| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? 13:30 - Feb 2 with 2494 views | SwansIndependent |
 Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? 2nd Feb 2022 13:29The first of seven February championship games was played last night at the swansea.com stadium. The boo’s at the end were predictable as was the strategy chosen for the game. Yes there was a clear formation change but the game plan seemed as it always is.  0
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:39 - Feb 2 with 1291 views | Catullus |
If he wants players to take risks then he needs to drop Grimes and Smith and play 2 up front.
This is not entertainment (bearing in mind I wasn't there last night) and it has become slow, predictable and boring. The person responsible for all this is the manager, he can change things but will he? | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:47 - Feb 2 with 1281 views | vetchonian |
Great defence of MArtin and his style and the so called transition and the lack of the right players to make the style work
But how about this coaching team doing something to change a stat much talked about last night our failure to score from set pieces. Regardless of the "lack of correct " players to execute Martinball to deliver consistent wins why cant Martin and his team work with the players we have to be anle to convert Corners and free kicks into goals? !4 corners we have had in the last 4 games I am not sure how many free kicks near to the opponents bix but there have been a few....golden opportunities to score yet we struggle to convert these!
What are we doing on the training ground | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:51 - Feb 2 with 1265 views | onehunglow |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:47 - Feb 2 by vetchonian |
Great defence of MArtin and his style and the so called transition and the lack of the right players to make the style work
But how about this coaching team doing something to change a stat much talked about last night our failure to score from set pieces. Regardless of the "lack of correct " players to execute Martinball to deliver consistent wins why cant Martin and his team work with the players we have to be anle to convert Corners and free kicks into goals? !4 corners we have had in the last 4 games I am not sure how many free kicks near to the opponents bix but there have been a few....golden opportunities to score yet we struggle to convert these!
What are we doing on the training ground |
Maybe ask lifelong. He and his chums seem upbeat so they could help us doubters.
We cannot take a corner and are unwilling and unable to adapt tactics .
We have some serious skill in that squad. Wolf is worth 8m and yet we have fans who doubt HIM rather than Martin.
Ntcham is a very strong player utterly wasted as a wide man.
As for Piroe...I just feel for him. He was dumped early season by Martin don't forget. He is our ONLY goal scorer really. | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:00 - Feb 2 with 1242 views | Flashberryjack |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:39 - Feb 2 by Catullus |
If he wants players to take risks then he needs to drop Grimes and Smith and play 2 up front.
This is not entertainment (bearing in mind I wasn't there last night) and it has become slow, predictable and boring. The person responsible for all this is the manager, he can change things but will he? |
I'd certainly agree regarding dropping Smith, but Grimes is arguably one of our most talented players IMO, he and the team just need to change the default setting of passing back to the keeper rather than drive forward. |  |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:08 - Feb 2 with 1219 views | nantywatcher |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:39 - Feb 2 by Catullus |
If he wants players to take risks then he needs to drop Grimes and Smith and play 2 up front.
This is not entertainment (bearing in mind I wasn't there last night) and it has become slow, predictable and boring. The person responsible for all this is the manager, he can change things but will he? |
Grimes hit one awful free kick in the second half. In the first half he was literally flawless from one penalty area to the other. Luton, possessing a good 'football' manager closed him down a bit in the second half, but overall he was a joy to watch. A big shout out to Cabango who was excellent all night | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:15 - Feb 2 with 1208 views | jasper_T |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:08 - Feb 2 by nantywatcher |
Grimes hit one awful free kick in the second half. In the first half he was literally flawless from one penalty area to the other. Luton, possessing a good 'football' manager closed him down a bit in the second half, but overall he was a joy to watch. A big shout out to Cabango who was excellent all night |
It doesn't matter what Grimes actually does, some fans have a picture of him in their heads that won't change. | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:27 - Feb 2 with 1175 views | onehunglow |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:15 - Feb 2 by jasper_T |
It doesn't matter what Grimes actually does, some fans have a picture of him in their heads that won't change. |
Its one of him stopping then turning and passing backwards,taking corners that dont reach the first defender and free kicks worthy of Mark Gower at his very worst.
He can play though and pass to a high standard but like others he is badly advised and coached.
Cabango is now established and Martin realising this is a "positive .
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:28 - Feb 2 with 1177 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:08 - Feb 2 by nantywatcher |
Grimes hit one awful free kick in the second half. In the first half he was literally flawless from one penalty area to the other. Luton, possessing a good 'football' manager closed him down a bit in the second half, but overall he was a joy to watch. A big shout out to Cabango who was excellent all night |
"Grimes hit one awful free kick in the second half"
and how many aweful corners? | | | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:32 - Feb 2 with 1174 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:47 - Feb 2 by vetchonian |
Great defence of MArtin and his style and the so called transition and the lack of the right players to make the style work
But how about this coaching team doing something to change a stat much talked about last night our failure to score from set pieces. Regardless of the "lack of correct " players to execute Martinball to deliver consistent wins why cant Martin and his team work with the players we have to be anle to convert Corners and free kicks into goals? !4 corners we have had in the last 4 games I am not sure how many free kicks near to the opponents bix but there have been a few....golden opportunities to score yet we struggle to convert these!
