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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement 18th Apr 2021 23:45
We have just heard that the proposed new super league is not an idea, it is an agreement. It has just been announced by the BBC - this is for real. 0






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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:18 - Apr 19 with 753 viewsraynor94

The thing is the so called super 6 want their cake and eat it, they are now saying they still want to play in the Premier league as well.

Can't believe the audacity

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:24 - Apr 19 with 732 viewsonehunglow

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:18 - Apr 19 by raynor94

The thing is the so called super 6 want their cake and eat it, they are now saying they still want to play in the Premier league as well.

Can't believe the audacity


I can.
Ive spoken to a few lads here working on the house and they aint keen either .Reds fans at that too.

It could prove a massive own goal but it should free us from the plastics ,people from the likes of Swansea wearing proudly the shirt of a club 200 mls way that they will never see in the flesh. Why? Because they are "high profile" and always in the news . Pitiful clowns.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:24 - Apr 19 with 734 viewsReslovenSwan1

The big teams want aa US system where they are guarentteed qualification every year and guarentteed the £300m. Competition becomes pointless and the games with noting on it will be flat and lacking in edge except for the "guest" teams. Arsenal will come bottom every year and will be quite happy as they know the money is in the bank however well they play.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:25 - Apr 19 with 730 viewsonehunglow

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:24 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

The big teams want aa US system where they are guarentteed qualification every year and guarentteed the £300m. Competition becomes pointless and the games with noting on it will be flat and lacking in edge except for the "guest" teams. Arsenal will come bottom every year and will be quite happy as they know the money is in the bank however well they play.


Hmm

And bugger the rest eh Res.

Good post

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:42 - Apr 19 with 716 viewsSirjohnalot

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:16 - Apr 19 by jasper_T

If UEFA ban players at those clubs Wales are in trouble for the Euros. No Ben Davies, Dan James, Joe Rodon, Gareth Bale, Neco Williams, Dylan Levitt, Ethan Ampadu, Matt Smith or Aaron Ramsey by my count.


At that point they’d not have taken part in the competition. For sure there’s an intent, but not sure that’d be enough to ban them.
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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:43 - Apr 19 with 718 viewsKeithHaynes

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:18 - Apr 19 by raynor94

The thing is the so called super 6 want their cake and eat it, they are now saying they still want to play in the Premier league as well.

Can't believe the audacity


Shouldn’t be allowed to, ban them all and if wales suffer so be it.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 15:56 - Apr 19 with 672 viewsCatullus

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:24 - Apr 19 by ReslovenSwan1

The big teams want aa US system where they are guarentteed qualification every year and guarentteed the £300m. Competition becomes pointless and the games with noting on it will be flat and lacking in edge except for the "guest" teams. Arsenal will come bottom every year and will be quite happy as they know the money is in the bank however well they play.


The other thing is, the 5 teams that "qualify" what if one of them won the thing but didn't qualify the next season. This so called Super League is anything but super.

They correcte that flaw in the CL but other tams still had to qualify even if they made it easier year on year for the big clubs.
A 15 team, no relegation, big money league where most games could/would be pointless by the halfway stage and the team that finishes bottom could still be there next season but the team that wins it might not be.....boring.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:03 - Apr 19 with 657 viewsDr_Parnassus

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:18 - Apr 19 by raynor94

The thing is the so called super 6 want their cake and eat it, they are now saying they still want to play in the Premier league as well.

Can't believe the audacity


Yep can’t do that, the gap would be utterly ludicrous between them and everyone else.

This should be the marker in the sand and the greed ripped up and removed from football completely.

In the NRL and AFL over here (and NFL in the states) there is no transfer fees, just trades. There is a league and club salary cap and there is a draft where each team takes turns to pick an up and coming youngster prior to the season starting from a pool of the best up and coming players in the country (those that finish in worse positions tend to get first dibs).

Something needs to be done to make the game a bit fairer as money isn’t just going to ruin it, it already has ruined it.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:13 - Apr 19 with 648 viewsCatullus

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:03 - Apr 19 by Dr_Parnassus

Yep can’t do that, the gap would be utterly ludicrous between them and everyone else.

