| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser 18:21 - Sep 16 with 5475 views | KeithHaynes |
Why would you go from Swansea to Forest ?
Jordan said on talkSPORT: “You have got to ask yourself a question if you are Steve Cooper, why would you want to go from Swansea, who have been in play-offs in recent years, to Nottingham Forest. ? You show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. "You're not paid to get somebody into the play-offs, especially a club that's been established in the Premier League for eight or nine years, and is trying to get back there, and be a bridesmaid all the time." |  |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 20:50 - Sep 19 with 1226 views | WalterBoyd |
Better the devil you know sometimes |  | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 08:50 - Sep 20 with 1194 views | andypitt56 |
Im mean, simon Jordan didnt have to say it. Linked with palace and fulham. Leaves swansea ends up at forest says it all really doesn't it. Basket case that club, good luck to him, he is going to need it! | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:02 - Sep 20 with 1171 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 08:50 - Sep 20 by andypitt56 |
Im mean, simon Jordan didnt have to say it. Linked with palace and fulham. Leaves swansea ends up at forest says it all really doesn't it. Basket case that club, good luck to him, he is going to need it! |
Is Ntcham a loser out of interest?
Played for Celtic, linked to Newcastle, Southampton and West Ham… contract terminated by Celtic - ends up at Swansea?
Or this this one of those lop sided views which *we* all just pretend? |  |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:52 - Sep 20 with 1153 views | andypitt56 |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:02 - Sep 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Is Ntcham a loser out of interest?
Played for Celtic, linked to Newcastle, Southampton and West Ham… contract terminated by Celtic - ends up at Swansea?
Or this this one of those lop sided views which *we* all just pretend? |
Well I think its quite obvious that he is too good for the championship. Its a real coup for us, but I'm sure its not where he thought he should be. He has joined us to rebuild his image, he wont be here long. | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:54 - Sep 20 with 1131 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:52 - Sep 20 by andypitt56 |
Well I think its quite obvious that he is too good for the championship. Its a real coup for us, but I'm sure its not where he thought he should be. He has joined us to rebuild his image, he wont be here long. |
So he is a loser then? That’s not very nice is it.
Or it could be a simple case that people want a change of direction after a falling out at their last job.
Ntcham and Cooper’s stories are very similar. | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 12:35 - Sep 20 with 1081 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 19:50 - Sep 18 by dantheswansman |
Unlike a lot of brain dead morons on here i appreciate what he did for us, two playoff places is no joke, the football we played was boring but it got the job done, Jordan on the other hand is a first class biscuit! |
Football should never be boring. |  | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 13:36 - Sep 20 with 1030 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 12:35 - Sep 20 by Treforys_Jack |
Football should never be boring. |
And people should never tell others what they should find boring.
While some like the playground mentality of attacking, nothing wrong with that by the way. Others enjoy the defensive side of the game and all the tactics that come with that.
Different strokes for different folks. | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 13:38 - Sep 20 with 1039 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 13:36 - Sep 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
And people should never tell others what they should find boring.
While some like the playground mentality of attacking, nothing wrong with that by the way. Others enjoy the defensive side of the game and all the tactics that come with that.
Different strokes for different folks. |
Still boring ! Boring is unable to survive for very long, it has an extremely short shelf life. | | | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 13:47 - Sep 20 with 1018 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 13:38 - Sep 20 by Treforys_Jack |
Still boring ! Boring is unable to survive for very long, it has an extremely short shelf life. |
To you maybe, not to all others.
Some people think Game of Thrones is boring, other people like it. People enjoy different styles, we don’t all like the same thing. [Post edited 20 Sep 2021 13:47]
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 23:19 - Sep 21 with 914 views | Rock |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 08:50 - Sep 20 by andypitt56 |
Im mean, simon Jordan didnt have to say it. Linked with palace and fulham. Leaves swansea ends up at forest says it all really doesn't it. Basket case that club, good luck to him, he is going to need it! |
Spot on, Andy.
Cooper being “first choice” for Palace and Fulham, to use the words of a few obvious trolls on here, and then end up slinking away to take over at the club rock-bottom of the Championship is some fall from grace for the ‘Anointed One’. Like you say, says it all really.
