| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. 08:00 - Nov 9 with 4790 views | SwansIndependent |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 08:15 - Nov 9 with 0 views | EagleEye |
Incredible amounts of money changing hands for absolutely zero return. Someone, somewhere needs to held to account within the club. No doubt we will get the “lessons will be learnt” statement when this eventually gets sorted |  | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 08:32 - Nov 9 with 0 views | 3swan |
"Head coach Vítor Matos wants to see more consistent hard work from him. We are told that expectation has been behind his exclusion from the matchday squad on numerous occasions. His age provides some context, with the youngster still adapting to the demands of being a senior professional away from his parent club"
I can understand the comment about age and away from the parent club.
The first part though is down to him. He played 10 starts and 27 subs for Leicester ( 7 in the Premier) so should know what's required in the championship even allowing for differing styles of the clubs. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 09:03 - Nov 9 with 0 views | jack_lord |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 08:32 - Nov 9 by 3swan |
"Head coach Vítor Matos wants to see more consistent hard work from him. We are told that expectation has been behind his exclusion from the matchday squad on numerous occasions. His age provides some context, with the youngster still adapting to the demands of being a senior professional away from his parent club"
I can understand the comment about age and away from the parent club.
The first part though is down to him. He played 10 starts and 27 subs for Leicester ( 7 in the Premier) so should know what's required in the championship even allowing for differing styles of the clubs. |
How much of this is down to him possibly and not wanting to be here. the Swansea village usually has enough stories to suggest he is happy or unhappy in the area. If he is a bad egg then why isn't a scenario available for the loaning clb to return the asset to the parent club on the basis of that asset not complying with the terms of the contract.
If, however, all is good and he is just not being selected because he isnt seen as trying hard enough then questions should be asked internally because he has a talent apparently.
He is 17.
Many of us had left home for the forces so little sympathy when you are getting paid more in a week than we had in a year. |  |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 09:10 - Nov 9 with 0 views | onehunglow |
Complete waste of money
We didn’t need another winger
We certainly didn’t need a kid with attitude | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 09:30 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
Is it purely a coincidence that Matos doesn't like loan players or is this situation a reason to back his opinion. |  | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:02 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Boundy |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 09:03 - Nov 9 by jack_lord |
How much of this is down to him possibly and not wanting to be here. the Swansea village usually has enough stories to suggest he is happy or unhappy in the area. If he is a bad egg then why isn't a scenario available for the loaning clb to return the asset to the parent club on the basis of that asset not complying with the terms of the contract.
If, however, all is good and he is just not being selected because he isnt seen as trying hard enough then questions should be asked internally because he has a talent apparently.
He is 17.
Many of us had left home for the forces so little sympathy when you are getting paid more in a week than we had in a year. |
"Many of us had left home for the forces so little sympathy when you are getting paid more in a week than we had in a year." a similar comment I made about him in another thread .So much promise needs to be matched by effort and if you haven't got both then the first is meaningless. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:33 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Demitrius |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 08:15 - Nov 9 by EagleEye |
Incredible amounts of money changing hands for absolutely zero return. Someone, somewhere needs to held to account within the club. No doubt we will get the “lessons will be learnt” statement when this eventually gets sorted |
Agree. Sounds like an expensive mistake. Having seen this kid shine in a poor Leicester side I was excited when we signed him and said so on here. I know the recruitment can't always be spot on but the Walta and Monga deals look from an outside observation at least, like disconnect between them and the manager. If so that needs correcting before the Jan window. |  |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:37 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
I’ve a feeling this is going to come back and bite us on the @rse.
If he goes to ‘them’ up the road I can almost guarantee their manager will get the best out of him and he’ll start tearing defences apart. Only a hunch of course but I’d put money on it. |  |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 11:13 - Nov 9 with 0 views | wwcigne |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:33 - Nov 9 by Demitrius |
Agree. Sounds like an expensive mistake. Having seen this kid shine in a poor Leicester side I was excited when we signed him and said so on here. I know the recruitment can't always be spot on but the Walta and Monga deals look from an outside observation at least, like disconnect between them and the manager. If so that needs correcting before the Jan window. |
Walta is a strange one .. Matos obviously doesn’t want him ,yet he looks like a good prospect that probably needs acclimatising to the championship,many players take a bit of time to get up to speed in this division , we’ve seen players not rated by one manager go on to great things with another and go on to get big money moves to massive clubs
I hope that’s not what’s happening here
Matos picks Just ,but many on here question his strength and ability at this level,what can you say ?