This should be the marker in the sand and the greed ripped up and removed from football completely.

In the NRL and AFL over here (and NFL in the states) there is no transfer fees, just trades. There is a league and club salary cap and there is a draft where each team takes turns to pick an up and coming youngster prior to the season starting from a pool of the best up and coming players in the country (those that finish in worse positions tend to get first dibs).

Something needs to be done to make the game a bit fairer as money isn’t just going to ruin it, it already has ruined it.


The gap wouldn't be worse than it already is, besides, they would probably break the rules and play weakened teams. it'd be full of those returning from injury, out of form and any first teamer who didn't make the bench. Other teams would probably have more chance.

I'll edit this because it wasn't what I meant, don't know what happened!


Right what if Man city reserves won the Premier league, would Man City have 2 teams in the ESL?

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:30 - Apr 19 with 633 viewsBadlands

I honestly can’t see the Premier League taking any action against the 6 clubs that possibly bring in 50% of the revenue.
They are also big enough to run parallel teams.
FA might kick them out of current European competitions (saw that suggestion somewhere else).
Some suggestion the Glasgow clubs could be invited to join the PL!
How will that work if they are relegated? But also would that hasten the demise of the four nations international teams in favour of a UK team?
Whatever the outcome Swansea won’t benefit.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:39 - Apr 19 with 628 viewsKeithHaynes

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 15:56 - Apr 19 by Catullus

The other thing is, the 5 teams that "qualify" what if one of them won the thing but didn't qualify the next season. This so called Super League is anything but super.

They correcte that flaw in the CL but other tams still had to qualify even if they made it easier year on year for the big clubs.
A 15 team, no relegation, big money league where most games could/would be pointless by the halfway stage and the team that finishes bottom could still be there next season but the team that wins it might not be.....boring.


One of the few things rugby took from football and it worked, relegation.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:43 - Apr 19 with 627 viewsjasper_T

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:30 - Apr 19 by Badlands

I honestly can’t see the Premier League taking any action against the 6 clubs that possibly bring in 50% of the revenue.
They are also big enough to run parallel teams.
FA might kick them out of current European competitions (saw that suggestion somewhere else).
Some suggestion the Glasgow clubs could be invited to join the PL!
How will that work if they are relegated? But also would that hasten the demise of the four nations international teams in favour of a UK team?
Whatever the outcome Swansea won’t benefit.


Unfortunately the PL will do everything they can to preserve their own finances, whatever they might say about having the fans or football's interests at heart. Same with Sky, they're more concerned with the value of their product being diminished to advertisers and subscribers than "the spirit of football and competition" or whatever these presenters have been blathering on about.

UEFA were already in the process of granting most of these clubs permanent access to CL football to keep them sweet. A knife in the back as a thank you lol.
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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 17:19 - Apr 19 with 608 viewslondonlisa2001

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:30 - Apr 19 by Badlands

I honestly can’t see the Premier League taking any action against the 6 clubs that possibly bring in 50% of the revenue.
They are also big enough to run parallel teams.
FA might kick them out of current European competitions (saw that suggestion somewhere else).
Some suggestion the Glasgow clubs could be invited to join the PL!
How will that work if they are relegated? But also would that hasten the demise of the four nations international teams in favour of a UK team?
Whatever the outcome Swansea won’t benefit.


This finishes the Premier League so taking extreme action may be the only thing they can do.

They’ll then rely on fans creating such a fuss that the whole thing collapses. It’s their only chance if it happens.
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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 17:21 - Apr 19 with 606 viewslondonlisa2001

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 14:42 - Apr 19 by Sirjohnalot

At that point they’d not have taken part in the competition. For sure there’s an intent, but not sure that’d be enough to ban them.


It’s the resignation from the ECA which is the trigger I suspect?

That’s already happened, hence talk of them kicking the clubs out immediately. Players will then have contracts with unaffiliated clubs. A wider question of course is whether those player contracts are then enforceable...
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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 17:53 - Apr 19 with 577 viewsWingstandwood

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 17:56 - Apr 19 with 572 viewsGroo

If they are going for an American franchise system, will they go the whole hog or do they see this as an opportunity to grasp at finances the US system don't allow.

