| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. 17:18 - Oct 4 with 8164 views | omarjack |
So he was left out of Portugal squad for upcoming fixtures..
Well if he's a rapist I'm disappointed and feel terribly sorry for his alleged victims, I highly esteem the guy. WTF is happening in the world, everyone is turning out to be an @sshole. [Post edited 4 Oct 2018 17:18]
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 17:31 - Oct 5 with 1694 views | Tom1912 |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 17:02 - Oct 5 by Badlands |
He just need to get a couple of mates to realise they could give him an alibi and he'll get off or conviction overturned ... it's what happens to footballers in their country. |
I don’t believe Ronaldo isn’t disputing that they had sex, but rather that it was consensual. |  | | |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 17:39 - Oct 5 with 1681 views | theloneranger |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 17:00 - Oct 5 by Glyn1 |
Wasn't Trundle once falsely accused of rape? |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 20:13 - Oct 5 with 1608 views | byron |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 17:31 - Oct 5 by Tom1912 |
I don’t believe Ronaldo isn’t disputing that they had sex, but rather that it was consensual. |
Most likely another groupie crying wolf after the event, another ched Evans but this time it’s on the top table, the biggest cheese on the plate. |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 22:07 - Oct 5 with 1535 views | ItchySphincter |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 16:17 - Oct 5 by icecoldjack |
If it was true surely she would have been pressing for charges back then not pressing for $370000 ?
Why now?
My first impression is honey trap, though I don't know all the details. |
Tut tut tut.
Here we go again. Ever been raped have you? How do you know how you’d feel if someone stuck a penis in you against your wishes? Would you be strong enough to pursue a case against one of the most famous sportsmen in the world.....
...or might you consider that you’d be dragged through the courts and made out to be a slag using herself as a honey trap?
Just wondering like? |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 06:57 - Oct 6 with 1446 views | Mo_Wives |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 22:07 - Oct 5 by ItchySphincter |
Tut tut tut.
Here we go again. Ever been raped have you? How do you know how you’d feel if someone stuck a penis in you against your wishes? Would you be strong enough to pursue a case against one of the most famous sportsmen in the world.....
...or might you consider that you’d be dragged through the courts and made out to be a slag using herself as a honey trap?
Just wondering like? |
A very good question, Itchy.
(Anyone not wanting to read all this shit just skip to the last 2 lines)
As someone who has never been raped I do not know how I would feel. I don't know if I'd be strong enough to pursue a case against one of the most famous sportsmen in the world either.
But I must be honest here, if I was worried about being dragged through the courts and made out to be a slag using themselves as a honey trap in my fight for justice I probably wouldn't give the opposition lawyer all the paint they needed to paint that picture by accepting £300k (or whatever the sum was) to let it drop. I would say "no, this is not about money this is about justice...money can't undo what you did". I would probably use my turning down of that offer as evidence that I am not a honey trap and give myself a better chance of receiving justice. Imagine how it would look if she turned that money down. His offer gave her everything she needed to dismiss/debunk claims of being a honey trap.
On the other hand I may not want to go through all the court case and press and see the £300k as compensation. I would not judge anyone for choosing this route. But if it was me I would understand that not only are they buying my silence I am also selling my credibility...I am selling the thing that would probably see most people believe me (turning down a massive amount of money). So if later, after accepting the money, I decided to still go for justice I would not cry about people thinking I was a honey trap because I would understand that my actions are a big part of why people see me this way. I would understand that the reason people may think I was more interested in money rather than justice is because I have already proven, with my own actions, that I've put money before justice.
And yes we could also say that he paid to make the situation go away rather than choosing to prove his innocence. And I would put forward a similar argument if someone was asking "Have you ever been falsely accused of rape? Do you know how it feels? would you be prepared to go through the massive media circus that would be inevitable with you being one of the worlds biggest sportsmen?...Or would you be worried about being made out to be a rapist and mud sticking even if you win, so the option of chucking your accuser the equivalent of 30quid (to the rest of us) to make her go away would be tempting?..."
