Met finished above Southampton I believe.

Fact is you can’t measure what matters, and so the measurements are fairly useless proxies. Universities are being turned into extensions of schools, with spoon fed materials, passing exams and grade inflation the order of the day, plus ‘fat cat profit driven business discipline’. Genuine education is largely being forgotten. You have probably read more books in the last year....actually let’s just say opened more books than either student cohort I have dealt with over the same period. Maybe I’m being unkind to the many excellent committed students, but immediate google gratification without thinking is now a ubiquitous first port of call.
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This.

When accountability measures are so high stakes - whether this be league tables for attainment, student satisfaction or just having a Starbucks on campus - you end taking responsibility away from students.

This leads to all the spoon feeding and reputation management we now see. It's pertinent to both HE and schools.
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BBC Question Time on 12:40 - Nov 8 with 592 viewsAquinas

Jordan Peterson and Diane Abbott on tonight.

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BBC Question Time on 12:48 - Nov 8 with 581 viewsHighjack

BBC Question Time on 12:40 - Nov 8 by Aquinas

Jordan Peterson and Diane Abbott on tonight.



Oh good.


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BBC Question Time on 13:21 - Nov 8 with 558 viewsWarwickHunt

BBC Question Time on 12:40 - Nov 8 by Aquinas

Jordan Peterson and Diane Abbott on tonight.



That might at least offer some light relief from the usual twàtfest.
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BBC Question Time on 13:24 - Nov 8 with 553 viewsswanjackal

BBC Question Time on 12:48 - Nov 8 by Highjack

Oh good.



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BBC Question Time on 13:56 - Nov 8 with 530 viewspikeypaul

BBC Question Time on 13:24 - Nov 8 by swanjackal

I'm loosening my slacks at the thought of column 1, row 3.


The one that “it” used to seduce Steptoe?

Can you imagine the wreck that scraggy tramp and the obese mathematical genius would produce?

Anyway got my bingo card printed off ready for tonight for once the thick bitch will give us some entertainment.
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BBC Question Time on 18:10 - Nov 8 with 464 viewsGreatBritton

BBC Question Time on 14:38 - Jun 18 by monmouth

It does nursing I believe, Loh, so may cover some of the others, but it is not just a specialist institution. In those areas it is more about training than a genuine university (wider contextual critical evaluation) education. if You are asking about comparing it with Glamorgan or whatever they are since chumming up with Newport, then I would say it’s a class above. To illustrate my point on the so called TEF though, Swansea Met finished above Southampton I believe.

Fact is you can’t measure what matters, and so the measurements are fairly useless proxies. Universities are being turned into extensions of schools, with spoon fed materials, passing exams and grade inflation the order of the day, plus ‘fat cat profit driven business discipline’. Genuine education is largely being forgotten. You have probably read more books in the last year....actually let’s just say opened more books than either student cohort I have dealt with over the same period. Maybe I’m being unkind to the many excellent committed students, but immediate google gratification without thinking is now a ubiquitous first port of call.
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"Swansea Met finished above Southampton"

Jesus wept. Southampton must be worse than their football team.
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BBC Question Time on 21:21 - Nov 8 with 419 viewsCatullus

BBC Question Time on 13:47 - Jun 18 by Lohengrin

Another thing, just as an aside, are you able to pin-point how and why ‘elite’ has become a pejorative term?

I couldn’t begin to count the number of things I don’t understand in 2018, but that’s one I continually scratch my head over.


I think it happened when gaining wealth became seen as more important than honesty, honour or integrity and that being rich enabled you to get away with almost anything.

People with a lot of money can sometimes consider themselves to be in the elite even when they are total scumbags and I'll put Tony Blair up as my nomination for that position!

As for QT, I gave up on it ages ago though Oakeshott is quite welcome to be the future ex Mrs Catullus.

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BBC Question Time on 21:30 - Nov 8 with 404 viewslonglostjack

BBC Question Time on 09:09 - Jun 19 by Badlands

Haven't watched the UKIP show for a few years.
Was Farage or one of his minions who currently attract 1.7% of the electorate's support allowed an hour long hate rant?


Bang on. Dimbleby is well past his sell-by date.

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BBC Question Time on 22:58 - Nov 8 with 373 viewspikeypaul

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Bottom row .

That did not take long.

Now for the house, come on bitch say those words.

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BBC Question Time on 23:15 - Nov 8 with 352 viewspikeypaul

Now she’s defending the murdering scum who go around sticking knives in people.

If it was white people sticking knives into people would she be defending them?

No doubt we will have the pathetic lefties on here agreeing with her.

It’s laughable.

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BBC Question Time on 23:15 - Nov 8 with 352 viewslifelong

That bloke in the audience had a slightly controversial view, reckoned those that carry knives should be exterminated.
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BBC Question Time on 23:40 - Nov 8 with 335 viewspikeypaul

So funny watching the desperation and bitterness of the 80% Remoaner panel.

No problem guys come next spring we will be out and they can bitch about something else.

Happy days

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BBC Question Time on 00:12 - Nov 9 with 311 viewsKilkennyjack

BBC Question Time on 23:40 - Nov 8 by pikeypaul

So funny watching the desperation and bitterness of the 80% Remoaner panel.

No problem guys come next spring we will be out and they can bitch about something else.

Happy days

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And then the young people will vote us back in !

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BBC Question Time on 05:00 - Nov 9 with 273 viewsLoyal

BBC Question Time on 23:15 - Nov 8 by lifelong

That bloke in the audience had a slightly controversial view, reckoned those that carry knives should be exterminated.


Always good to cover all bases.

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BBC Question Time on 07:53 - Nov 9 with 237 viewsCatullus

BBC Question Time on 11:32 - Jun 19 by jack_lord

Unfortunately sensible debate isn't what the people are stimulated by.


In that respect we haven't moved on from Roman times, he/she who controls the mob controls the senate.

You can't debate very much with anybody who believes that those who shout loudest and longest are the winners and if that fails turn violent.

What about those pro EU soundbites that Osborne churned out though, emergency budget, tax rises and rising unemployment? Not to forget Cameron's bullets flying sounbite.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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BBC Question Time on 08:39 - Nov 9 with 218 viewspikeypaul

Another week closer to the great day.

Question time was the funniest yet last night with the remoaner guests crying like little babies especially that pathetic Irish women.

So funny that once I finish my brekkie it’s going on iplayer to enjoy again.
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