| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. 08:00 - Nov 9 with 4758 views | SwansIndependent |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:59 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:55 - Nov 9 by jack247 |
They’ve won four games all season mind. |
Yes, but they are scoring. I did say in mitigation about their defence. But Monga is not a defender. He’ll thrive there.
Don’t confuse my point with Cardiff being better in general. Table position suggests otherwise. But attacking and scoring they are without a doubt. |  |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:00 - Nov 9 with 0 views | KeithHaynes |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:35 - Nov 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
BBM is doing an exceptional job with a slew of home grown players. Look at his bench on Saturday. 7 of the 8 were from the academy or in their late teens. He has lost patience with Callum Robinson.. |
He has little choice.
He didn’t have anything to say in their signing or development he’s just walked into a job where they are available.
Only Ashford with the Colwill unfortunates made the Welsh squad. |  |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:03 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:08 - Nov 9 by swancity |
Scoring for fun last week but conceding for fun as well
You seem to exaggerating the impact that he’s had at Cardiff. Not doing well at all really until that come back against Burnley but they were 4-1 down too. 😂 |
Again, I mentioned their defence needs working on. Again, this is not about who has the better manager or side all round.
This is about whether BBM would get something out of Monga that would suggest we should have given him more of a chance and I’d say he would. Look at what he’s done with the current squad. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:11 - Nov 9 with 0 views | jack247 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:59 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
Yes, but they are scoring. I did say in mitigation about their defence. But Monga is not a defender. He’ll thrive there.
Don’t confuse my point with Cardiff being better in general. Table position suggests otherwise. But attacking and scoring they are without a doubt. |
If Monga ends up there, I won’t care how well he does personally as long as they keep floundering in lower mid table. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:31 - Nov 9 with 0 views | vetchonian |
I still wonder if we only signed Monga as it was believed Ronald was off to Millwall.
Maybe now this is a case of freeing up resources and team spot for another Estaquido type ?
I know many my well use Matos' reluctance toninclude Monga as something else to beat with but maybe he is not ompressing in training.
Sometimes the "bright young " things are not all they sometimes seem
I rememebr being pilloroed on here when I was pistimg warnings about the signing of Sanches but the experts knew better....quoting of how he had been the ypung player ofnthe Euros etc.....and how did that work out.
Sometimes players dont always work out.....not just loan signings either as we have seen with Walta... | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:33 - Nov 9 with 0 views | howenjack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:37 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
I’ve a feeling this is going to come back and bite us on the @rse.
If he goes to ‘them’ up the road I can almost guarantee their manager will get the best out of him and he’ll start tearing defences apart. Only a hunch of course but I’d put money on it. |
You have to give credit where it is due and I have to say that Iam quite impressed with the way that BBM is getting a tune out of the players that he has available . Slowly but surely they are climbing the table and one thing is for sure their players will only improve as they learn the ropes of championship football.
Could BBM get a tune out of Monga? Who knows its the 64 million dollar question .I would have liked to have seen him in a Swans shirt before now but for whatever reasons it hasn't happened . It may well yet happen , who knows ....... I hope so. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:40 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:33 - Nov 9 by howenjack |
You have to give credit where it is due and I have to say that Iam quite impressed with the way that BBM is getting a tune out of the players that he has available . Slowly but surely they are climbing the table and one thing is for sure their players will only improve as they learn the ropes of championship football.
Could BBM get a tune out of Monga? Who knows its the 64 million dollar question .I would have liked to have seen him in a Swans shirt before now but for whatever reasons it hasn't happened . It may well yet happen , who knows ....... I hope so. |
Well it’s looking unlikely now. We’ll never know by the looks of it because even if he does tear the opposition up at any other club, it may not have worked here. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:48 - Nov 9 with 0 views | clloy2 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:33 - Nov 9 by howenjack |
You have to give credit where it is due and I have to say that Iam quite impressed with the way that BBM is getting a tune out of the players that he has available . Slowly but surely they are climbing the table and one thing is for sure their players will only improve as they learn the ropes of championship football.
Could BBM get a tune out of Monga? Who knows its the 64 million dollar question .I would have liked to have seen him in a Swans shirt before now but for whatever reasons it hasn't happened . It may well yet happen , who knows ....... I hope so. |
I think being forced into playing the same basic starting 11 week in week out probably helps, unlike us where we make wholesale changes game after game. I know injuries haven't helped recently, but going into Nov, we don't appear to know what our best starting 11 is.
Moylan on fire, scoring most games, which comes with being match sharp, as opposed to our 3 who are continuously on the starting conveyor belt. Even when one starts, they ate usually subbed off early in the 2nd half, along with half the team. | | | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 17:22 - Nov 9 with 0 views | jack247 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 15:48 - Nov 9 by clloy2 |
I think being forced into playing the same basic starting 11 week in week out probably helps, unlike us where we make wholesale changes game after game. I know injuries haven't helped recently, but going into Nov, we don't appear to know what our best starting 11 is.
