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Mark Field 10:04 - Jun 21 with 27479 viewsEbo

Absolutely appalling and disgusting.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/jun/21/conservative-mp-mark-field-

He is now desperately trying to justify his actions. Bottom line, he knew she was a climate protester, he was angry that she was 'spoiling' his wealthy, privileged meal and he took action wholly expected from a bully boy misogynist. They all try to say sorry after the violence.

Would he have slammed a well built male and grabbed him by the throat? I think not. The man is a coward. If you or I was seen by a police officer doing this we’d be arrested. The same should apply here regardless if you support the protest or not, it does not give him the freedom to physically assault people.

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Mark Field on 13:02 - Jun 21 with 1210 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 12:54 - Jun 21 by Highjack

I imagine a lot of people from the security team will be getting sacked this morning for letting random people walk in off the streets.


You’d think in this day and age with the level of threat there’d be a better handle on things.

Not exactly incognito with their uniform of scarlet dress and sash either, were they?


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Mark Field on 13:03 - Jun 21 with 1209 viewsEbo

Mark Field on 11:55 - Jun 21 by Darran

Yeah but that’s different mun. Or something like that.


Same tvvats different party

Thank you, goodnight and bollocks
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Mark Field on 13:03 - Jun 21 with 1205 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:03 - Jun 21 by Ebo

Same tvvats different party


Is the correct answer.

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Mark Field on 13:06 - Jun 21 with 1200 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:02 - Jun 21 by costalotta

Organisers have the responsibility to secure the venue etc.

Let’s unpack it a bit more and apply a specific... if, in a football match you feel,threatened and believe you need to defend your self by applying a level of force before the actual need to defend yourself and that is caught on camera... what’s the likely outcome? Do you think you’ll be attending football matches after that?

Edit bloody predicter text is so annoying...
[Post edited 21 Jun 2019 13:06]


Self defence is a natural right.

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Mark Field on 13:06 - Jun 21 with 1199 viewsEbo

Mark Field on 11:30 - Jun 21 by BarrySwan

Campaigned for many years for, rather than just voted for if you don't mind.

I suppose thinking about it I am naughty boy for wanting us out of the EU which has just blocked the merger that may just have helped save Port Talbot steelworks and it's thousands of direct and indirect jobs in the area.

One must assume that you aren't that bothered about where those thousands of workers are going to earn a living.

Perhaps we could open up some knitted clothes and basket weaving product shops in the area to mitigate any employment shortfalls.


Feel free to let us know of your proposals and ideas.
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Feel free to let me know what those workers will do when the UK is flooded with cheap Chinese steel imports.

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Mark Field on 13:08 - Jun 21 with 1194 viewscostalotta

Mark Field on 13:06 - Jun 21 by Lohengrin

Self defence is a natural right.


Errr. Maybe you’d should read it agin and then answer the actual question and not the one in you think I asked.
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Mark Field on 13:10 - Jun 21 with 1184 viewssherpajacob

Mark Field on 13:06 - Jun 21 by Lohengrin

Self defence is a natural right.


Did she physically threaten Field or anybody else in the room?

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Mark Field on 13:11 - Jun 21 with 1176 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:08 - Jun 21 by costalotta

Errr. Maybe you’d should read it agin and then answer the actual question and not the one in you think I asked.


Do I think I’d be banned for defending myself and by extension those around me? Is that what you’re asking? I’d have to presume I’d be surrounded by witnesses to any action, so no.

That said ban or no ban we do what necessity dictates.

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Mark Field on 13:12 - Jun 21 with 1171 viewsbluey_the_blue

For all the righteously indignant, the woman is not pressing charges.

Funny that, having been viciously assaulted on camera, eh?
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Mark Field on 13:13 - Jun 21 with 1168 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:10 - Jun 21 by sherpajacob

Did she physically threaten Field or anybody else in the room?


She was marching around the seating heading for the podium, who knows how that could played out if she’d gone unchecked?

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Mark Field on 13:15 - Jun 21 with 1158 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:12 - Jun 21 by bluey_the_blue

For all the righteously indignant, the woman is not pressing charges.

Funny that, having been viciously assaulted on camera, eh?


Why would she? Put yourself in her place. She and activists like her are inured to the rough and tumble. It’s an occupational hazard, all part of the game.

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Mark Field on 13:18 - Jun 21 with 1153 viewsHighjack

Mark Field on 13:13 - Jun 21 by Lohengrin

She was marching around the seating heading for the podium, who knows how that could played out if she’d gone unchecked?