Any club worth their salt will have done their homework on the guy, and that goes far deeper than simple placement in the table. His system and tactics are a snapshot of the past, and it’s not going to work against quality teams anymore. Clubs have been moving away from the old-school English-style negative, results-only football and managers for quite some time now, there’s a reason why guys like Pulis and Allardyce have failed miserably for years and are now out of work.
Football has left them in the past, data, scouting and coaching has made these tactics rather obsolete in the modern game. It’s become far too easy to pick holes in reactive, defensive systems now with a good analysis team, manager and players, and no fans or owners want to continuously watch drab football every week in the faint hopes of nicking a set-piece goal and shutting up shop the whole game. There’s a reason Potter, who had less “success” supposedly with us, is managing a club in the Champions League spots and Cooper is taking over one of the most dysfunctional clubs in the pyramid that is rooted to the bottom of the table of the second division.
The PL completely moved on awhile ago, except for the disaster that is Newcastle, and even they had to bring in Graeme Jones to modernise their play, to mixed results so far. Even Dyche, who is one of the few to get good results recently, has had to update his system, Burnley are far more dynamic than given credit and they look to press high and take the game to the opposition. Most clubs in the Championship employ progressive managers who play proactive football at this point, and it’s quickly moving that direction in the lower leagues too.
He might have a decent run initially, Forest have some really good players that have been utilised poorly by another defensive manager in Hughton, but he’s been found out and quality teams will have him sussed. Forest fans are already disappointed, and they are rock bottom and he hasn’t even taken over yet. Just wait until they’re forced to endure Cooperball a couple times a week. |  | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 23:23 - Sep 21 with 908 views | Rock |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:54 - Sep 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
So he is a loser then? That’s not very nice is it.
Or it could be a simple case that people want a change of direction after a falling out at their last job.
Ntcham and Cooper’s stories are very similar. |
Lol, massive fail yet again chap, just more ridiculous “skewed narratives” and trolling.
Ntcham’s ability has never been in question, always head and shoulders above Scottish football, his desire and application were what people had doubts about. Most clubs don’t want to take the risk of a player with supposed character issues, and that comes with the territory of being a professional footballer, as it’s a massive part of the job.
Managers don’t face the same questions, any coach with little commitment or passion for their work will never make it anywhere near the top of the game. Cooper’s ability is what people have doubts about, and for good reason. Are you suggesting his character is also in question?
Lol, bueno, even his biggest fans don’t believe in him. You should really do the board a favour and slink off with Cooper to Forest, it’ll give their fans a hint of what a real “student of the game” is about, eh chap? You’ve just got to learn what a rondo is first... | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 23:23 - Sep 21 with 906 views | Rock |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 20:50 - Sep 19 by WalterBoyd |
Better the devil you know sometimes |
Fat fingers, Walt. | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 17:43 - Sep 22 with 850 views | BillyChong |
Standard loud mouth clueless ‘football person’ employed by talksport to generate calls/click bait | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 05:34 - Sep 23 with 777 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 23:23 - Sep 21 by Rock |
Lol, massive fail yet again chap, just more ridiculous “skewed narratives” and trolling.
Ntcham’s ability has never been in question, always head and shoulders above Scottish football, his desire and application were what people had doubts about. Most clubs don’t want to take the risk of a player with supposed character issues, and that comes with the territory of being a professional footballer, as it’s a massive part of the job.
Managers don’t face the same questions, any coach with little commitment or passion for their work will never make it anywhere near the top of the game. Cooper’s ability is what people have doubts about, and for good reason. Are you suggesting his character is also in question?
Lol, bueno, even his biggest fans don’t believe in him. You should really do the board a favour and slink off with Cooper to Forest, it’ll give their fans a hint of what a real “student of the game” is about, eh chap? You’ve just got to learn what a rondo is first... |
Are you ok?
Ntcham's ability of course has been in question from many quarters, including at Celtic.
https://www.67hailhail.com/news/marseille-boss-explains-why-celtic-star-olivier-
Cooper is yet to have a bad season at management level, be that for ability or attitude. You are of course trolling again.