Moylan on fire, scoring most games, which comes with being match sharp, as opposed to our 3 who are continuously on the starting conveyor belt. Even when one starts, they ate usually subbed off early in the 2nd half, along with half the team. |
It will pay dividends later in the season. Teams that don’t rotate will eventually feel the pace.
As for Cardiff, they’ve got four points from two home games and it’s their best run of the season. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 17:45 - Nov 9 with 0 views | MumsArmy |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:46 - Nov 9 by KeithHaynes |
Both loans, that’s the clue for me. |
We have to use the loan system smartly Keith. It’s an arrogant position for a coach to refuse to use them. For a club with resources that will never match the biggest clubs in our league, the loan system allows the club to bring in players they couldn’t normally afford. It’s quite sickening to see Yalcouye perform like he has for a club 2nd in the Premier League this season. If Monga goes to a rival championship side and destroys teams then questions have to be asked. Doesn’t sound like he was a cheap loan either, 7 figures and 20k a week is no cheap loan. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 17:53 - Nov 9 with 0 views | jack247 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 17:45 - Nov 9 by MumsArmy |
We have to use the loan system smartly Keith. It’s an arrogant position for a coach to refuse to use them. For a club with resources that will never match the biggest clubs in our league, the loan system allows the club to bring in players they couldn’t normally afford. It’s quite sickening to see Yalcouye perform like he has for a club 2nd in the Premier League this season. If Monga goes to a rival championship side and destroys teams then questions have to be asked. Doesn’t sound like he was a cheap loan either, 7 figures and 20k a week is no cheap loan. |
Agree with this. I’ve always said I’m all for loans provided they are better quality than we have or could reasonably expect to sign. Monga seems to fit that profile.
There is still the issue of not turning up to training though. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:00 - Nov 9 with 0 views | clloy2 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 17:53 - Nov 9 by jack247 |
Agree with this. I’ve always said I’m all for loans provided they are better quality than we have or could reasonably expect to sign. Monga seems to fit that profile.
There is still the issue of not turning up to training though. |
Agree I think Matos doesn't like giving preferential game time to loan players, over an established first team regular. The obvious reference to Yalkoue last season comes to mind, from day 1 it looked like there was a talented player there, but most often than not he didn't start and was a bencher. I'm sure with more development and game time we would have benefited from his loan much more than we did. I would say on reflection thinking back over the years, when we have loaned players in from the prem, they generally shine when given game time, after all in most cases, that's why they are with a Prem club. How would Leon Britton, Mathew Rush, Guehi, Gallagher, Brewster have done if they were on loan now. Given the high wage that Monga is on and his undoubted ability, for him not to have appeared to date is quite damming. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter to me whether its a loan player or not, the best team capable of winning a football match is the one that should be starting. I find it difficult to fathom why the most talented player in our squad hasnt played to date and worse still going back to Man City with a view to being loaned out to a possible championship rival. As we have not seen him play in a Swansea shirt, difficult for us fans to make any judgment as to his attitude etc. If he played and was a flop, we would say fair enough send him back and save the money, but to have spent what we have spent with no return is not good business. I suspect, for him not to have made one appearance, there must be more going on behind the scenes, that isnt public. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:01 - Nov 9 with 0 views | KeithHaynes |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:00 - Nov 9 by clloy2 |
Agree I think Matos doesn't like giving preferential game time to loan players, over an established first team regular. The obvious reference to Yalkoue last season comes to mind, from day 1 it looked like there was a talented player there, but most often than not he didn't start and was a bencher. I'm sure with more development and game time we would have benefited from his loan much more than we did. I would say on reflection thinking back over the years, when we have loaned players in from the prem, they generally shine when given game time, after all in most cases, that's why they are with a Prem club. How would Leon Britton, Mathew Rush, Guehi, Gallagher, Brewster have done if they were on loan now. Given the high wage that Monga is on and his undoubted ability, for him not to have appeared to date is quite damming. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter to me whether its a loan player or not, the best team capable of winning a football match is the one that should be starting. I find it difficult to fathom why the most talented player in our squad hasnt played to date and worse still going back to Man City with a view to being loaned out to a possible championship rival. As we have not seen him play in a Swansea shirt, difficult for us fans to make any judgment as to his attitude etc. If he played and was a flop, we would say fair enough send him back and save the money, but to have spent what we have spent with no return is not good business. I suspect, for him not to have made one appearance, there must be more going on behind the scenes, that isnt public. |
Of course. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:12 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Fireboy2 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:01 - Nov 9 by KeithHaynes |
Of course. |
Agreed, monga obviously doesnt like hard work, if he did he would have got gametime yes he has potential, some say he did well at Leicester last season but look what happened to them, food for thought 😉 |  | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:16 - Nov 9 with 0 views | swancity |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:59 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
Yes, but they are scoring. I did say in mitigation about their defence. But Monga is not a defender. He’ll thrive there.