Also Zan was written off by Sheehan yet went on to become the championship top scorer , no mean feat | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 11:29 - Nov 9 with 0 views | swancity |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:37 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
I’ve a feeling this is going to come back and bite us on the @rse.
If he goes to ‘them’ up the road I can almost guarantee their manager will get the best out of him and he’ll start tearing defences apart. Only a hunch of course but I’d put money on it. |
What a strange but interesting comment :
You can “ almost guarantee that if Monga goes to Cardiff that their manager will get the best out of him and he’ll start tearing defences apart “!
Are you suggesting that he’s a better manager? | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 11:30 - Nov 9 with 0 views | onehunglow |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 11:29 - Nov 9 by swancity |
What a strange but interesting comment :
You can “ almost guarantee that if Monga goes to Cardiff that their manager will get the best out of him and he’ll start tearing defences apart “!
Are you suggesting that he’s a better manager? |
People are strange
Faces look ugly when you’re alone
Clap that | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:01 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 11:29 - Nov 9 by swancity |
What a strange but interesting comment :
You can “ almost guarantee that if Monga goes to Cardiff that their manager will get the best out of him and he’ll start tearing defences apart “!
Are you suggesting that he’s a better manager? |
He has got a team of youth players playing very well at Cardiff. They’re scoring for fun (yes, I appreciate defensively they’ve done work to do) so yes, in this case I think he possibly is. It’s not easy to say who the best manager is because there are far too many variables at play but youth development is his forte. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:08 - Nov 9 with 0 views | onehunglow |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:01 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
He has got a team of youth players playing very well at Cardiff. They’re scoring for fun (yes, I appreciate defensively they’ve done work to do) so yes, in this case I think he possibly is. It’s not easy to say who the best manager is because there are far too many variables at play but youth development is his forte. |
Which begs the question … what about our youth ? | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:12 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:08 - Nov 9 by onehunglow |
Which begs the question … what about our youth ? |
Well, unlike Cardiff we don’t need to use them to the same extent. Cardiff have not invested in experienced players and brought Barry-Murphy in to develop what they have which are many youth products. Sadly for us the gamble seems to be paying off and though it sticks in my craw, I have to give him credit for what he’s done. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:35 - Nov 9 with 0 views | MumsArmy |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 10:33 - Nov 9 by Demitrius |
Agree. Sounds like an expensive mistake. Having seen this kid shine in a poor Leicester side I was excited when we signed him and said so on here. I know the recruitment can't always be spot on but the Walta and Monga deals look from an outside observation at least, like disconnect between them and the manager. If so that needs correcting before the Jan window. |
I don’t know where the blame lies. But Matos not playing talented players is becoming a theme, look at Yalcouye. If we only sign players the manager wants then there isn’t any point in having a recruitment team, just let him do it. Having said that, a lot of money being thrown down the drain or left on the table this year. Refusing to sell Vipotnik then dropping him and tanking his value is weird. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:59 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:35 - Nov 9 by MumsArmy |
I don’t know where the blame lies. But Matos not playing talented players is becoming a theme, look at Yalcouye. If we only sign players the manager wants then there isn’t any point in having a recruitment team, just let him do it. Having said that, a lot of money being thrown down the drain or left on the table this year. Refusing to sell Vipotnik then dropping him and tanking his value is weird. |
I don't think Matos had a say in selling Vipotnik. If the clubs valuation was met he would have been sold, it wasn't. [Post edited 9 Nov 13:00]
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:01 - Nov 9 with 0 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea should avoid teenage loans as a rule. Even if they had the kid from Liverpool he would likely not be happy here. Remember Fun Burns. A budding superstar who just never looked this part. Rhys Williams was older.
Swansea does not need these guys. Finn now plays for Stevenage I think.No just checked Wigan on a permanent.. [Post edited 9 Nov 13:09]
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:20 - Nov 9 with 0 views | union_jack |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:01 - Nov 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea should avoid teenage loans as a rule. Even if they had the kid from Liverpool he would likely not be happy here. Remember Fun Burns. A budding superstar who just never looked this part. Rhys Williams was older.