I'm not saying these things are evidence, I'm just saying there is reasons why Icey may have come to his opinion...apart from the fact that he's an obvious hater of women if ever I've seen one, of course. 
So, a bit of a ramble I know, but to sum up: If you don't want to be seen as a honey trap then turn down the offer of money. Simple. |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 08:43 - Oct 6 with 1399 views | peenemunde |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:34 - Oct 5 by controversial_jack |
Hush money, because mud sticks, innocent or guilty |
Whether the story about him paying money is correct, I don’t know, but one thing is for sure, if you are innocent you shouldn’t pay anyone a single penny. |  | | |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 08:56 - Oct 6 with 1390 views | Loyal |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 20:13 - Oct 5 by byron |
Most likely another groupie crying wolf after the event, another ched Evans but this time it’s on the top table, the biggest cheese on the plate. |
Ched is a very lucky lad, skin of his teeth. |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:05 - Oct 6 with 1386 views | ItchySphincter |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 06:57 - Oct 6 by Mo_Wives |
A very good question, Itchy.
(Anyone not wanting to read all this shit just skip to the last 2 lines)
As someone who has never been raped I do not know how I would feel. I don't know if I'd be strong enough to pursue a case against one of the most famous sportsmen in the world either.
But I must be honest here, if I was worried about being dragged through the courts and made out to be a slag using themselves as a honey trap in my fight for justice I probably wouldn't give the opposition lawyer all the paint they needed to paint that picture by accepting £300k (or whatever the sum was) to let it drop. I would say "no, this is not about money this is about justice...money can't undo what you did". I would probably use my turning down of that offer as evidence that I am not a honey trap and give myself a better chance of receiving justice. Imagine how it would look if she turned that money down. His offer gave her everything she needed to dismiss/debunk claims of being a honey trap.
On the other hand I may not want to go through all the court case and press and see the £300k as compensation. I would not judge anyone for choosing this route. But if it was me I would understand that not only are they buying my silence I am also selling my credibility...I am selling the thing that would probably see most people believe me (turning down a massive amount of money). So if later, after accepting the money, I decided to still go for justice I would not cry about people thinking I was a honey trap because I would understand that my actions are a big part of why people see me this way. I would understand that the reason people may think I was more interested in money rather than justice is because I have already proven, with my own actions, that I've put money before justice.
And yes we could also say that he paid to make the situation go away rather than choosing to prove his innocence. And I would put forward a similar argument if someone was asking "Have you ever been falsely accused of rape? Do you know how it feels? would you be prepared to go through the massive media circus that would be inevitable with you being one of the worlds biggest sportsmen?...Or would you be worried about being made out to be a rapist and mud sticking even if you win, so the option of chucking your accuser the equivalent of 30quid (to the rest of us) to make her go away would be tempting?..."
I'm not saying these things are evidence, I'm just saying there is reasons why Icey may have come to his opinion...apart from the fact that he's an obvious hater of women if ever I've seen one, of course.
So, a bit of a ramble I know, but to sum up: If you don't want to be seen as a honey trap then turn down the offer of money. Simple. |
Yes Mo, it cuts both ways, I know that.
What can’t be denied is that on PS there’s a default position that the ‘victim’ is ‘a bit of a slag’.
Where are the posts speculating about the accused’s dark nature?
There’s no balance. | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:38 - Oct 6 with 1356 views | Highjack |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:05 - Oct 6 by ItchySphincter |
Yes Mo, it cuts both ways, I know that.
What can’t be denied is that on PS there’s a default position that the ‘victim’ is ‘a bit of a slag’.
Where are the posts speculating about the accused’s dark nature?
There’s no balance. |
On balance I think everyone would agree that Ronaldo is a bit of a slag. |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:53 - Oct 6 with 1349 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
If that well respected German newspaper have the documents they claim to (and which Ronaldo's lawyers didn't deny as being real) then it looks like he's in real trouble.