Don’t confuse my point with Cardiff being better in general. Table position suggests otherwise. But attacking and scoring they are without a doubt. |
Barely 10 days ago Cardiff lost 3-0 at Wolves. Since then they’ve beaten Burnley 5-4 and drawn with West Ham. They’ve conceded 10 in three games and are now 14th with two points from seven away games. They’ve been fairly crap for most of the season. Against Burnley for most of the game they were also crap. I’m unsure why you think otherwise. Meanwhile we are in sixth after one of our best ever starts to a season. There’s no pleasing some people I suppose. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:56 - Nov 9 with 0 views | JJBomber |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 17:45 - Nov 9 by MumsArmy |
We have to use the loan system smartly Keith. It’s an arrogant position for a coach to refuse to use them. For a club with resources that will never match the biggest clubs in our league, the loan system allows the club to bring in players they couldn’t normally afford. It’s quite sickening to see Yalcouye perform like he has for a club 2nd in the Premier League this season. If Monga goes to a rival championship side and destroys teams then questions have to be asked. Doesn’t sound like he was a cheap loan either, 7 figures and 20k a week is no cheap loan. |
Will anyone loan us players after this debacle? | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:03 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:56 - Nov 9 by JJBomber |
Will anyone loan us players after this debacle? |
People in football will know the facts because people talk. So in my opinion yes, the club has done everything they can. If we hadn't it would go against us with the ongoing monitoring for Cat1. [Post edited 9 Nov 21:12]
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:06 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Fireboy2 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:56 - Nov 9 by JJBomber |
Will anyone loan us players after this debacle? |
Debacle?
It sounds like he came with great potential but didnt knuckle down and it looks we have fcuked him off for that reason.
I for one trust matos and his approach, ateotd its got us to 6th after a third of the season gone.
Yet there are people who arent happy, jeez 🙄 | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:35 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 20:16 - Nov 9 by swancity |
Barely 10 days ago Cardiff lost 3-0 at Wolves. Since then they’ve beaten Burnley 5-4 and drawn with West Ham. They’ve conceded 10 in three games and are now 14th with two points from seven away games. They’ve been fairly crap for most of the season. Against Burnley for most of the game they were also crap. I’m unsure why you think otherwise. Meanwhile we are in sixth after one of our best ever starts to a season. There’s no pleasing some people I suppose. |
You clearly have a problem with comprehension.
I’m not saying they are better than us, I’m saying they are scoring more. What don’t you understand about that. And I’m making the point because I was asked whether BBM would improve Monga and I’d say he would because that’s what he’s good at and Monga is an attacking player.
So let’s stop trying to be argumentative. Read what I’ve said and the context it’s been made in.
And I haven’t seen their game against Burnley and nor do I need to have done to make the point I’m making. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:40 - Nov 9 with 0 views | KeithHaynes |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:35 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
You clearly have a problem with comprehension.
I’m not saying they are better than us, I’m saying they are scoring more. What don’t you understand about that. And I’m making the point because I was asked whether BBM would improve Monga and I’d say he would because that’s what he’s good at and Monga is an attacking player.
So let’s stop trying to be argumentative. Read what I’ve said and the context it’s been made in.
And I haven’t seen their game against Burnley and nor do I need to have done to make the point I’m making. |
Connor Roberts wasn’t helpful when he came on. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:43 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:40 - Nov 9 by KeithHaynes |
Connor Roberts wasn’t helpful when he came on. |
Nope, you’ve lost me? | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:44 - Nov 9 with 0 views | KeithHaynes |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:43 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
Nope, you’ve lost me? |
Played like a knobhead, hope that clears it up | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:46 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Fireboy2 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:43 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
Nope, you’ve lost me? |
He was sh!te. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:47 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:44 - Nov 9 by KeithHaynes |
Played like a knobhead, hope that clears it up |
I got my threads mixed up. He came on for Burnley. Thought he’d have a bit more incentive. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 22:25 - Nov 9 with 0 views | swancity |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 21:35 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
You clearly have a problem with comprehension.
I’m not saying they are better than us, I’m saying they are scoring more. What don’t you understand about that. And I’m making the point because I was asked whether BBM would improve Monga and I’d say he would because that’s what he’s good at and Monga is an attacking player.
So let’s stop trying to be argumentative. Read what I’ve said and the context it’s been made in.
And I haven’t seen their game against Burnley and nor do I need to have done to make the point I’m making. |
There’s zero evidence to suggest that Cardiffs manager would be better for Monga. Zero.
But you seem to have invented something.
He was a Premier League footballer at 15. There’s a suggestion ( to be verified ) that he might not have fully applied himself here. If that’s the case then it explains his absence. It’s a completely pointless conversation regarding Cardiff. Some players just don’t settle. For millions of reasons. Did he think it was below him? I’d like to think not. But it can and does happen.
By the way they have scored 27 to our 22. Not that much in it really. But they’ve conceded 27 too. | |
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