Swansea does not need these guys. Finn now plays for Stevenage I think.No just checked Wigan on a permanent.. [Post edited 9 Nov 13:09]
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Monga has played at this level and is widely regarded as being a generational talent. He should have been given a chance. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:49 - Nov 9 with 0 views | JJBomber |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 11:13 - Nov 9 by wwcigne |
Walta is a strange one .. Matos obviously doesn’t want him ,yet he looks like a good prospect that probably needs acclimatising to the championship,many players take a bit of time to get up to speed in this division , we’ve seen players not rated by one manager go on to great things with another and go on to get big money moves to massive clubs
I hope that’s not what’s happening here
Matos picks Just ,but many on here question his strength and ability at this level,what can you say ?
Also Zan was written off by Sheehan yet went on to become the championship top scorer , no mean feat |
we've seen a lot of our ex players go on to great things. Harry dalling had a brilliant game for Norwich at the weekend with one of the craziest goals ever seen, as well as a clearance of the line. Grimes last season was re-born at Coventry. Lewis O'Brien with the header for Wrexham, piroe scored for West ham, Yalcouye with the header for Brighton, galbraith with the assist for the Stoke winner. It was a great weekend for ex-Swansea players! | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:55 - Nov 9 with 0 views | jack247 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:12 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
Well, unlike Cardiff we don’t need to use them to the same extent. Cardiff have not invested in experienced players and brought Barry-Murphy in to develop what they have which are many youth products. Sadly for us the gamble seems to be paying off and though it sticks in my craw, I have to give him credit for what he’s done. |
They’ve won four games all season mind. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:55 - Nov 9 with 0 views | Whiterockin |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 13:49 - Nov 9 by JJBomber |
we've seen a lot of our ex players go on to great things. Harry dalling had a brilliant game for Norwich at the weekend with one of the craziest goals ever seen, as well as a clearance of the line. Grimes last season was re-born at Coventry. Lewis O'Brien with the header for Wrexham, piroe scored for West ham, Yalcouye with the header for Brighton, galbraith with the assist for the Stoke winner. It was a great weekend for ex-Swansea players! |
I dare say if you looked carefully at others who have left in the last two years you could find as many if not more who did nothing on the weekend. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:08 - Nov 9 with 0 views | swancity |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:01 - Nov 9 by union_jack |
He has got a team of youth players playing very well at Cardiff. They’re scoring for fun (yes, I appreciate defensively they’ve done work to do) so yes, in this case I think he possibly is. It’s not easy to say who the best manager is because there are far too many variables at play but youth development is his forte. |
Scoring for fun last week but conceding for fun as well
You seem to exaggerating the impact that he’s had at Cardiff. Not doing well at all really until that come back against Burnley but they were 4-1 down too. 😂 | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:20 - Nov 9 with 0 views | MumsArmy |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:59 - Nov 9 by Whiterockin |
I don't think Matos had a say in selling Vipotnik. If the clubs valuation was met he would have been sold, it wasn't. [Post edited 9 Nov 13:00]
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I wasn’t blaming Matos. The club had to realise he wasn’t in the plans to be the starting CF, in which case their valuation was clearly too high. Hull bid £13m I think I read, I don’t see how we get that now for our second/third choice striker, we have killed any form of negotiating position. | | | |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:35 - Nov 9 with 0 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:08 - Nov 9 by swancity |
Scoring for fun last week but conceding for fun as well
You seem to exaggerating the impact that he’s had at Cardiff. Not doing well at all really until that come back against Burnley but they were 4-1 down too. 😂 |
BBM is doing an exceptional job with a slew of home grown players. Look at his bench on Saturday. 7 of the 8 were from the academy or in their late teens. He has lost patience with Callum Robinson.. | |
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| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 14:46 - Nov 9 with 0 views | KeithHaynes |
| Exclusive: Swans in talks to return Monga to Manchester City. on 12:35 - Nov 9 by MumsArmy |
I don’t know where the blame lies. But Matos not playing talented players is becoming a theme, look at Yalcouye. If we only sign players the manager wants then there isn’t any point in having a recruitment team, just let him do it. Having said that, a lot of money being thrown down the drain or left on the table this year. Refusing to sell Vipotnik then dropping him and tanking his value is weird. |
Both loans, that’s the clue for me. |  |
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