Yeah if she was of malicious intent and someone got hurt everyone would be questioning why none of these men didn’t stop her.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Mark Field on 13:18 - Jun 21 with 1151 viewsbluey_the_blue

Mark Field on 13:15 - Jun 21 by Lohengrin

Why would she? Put yourself in her place. She and activists like her are inured to the rough and tumble. It’s an occupational hazard, all part of the game.


Well, that or may she had other reasons for not wanting the attention Who knows?

I do love all the sexist "oh she's a woman, couldn't possibly attack...".

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-stephen-timms-stabbed-13290894
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Mark Field on 13:19 - Jun 21 with 1149 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:18 - Jun 21 by Highjack

Yeah if she was of malicious intent and someone got hurt everyone would be questioning why none of these men didn’t stop her.


No doubt.

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Mark Field on 13:19 - Jun 21 with 1150 viewscostalotta

Mark Field on 13:11 - Jun 21 by Lohengrin

Do I think I’d be banned for defending myself and by extension those around me? Is that what you’re asking? I’d have to presume I’d be surrounded by witnesses to any action, so no.

That said ban or no ban we do what necessity dictates.


I absolutely agree with your last sentence.

Regarding the first, I’m not sure you understand what the question was nor the difference between self defence and assault/reasonable force/feeling threatened.
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Mark Field on 13:21 - Jun 21 with 1142 viewshobo

Mark Field on 10:19 - Jun 21 by Ebo

Darran, it's not ok to physically manhandle a woman who posed no physical threat. Especially from someone who is in a position of authority.

How would you feel if that was your wife being grabbed by the throat?


How do you know she posed no threat?

For all he knew she could have been carrying a knife, a gun, some acid. He dealt with the threat as calmly as he could have imo
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Mark Field on 13:21 - Jun 21 with 1140 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:18 - Jun 21 by bluey_the_blue

Well, that or may she had other reasons for not wanting the attention Who knows?

I do love all the sexist "oh she's a woman, couldn't possibly attack...".

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-stephen-timms-stabbed-13290894


Getting the sack would be a fair guess, Bluey.

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Mark Field on 13:22 - Jun 21 with 1134 viewsbluey_the_blue

Mark Field on 13:21 - Jun 21 by Lohengrin

Getting the sack would be a fair guess, Bluey.


Those professional protesters actually have jobs?
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Mark Field on 13:23 - Jun 21 with 1127 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:19 - Jun 21 by costalotta

I absolutely agree with your last sentence.

Regarding the first, I’m not sure you understand what the question was nor the difference between self defence and assault/reasonable force/feeling threatened.


Would I wait to be hit before defending myself?

Unlikely.

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Mark Field on 13:25 - Jun 21 with 1118 viewscostalotta

Mark Field on 13:21 - Jun 21 by hobo

How do you know she posed no threat?

For all he knew she could have been carrying a knife, a gun, some acid. He dealt with the threat as calmly as he could have imo


Mental note. Next time a see a women with a small handbag walking towards me when I’m out in a bar I must grab her neck and remove her from the bulding.

Why...becuase it maybe a knife or a bomb.
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Mark Field on 13:25 - Jun 21 with 1116 viewsLohengrin

Mark Field on 13:22 - Jun 21 by bluey_the_blue

Those professional protesters actually have jobs?


A lot of them in the Civil Service.

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Mark Field on 13:25 - Jun 21 with 1115 viewsHighjack

Mark Field on 13:25 - Jun 21 by costalotta

Mental note. Next time a see a women with a small handbag walking towards me when I’m out in a bar I must grab her neck and remove her from the bulding.

Why...becuase it maybe a knife or a bomb.


What if she walks into your house uninvited?

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Mark Field on 13:30 - Jun 21 with 1104 viewsLohengrin

Time to wheel this out I think...


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Mark Field on 13:32 - Jun 21 with 1103 viewscostalotta

Mark Field on 13:25 - Jun 21 by Highjack

What if she walks into your house uninvited?


I’d confront her and call the police . She’s in my house after all. If she pulled a knife and came towards me then I’d stay out of her way, protect my family etc. If she got too close I’d try disarm her even if it meant I got injured.
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Mark Field on 13:33 - Jun 21 with 1097 viewsbluey_the_blue

Mark Field on 13:25 - Jun 21 by costalotta

Mental note. Next time a see a women with a small handbag walking towards me when I’m out in a bar I must grab her neck and remove her from the bulding.

Why...becuase it maybe a knife or a bomb.


Next time you see a woman with a small handbag in the bar at a private party who has trespassed with the clear motivating of severely disrupting the party walking towards you, given the murder of Jo Cox, given a woman stabbing Stephen Timms, given the left playing down Jo Brands "joke" about" throwing acid, then always remember to give the benefit of the doubt. That way if anything did happen, you can pat yourself on the back.
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