Anyone who suggests Cooper is a loser for being linked to Premier League clubs and ending up at Forest, simply has to make the same assertions to Ntcham. I assume you fall under that category, chap?
Luckily for me I don't have to make such contradictory decisions to which one to choose, or explain away, as I call it as it is - devoid of bias.
Ntcham looks an excellent player just as Cooper is an excellent manager. Easy.
Bueno, Nirvana (yes I have been told), Bueno.  [Post edited 23 Sep 2021 6:15]
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 05:36 - Sep 23 with 770 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 17:43 - Sep 22 by BillyChong |
Standard loud mouth clueless ‘football person’ employed by talksport to generate calls/click bait |
That is exactly what it is Billy.
The vast majority of their fans sound very happy on their thread on their main forum. Which of course you would be. | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:23 - Sep 23 with 666 views | BarrySwan |
Is this the genius who lost a fortune at Crystal Palace but lectures everyone else on how to run a football club?
Or the chap who was on the radio Tuesday just gone saying that no one wants to watch a cup final between Swansea and Bradford?
Last person I'd ever take advice from on footballing matters. | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:24 - Sep 23 with 659 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:23 - Sep 23 by BarrySwan |
Is this the genius who lost a fortune at Crystal Palace but lectures everyone else on how to run a football club?
Or the chap who was on the radio Tuesday just gone saying that no one wants to watch a cup final between Swansea and Bradford?
Last person I'd ever take advice from on footballing matters. |
The very same… | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:28 - Sep 23 with 660 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 09:02 - Sep 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Is Ntcham a loser out of interest?
Played for Celtic, linked to Newcastle, Southampton and West Ham… contract terminated by Celtic - ends up at Swansea?
Or this this one of those lop sided views which *we* all just pretend? |
Do you think Ntcham would be here if Newcastle, Southampton or West Ham offered him the same contract that we did? |  |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:30 - Sep 23 with 657 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:28 - Sep 23 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Do you think Ntcham would be here if Newcastle, Southampton or West Ham offered him the same contract that we did? |
Absolutely not.
Same as I don’t think Cooper would be at Forest if he was offered the same contract at Fulham or Palace. | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 18:37 - Sep 23 with 612 views | onehunglow |
If Cooper is a loser then Russy is on his tail alright | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 19:10 - Sep 23 with 601 views | WalterBoyd |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 16:28 - Sep 23 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Do you think Ntcham would be here if Newcastle, Southampton or West Ham offered him the same contract that we did? |
I am intrigued.
What contract did we offer him ? | | | |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 00:12 - Feb 10 with 418 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 22:09 - Sep 17 by Dr_Parnassus |
He is constantly backtracking. Only last week he had to admit how wrong he was about Jarrod Bowen. That was after having to admit he was wrong about Klopp. He just says anything that comes into his head.
Jordan as chairman is a frightening thought. He sold his mobile phone business for £75m and blew it all leaving him virtually penniless. |
Took longer than expect to be proven correct on this one.
But Simon Jordan officially now backtracking.
https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2022/02/07/simon-jordan-praises-nottingham-for | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 00:16 - Feb 10 with 404 views | STID2017 |
You must be thrilled to be proved right.
When Cooper falls at the final hurdle hope you are as quick and humble to point out he isn't so great after all ? |  |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 00:22 - Feb 10 with 401 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 00:16 - Feb 10 by STID2017 |
You must be thrilled to be proved right.
When Cooper falls at the final hurdle hope you are as quick and humble to point out he isn't so great after all ? |
Of course I am, why wouldn’t I be. The nonsense regarding him and those that stuck up for reality has been quite ludicrous.
What final hurdle? Forest haven’t made the playoffs since 2011, let alone in a season when a manager takes over them in rock bottom midway through the season.
They are massive underdogs to get promoted (12/1) even from here. There will be no “failing”, this season will be chalked up as another resounding success on his CV punching above his sides ability and expectations. | |
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| Simon Jordan - Steve Cooper is a loser on 10:07 - Feb 10 with 296 views | KeithHaynes |
It’s a rare thing, mind you when you talk as much as Simon Jordan it’s not always going to be right 😂 | |
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