| Begum 10:02 - Feb 26 with 10296 views | onehunglow |
Appeal dismissed then.
Great decision.
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| Begum on 17:36 - Mar 1 with 809 views | trampie |
| Begum on 17:28 - Mar 1 by Highjack |
Oh well. Officially she’s deceased so I doubt she can legally claim citizenship for anywhere. |
People that are killed aren't deemed to be stripped of their citizenship. |  |
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| Begum on 17:39 - Mar 1 with 804 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 17:16 - Mar 1 by Groo |
You keep hammering 400 fighters came back.
can you show where this data comes from.
can you show that these "fighters" had dual citizenship.
can you show where these 400 "fighters" fought.
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You also say they single her out. This headline states that the number of people stripped of citizenship has risen by 600% in the last 2 years.
https://www.independent.co.uk/
600% of course doesn't say what the before and after actual numbers are, but indicates she wasn't specially selected. More the Press has specially selected. [Post edited 1 Mar 2021 17:19]
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report by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR), at King's College London, published last year.
And also from the European Parliament
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wor | | | |
| Begum on 17:42 - Mar 1 with 792 views | trampie |
| Begum on 17:18 - Mar 1 by onehunglow |
Bear in mind that Welsh people have been killed by these terrorist heroes of hers.
You 'll find most British recoil at inviting someone like this back to our shores before an expensive ,long public trial gorged over by her legal team,miraculously high profile and thus paid accordingly.
She could have been found not guilty on a techicalit,released and bred more siblings for the cause.
Nope, heartless me. Think I d like to save our kids from going to a concert with their mobile primed,bottles of expensive water and bags of sweets for the younger ones,being blown into pieces. It aint a pleasant sight trampie,nor is the smell. I have and it kinda stays with you,when people bleed human rights ,navel gauge and blame ourselves for the evils of others |
I don't know why you are telling me Perch, I wouldn't have let the Anglo Saxons in over here leave alone her forefathers.  [Post edited 1 Mar 2021 17:56]
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| Begum on 17:42 - Mar 1 with 791 views | Boundy |
| Begum on 15:39 - Mar 1 by trampie |
Somebody just said to me would the UK strip citizenship in a similar situation from a 15 year old (as was) blond, white girl ? |
Do keep up, she's 21 | |
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| Begum on 17:44 - Mar 1 with 777 views | trampie |
| Begum on 17:42 - Mar 1 by Boundy |
Do keep up, she's 21 |
He knows that. | |
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| Begum on 17:45 - Mar 1 with 773 views | Highjack |
| Begum on 17:36 - Mar 1 by trampie |
People that are killed aren't deemed to be stripped of their citizenship. |
It does make it a lot harder to fill in the forms. |  |
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| Begum on 17:47 - Mar 1 with 769 views | trampie |
| Begum on 17:45 - Mar 1 by Highjack |
It does make it a lot harder to fill in the forms. |
Did you personally fill in any forms then ? | |
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| Begum on 17:48 - Mar 1 with 768 views | Boundy |
| Begum on 17:18 - Mar 1 by onehunglow |
Bear in mind that Welsh people have been killed by these terrorist heroes of hers.
You 'll find most British recoil at inviting someone like this back to our shores before an expensive ,long public trial gorged over by her legal team,miraculously high profile and thus paid accordingly.
She could have been found not guilty on a techicalit,released and bred more siblings for the cause.