He's innocent until proven guilty anyway. It's a real shame we arrived in the Premier League just as he and others left to go and play abroad. |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:13 - Oct 6 with 1343 views | Mo_Wives |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:05 - Oct 6 by ItchySphincter |
Yes Mo, it cuts both ways, I know that.
What can’t be denied is that on PS there’s a default position that the ‘victim’ is ‘a bit of a slag’.
Where are the posts speculating about the accused’s dark nature?
There’s no balance. |
You could be right, Itch. I personally think we have both default positions represented but I have no idea at what levels. Are we approaching something we could call balance?...I don't know. I think we need a poll with a few questions: 'Team rapist' 'team victim' 'team justice'.
On second thoughts, those choices may need rephrasing...can't see an honest result coming from those questions. | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:14 - Oct 6 with 1341 views | Mo_Wives |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:53 - Oct 6 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
If that well respected German newspaper have the documents they claim to (and which Ronaldo's lawyers didn't deny as being real) then it looks like he's in real trouble.
He's innocent until proven guilty anyway. It's a real shame we arrived in the Premier League just as he and others left to go and play abroad. |
What do the documents claim, Soop?
Edit - It's OK I just looked. They say he admitted that she said "Stop" and "No" during sex. Although, this could include "No, CR7, don't stop". I am of course jesting [Post edited 6 Oct 2018 10:19]
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:34 - Oct 6 with 1318 views | phact0rri |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 09:05 - Oct 6 by ItchySphincter |
Yes Mo, it cuts both ways, I know that.
What can’t be denied is that on PS there’s a default position that the ‘victim’ is ‘a bit of a slag’.
Where are the posts speculating about the accused’s dark nature?
There’s no balance. |
feel this too. I see a lot of talk about women not being listened to. That the default assumption when a woman speaks up about sexual violence, that she is lying. And this thread just really cements the truth in this.
This is someone's sister, and someone's daughter who is saying she has been victimized by an awful crime. She has come out to stand up with other women who are speaking out about their experiences. She's taken money to be quiet, and now she's going to have to return this money (is how this is supposed to work as far as I understand).
The facts that we've seen paint a grizzly picture of Ronaldo. I've always liked Ronaldo, and hearing this is rather depressing. But I want to believe her. And I think she has a lot more to lose standing up like this, that she does to gain.
We really need to listen to these women, and if there's no evidence to back it up or there is reasonable doubt thats one thing. But if there's not, you just look like a woman hating jerk. |  |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:53 - Oct 6 with 1308 views | controversial_jack |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 08:43 - Oct 6 by peenemunde |
Whether the story about him paying money is correct, I don’t know, but one thing is for sure, if you are innocent you shouldn’t pay anyone a single penny. |
It's irrelevant if you are innocent or not, mud sticks and would you want to risk a prosecution? Judges, juries etc are not infallible and mistakes are made.I wouldn't want to be in prison even on remand as a rapist | | | |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 11:34 - Oct 6 with 1282 views | peenemunde |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:53 - Oct 6 by controversial_jack |
It's irrelevant if you are innocent or not, mud sticks and would you want to risk a prosecution? Judges, juries etc are not infallible and mistakes are made.I wouldn't want to be in prison even on remand as a rapist |
Bollocks. We are not talking about an affair here, it’s rape....if you are innocent you shouldn’t pay a penny.
What he should have done is gone to the police and tell them he’s being accused of rape. [Post edited 6 Oct 2018 12:19]
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 12:08 - Oct 6 with 1258 views | Mo_Wives |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 10:34 - Oct 6 by phact0rri |
feel this too. I see a lot of talk about women not being listened to. That the default assumption when a woman speaks up about sexual violence, that she is lying. And this thread just really cements the truth in this.
This is someone's sister, and someone's daughter who is saying she has been victimized by an awful crime. She has come out to stand up with other women who are speaking out about their experiences. She's taken money to be quiet, and now she's going to have to return this money (is how this is supposed to work as far as I understand).