I believe there are caps in place in the US, also they don't have youth teams, the youth play in a very lucrative college system and the professional teams get to pick the players they want from this system each year, in order of how they finished the previous year, the worse team gets first pick etc.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 18:21 - Apr 19 with 546 viewsbritferry

Oliver Dowden MP in Parliament "if UEFA cant act, the government will act"

Wow... can they do that ???

There is cross party agreement too... I presume that won't be the SNP though as Celtic and Rangers are not involved

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 18:30 - Apr 19 with 530 viewsonehunglow

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 18:21 - Apr 19 by britferry

Oliver Dowden MP in Parliament "if UEFA cant act, the government will act"

Wow... can they do that ???

There is cross party agreement too... I presume that won't be the SNP though as Celtic and Rangers are not involved


Without crowds ,no point in Celtic and rangers hordes of pyssheads trashing various European cities .

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 18:54 - Apr 19 with 515 viewslondonlisa2001

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 18:21 - Apr 19 by britferry

Oliver Dowden MP in Parliament "if UEFA cant act, the government will act"

Wow... can they do that ???

There is cross party agreement too... I presume that won't be the SNP though as Celtic and Rangers are not involved


Of course they can.
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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 19:12 - Apr 19 with 497 viewsbuilthjack

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 16:03 - Apr 19 by Dr_Parnassus

Yep can’t do that, the gap would be utterly ludicrous between them and everyone else.

This should be the marker in the sand and the greed ripped up and removed from football completely.

In the NRL and AFL over here (and NFL in the states) there is no transfer fees, just trades. There is a league and club salary cap and there is a draft where each team takes turns to pick an up and coming youngster prior to the season starting from a pool of the best up and coming players in the country (those that finish in worse positions tend to get first dibs).

Something needs to be done to make the game a bit fairer as money isn’t just going to ruin it, it already has ruined it.


My mate is a Manager over there now. He earns as much as half the squad put together. It's crazy.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 19:13 - Apr 19 with 497 viewsmonmouth

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 17:21 - Apr 19 by londonlisa2001

It’s the resignation from the ECA which is the trigger I suspect?

That’s already happened, hence talk of them kicking the clubs out immediately. Players will then have contracts with unaffiliated clubs. A wider question of course is whether those player contracts are then enforceable...


EUFA saying they’ll boot the clubs out of European competitions on Friday. I’ll believe it when I see it. And government action and a fan led review on the German model. If it does happen and they bring the entire greed edifice down on their own heads, that would be sweet.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 19:46 - Apr 19 with 458 viewsbritferry

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 18:54 - Apr 19 by londonlisa2001

Of course they can.


How exactly?

Ok they're businesses, so they can hit them with windfall taxes but they can't stop them doing business. They can make it difficult for them to trade (play matches) but if there's enough money, they'll get around it... look at the money that will be coming in to a city like Manchester

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 19:50 - Apr 19 with 456 viewsCatullus

Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 13:53 - Apr 19 by Dr_Winston

Now look at the disparity of TV revenue elsewhere. There are still six or seven big clubs in the PL Vs two or three precisely because of that distribution.

It's not a perfect system, but immensely better than in Spain, or even Germany where Bayern have won eight on the bounce.


How many big clubs does Germany have? I can't really criticise Bayern because

A, they are not involved with this ESL
B They sell tickets at vastly cheaper prices than the Premier league
C having said they're not involved they have a lot to lose with the Champions league being made defunct.

Whatever the tv disparity is elsewhere it doesn't affect me, what happens in the EPL has affected me. It's up to German fans to complain about their own structure.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 19:58 - Apr 19 with 450 viewsFlashberryjack

I wonder how many fans from the super six clubs will be traveling to the away games, if many do, how much will that help climate change.

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Massive changes ahead for European football and the super league announcement on 20:02 - Apr 19 with 443 viewsJoe_bradshaw

I think Sky Sports have no self awareness. They started this greedy gravy train by their involvement in the breakaway Premier League 30 years ago. Neville and Carragher are ranting about greed (and I agree with them) on a channel that set the ball rolling and they are paid obscene amounts of money by them as a result.

Isn’t this a natural progression from what they started 30 years ago?

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