Nope, heartless me. Think I d like to save our kids from going to a concert with their mobile primed,bottles of expensive water and bags of sweets for the younger ones,being blown into pieces. It aint a pleasant sight trampie,nor is the smell. I have and it kinda stays with you,when people bleed human rights ,navel gauge and blame ourselves for the evils of others |
You words have fallen on stony ground , the liberals amongst us who've never got their hands dirty ,have no concept of real life, the ones who scream outrage at perceived injustices but fall silent when the truth is presented to them because it doesn't suit their agenda. | |
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| Begum on 18:05 - Mar 1 with 751 views | Highjack |
| Begum on 17:47 - Mar 1 by trampie |
Did you personally fill in any forms then ? |
I didn’t personally but I imagine my parents had to when they registered my birth. My hands were to small to grip a pen at the time. | |
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| Begum on 18:08 - Mar 1 with 743 views | Boundy |
| Begum on 17:44 - Mar 1 by trampie |
He knows that. |
said his spokesperson  | |
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| Begum on 18:11 - Mar 1 with 736 views | trampie |
| Begum on 18:05 - Mar 1 by Highjack |
I didn’t personally but I imagine my parents had to when they registered my birth. My hands were to small to grip a pen at the time. |
Registering a birth in the UK is not proof of citizenship. | |
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| Begum on 18:40 - Mar 1 with 714 views | Groo |
OK, so no information whether or not they had duel citizenship and where they fought. Some may even be children.
"UK
Most of the individuals who have returned to the UK have been interviewed by the security services to establish what they experienced, the risk they may pose and the prospects for a safe resettlement.
Where an individual has not committed an offence - or there is not a public interest to prosecute - they may be put into a deradicalisation programme, which can include intensive mentoring and support from psychologists.
The Home Office told the BBC that around 400 had come back - the majority did so in the earlier stages of the conflict, and were investigated on their return. A significant proportion of these individuals are assessed as no longer being of national security concern, its statement added.
In his interview with the Times, Home Secretary Sajid Javid said that a range of measures were available to "stop people who pose a serious threat from returning to the UK, including depriving them of their British citizenship or excluding them from the country"."
The above taken from your link. I highlighted what maybe an important bit.
It states the majority returned early, so went there, didn't like what they saw and returned.
Begum is not being picked on for whatever unknown reason as you state. She went there, stayed, interviewed and made clear she approved of what was happening. She is also not alone, she is not the only one (600% rise in people losing their UK citizenship). She's looking at returning because her chosen side lost.
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I should add, what makes her case higher profile to others as I stated, is the press picking up on it, mainly due to the front page news when she left with her now deceased friends. [Post edited 1 Mar 2021 18:42]
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| Begum on 18:57 - Mar 1 with 704 views | Highjack |
| Begum on 18:11 - Mar 1 by trampie |
Registering a birth in the UK is not proof of citizenship. |
Without it it’s a lot harder to get a national insurance number, drivers licence, passport or pretty much anything. | |
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| Begum on 19:51 - Mar 1 with 688 views | trampie |
| Begum on 18:57 - Mar 1 by Highjack |
Without it it’s a lot harder to get a national insurance number, drivers licence, passport or pretty much anything. |
Begum managed to travel without her own passport, depends who you know. | |
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| Begum on 19:55 - Mar 1 with 682 views | Highjack |
| Begum on 19:51 - Mar 1 by trampie |
Begum managed to travel without her own passport, depends who you know. |
There’s another law broken then. I think she’s better off where she is. | |
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| Begum on 20:02 - Mar 1 with 673 views | trampie |
| Begum on 19:55 - Mar 1 by Highjack |
There’s another law broken then. I think she’s better off where she is. |
You don't need a passport to travel mun. | |
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| Begum on 20:09 - Mar 1 with 668 views | Groo |
| Begum on 20:02 - Mar 1 by trampie |
You don't need a passport to travel mun. |
From England to Wales maybe, from England to Turkey, I would fully expect you need one.
Not sure what the procedure is in an emergency replacement, which would be out of the ordinary. | |
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| Begum on 20:25 - Mar 1 with 653 views | Highjack |
| Begum on 20:09 - Mar 1 by Groo |
From England to Wales maybe, from England to Turkey, I would fully expect you need one.
Not sure what the procedure is in an emergency replacement, which would be out of the ordinary. |
They won’t let you into turkey until you cough up twenty quid for a visa. | |
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| Begum on 21:03 - Mar 1 with 640 views | Boundy |
| Begum on 20:25 - Mar 1 by Highjack |
They won’t let you into turkey until you cough up twenty quid for a visa. |
Well that's two things that won't be going back to England this year , her and the triple crown | |
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| Begum on 23:56 - Mar 1 with 605 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Begum on 13:39 - Mar 1 by controversial_jack |
Not their laws their courts and how they interpret the laws, just like ours did. |
They are interpreted as they are written and as they have been practiced since they were made.