The facts that we've seen paint a grizzly picture of Ronaldo. I've always liked Ronaldo, and hearing this is rather depressing. But I want to believe her. And I think she has a lot more to lose standing up like this, that she does to gain.
We really need to listen to these women, and if there's no evidence to back it up or there is reasonable doubt thats one thing. But if there's not, you just look like a woman hating jerk. |
OK. So we can put you down as 'Team victim' then?
I myself will be in 'Team Justice'. Go Team Justice...#TeamJustice. | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 13:10 - Oct 6 with 1202 views | Mo_Wives |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 11:34 - Oct 6 by peenemunde |
Bollocks. We are not talking about an affair here, it’s rape....if you are innocent you shouldn’t pay a penny.
What he should have done is gone to the police and tell them he’s being accused of rape. [Post edited 6 Oct 2018 12:19]
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Although I don't discount what contra Jack is saying I have to agree with you. It's not fool proof but at least you can say as soon as someone tried to extort money out of you the police were informed. | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 13:13 - Oct 6 with 1197 views | controversial_jack |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 11:34 - Oct 6 by peenemunde |
Bollocks. We are not talking about an affair here, it’s rape....if you are innocent you shouldn’t pay a penny.
What he should have done is gone to the police and tell them he’s being accused of rape. [Post edited 6 Oct 2018 12:19]
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He obviously wanted to keep his name out of the headlines as I explained mud sticks. | | | |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 13:17 - Oct 6 with 1195 views | ItchySphincter |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 11:34 - Oct 6 by peenemunde |
Bollocks. We are not talking about an affair here, it’s rape....if you are innocent you shouldn’t pay a penny.
What he should have done is gone to the police and tell them he’s being accused of rape. [Post edited 6 Oct 2018 12:19]
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You are making some sense here. One of them is clearly lying about the rape but the problem is further compounded by the payment and whether it was extortion, blackmail or hush money, or something else. He’s in deep do-do if rumours are true of documents in which he admits to the crime. | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 13:25 - Oct 6 with 1189 views | Mo_Wives |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 13:17 - Oct 6 by ItchySphincter |
You are making some sense here. One of them is clearly lying about the rape but the problem is further compounded by the payment and whether it was extortion, blackmail or hush money, or something else. He’s in deep do-do if rumours are true of documents in which he admits to the crime. |
Hear hear | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 13:47 - Oct 6 with 1174 views | Jack_Meoff |
Nike statement on the matter:
We're absolutely fine with any and all of our gear being manufactured in absolute misery and exploitation in any Chinese or South East Asian sweatshop; we have absolutely nothing but loyalty to our shareholders to consider in this regard.
However, we'd hate our image to be tarnished by any association with Cristiano Ronaldo should he be found guilty. Rape is unacceptable. We're very much cool with child labour though. Keep buying our shit.
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 14:09 - Oct 6 with 1158 views | Mo_Wives |
BTW, this may sound like a stupid statement on the surface but does anyone know more about the documents where he's admitted she said 'no' and 'stop'? I have only seen a headline from the sun so know little. But is it claimed that he admitted she said 'no' and 'stop' during sex but he carried on? Or is it saying he admitted she said 'no' and 'stop' so he stopped? Or are they just saying he admitted she said 'no' and 'stop' and leaving it at that?
It sounds like a stupid question but it's not unlikely that newspapers would hype up the headline to sell papers. And it's odd that a man saying 'I didn't rape her' would then admit that he did rape her (unless he believed he was off the record or he wrongly believes that not stopping when asked is not rape) | |
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| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 01:30 - Oct 7 with 1058 views | phact0rri |
| They're saying Cristiano Ronaldo is being accused of rape.. on 12:08 - Oct 6 by Mo_Wives |
OK. So we can put you down as 'Team victim' then?
I myself will be in 'Team Justice'. Go Team Justice...#TeamJustice. |
If justice is silencing a voice because you don't want to believe something, despite the glowing facts.... they do say justice is blind... | |
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