Anyone born outside of Bangladesh to Bangladeshi Nationals - is a Bangladesh citizen.
I don’t understand why you seem to be wanting to find a loophole in that very clear law. |  |
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| Begum on 00:03 - Mar 2 with 603 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Begum on 15:39 - Mar 1 by trampie |
Somebody just said to me would the UK strip citizenship in a similar situation from a 15 year old (as was) blond, white girl ? |
I doubt anyone said that to you. When you make silly points (like being deported for speeding), you say that someone else said it.
How many white blonde Muslim women do you know? It’s a scenario that is fairly rare I would imagine. Intentionally made that way of course so there is no examples of it in order to push a race narrative... as opposed to the fact she is a terrorist.
However, should there be a religion full of white blonde haired people that had duel nationality, of which many left to join a group that wishes to murder Westerners and beheaded, drowned and shot people on live stream, then yes I can imagine the same fate would be met with them. | |
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| Begum on 11:10 - Mar 2 with 541 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 18:40 - Mar 1 by Groo |
OK, so no information whether or not they had duel citizenship and where they fought. Some may even be children.
"UK
Most of the individuals who have returned to the UK have been interviewed by the security services to establish what they experienced, the risk they may pose and the prospects for a safe resettlement.
Where an individual has not committed an offence - or there is not a public interest to prosecute - they may be put into a deradicalisation programme, which can include intensive mentoring and support from psychologists.
The Home Office told the BBC that around 400 had come back - the majority did so in the earlier stages of the conflict, and were investigated on their return. A significant proportion of these individuals are assessed as no longer being of national security concern, its statement added.
In his interview with the Times, Home Secretary Sajid Javid said that a range of measures were available to "stop people who pose a serious threat from returning to the UK, including depriving them of their British citizenship or excluding them from the country"."
The above taken from your link. I highlighted what maybe an important bit.
It states the majority returned early, so went there, didn't like what they saw and returned.
Begum is not being picked on for whatever unknown reason as you state. She went there, stayed, interviewed and made clear she approved of what was happening. She is also not alone, she is not the only one (600% rise in people losing their UK citizenship). She's looking at returning because her chosen side lost.
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I should add, what makes her case higher profile to others as I stated, is the press picking up on it, mainly due to the front page news when she left with her now deceased friends. [Post edited 1 Mar 2021 18:42]
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It's unlikely that they all had dual citizenship. Begum, has committed no offence either and you would think that a young girl would be considered less of a risk than an adult male
Begum, didn't like it there either, she got abused, lost a few children and ended up in a refuge camp. She is worse off than any of those who came back | | | |
| Begum on 12:05 - Mar 2 with 532 views | Boundy |
| Begum on 11:10 - Mar 2 by controversial_jack |
It's unlikely that they all had dual citizenship. Begum, has committed no offence either and you would think that a young girl would be considered less of a risk than an adult male
Begum, didn't like it there either, she got abused, lost a few children and ended up in a refuge camp. She is worse off than any of those who came back |
So what you're saying is women are not capable of committing extremes acts of violence ? | |
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| Begum on 12:15 - Mar 2 with 528 views | onehunglow |
| Begum on 12:05 - Mar 2 by Boundy |
So what you're saying is women are not capable of committing extremes acts of violence ? |
I agree she was abused. Everyone believing mass slaughter is enjoyable and something to celebrate must have been at some time.
One thing for sure,it ain’t worth the risk of one Brit to take a chance on her.
Sometimes you gotta accept you re beaten Contro
And you are as is tramps . | |
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| Begum on 12:19 - Mar 2 with 524 views | controversial_jack |
| Begum on 12:05 - Mar 2 by Boundy |
So what you're saying is women are not capable of committing extremes acts of violence ? |
No more or less than men are, But is she more of a risk than 400 male fighters who have returned | | | |
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