What are we doing on the training ground |
"Great defence of MArtin and his style and the so called transition and the lack of the right players to make the style work "
Why does he think he can get half a million pound players in the championship play like multi million pound Manchester City players.
He dreams about it as he did at MK Dons, but the reality is out of his and the club's reach.
In the past we have used tried and tested tactics for both defence and attack that were shown to work. He and his coaches need to study that and get back to it ASAP. | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:54 - Feb 2 with 1140 views | Boundy |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:27 - Feb 2 by onehunglow |
Its one of him stopping then turning and passing backwards,taking corners that dont reach the first defender and free kicks worthy of Mark Gower at his very worst.
He can play though and pass to a high standard but like others he is badly advised and coached.
Cabango is now established and Martin realising this is a "positive .
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A few players went hiding last night ,r far too many times the only option for the pass was to a player either to his side or rear . | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:10 - Feb 2 with 1095 views | jasper_T |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:28 - Feb 2 by A_Fans_Dad |
"Grimes hit one awful free kick in the second half"
and how many aweful corners? |
Wolf took the worst one that didn't beat the first man. Grimes actually got it in the mixer.
You'd think there must be someone better. Connor was taking them before he left. | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:14 - Feb 2 with 1080 views | onehunglow |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:54 - Feb 2 by Boundy |
A few players went hiding last night ,r far too many times the only option for the pass was to a player either to his side or rear . |
But this is happenening all the time.
Coach’s job | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:21 - Feb 2 with 1060 views | nantywatcher |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:28 - Feb 2 by A_Fans_Dad |
"Grimes hit one awful free kick in the second half"
and how many aweful corners? |
Last night- none. | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:23 - Feb 2 with 1056 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 15:54 - Feb 2 by Boundy |
A few players went hiding last night ,r far too many times the only option for the pass was to a player either to his side or rear . |
Funny, I saw quite a few players making runs being totally ignored by the ball carrier. [Post edited 2 Feb 2022 16:23]
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:25 - Feb 2 with 1051 views | max936 |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 14:39 - Feb 2 by Catullus |
If he wants players to take risks then he needs to drop Grimes and Smith and play 2 up front.
This is not entertainment (bearing in mind I wasn't there last night) and it has become slow, predictable and boring. The person responsible for all this is the manager, he can change things but will he? |
We looked more purposeful until Naughts went off. |  |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:34 - Feb 2 with 1025 views | magicdaps10 |
100% there is a way forward.
Keep to the 4/5/1 and keep to the football, keep the passing. We need to have a bit more width where the Wingers will help obviously.
There is a bad feel at the club and on top of that the confidence is low on the pitch. The yanks have pulled the Jan window stunt and the worse possible time here, if we had another 2 new faces in last night, especially in the final 3rd then there would have been a better feel ftom the off last night.
We need a spark and the crowd have a big part to play on it, easy to knock but we have a big part to play.
Let's give them that support and let the knockers do so in front of their tvs, laptops, phones or whatever they use to watch the games. |  |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:43 - Feb 2 with 1008 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:34 - Feb 2 by magicdaps10 |
100% there is a way forward.
Keep to the 4/5/1 and keep to the football, keep the passing. We need to have a bit more width where the Wingers will help obviously.
There is a bad feel at the club and on top of that the confidence is low on the pitch. The yanks have pulled the Jan window stunt and the worse possible time here, if we had another 2 new faces in last night, especially in the final 3rd then there would have been a better feel ftom the off last night.
We need a spark and the crowd have a big part to play on it, easy to knock but we have a big part to play.
Let's give them that support and let the knockers do so in front of their tvs, laptops, phones or whatever they use to watch the games. |
Tell that to the droves of fans booing at the Liberty yesterday.
Wonder why. |  |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:45 - Feb 2 with 1011 views | Thornburyswan |
The positive side of the January window is that RM has his players with all the departures & arrivals he really only has Grimes & Nauts from the Cooper era, so we should see improvement over the next 19 games - we shall see! | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:47 - Feb 2 with 1003 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:45 - Feb 2 by Thornburyswan |
The positive side of the January window is that RM has his players with all the departures & arrivals he really only has Grimes & Nauts from the Cooper era, so we should see improvement over the next 19 games - we shall see! |
Fulton? | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 17:12 - Feb 2 with 961 views | onehunglow |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:34 - Feb 2 by magicdaps10 |
100% there is a way forward.
Keep to the 4/5/1 and keep to the football, keep the passing. We need to have a bit more width where the Wingers will help obviously.
There is a bad feel at the club and on top of that the confidence is low on the pitch. The yanks have pulled the Jan window stunt and the worse possible time here, if we had another 2 new faces in last night, especially in the final 3rd then there would have been a better feel ftom the off last night.
We need a spark and the crowd have a big part to play on it, easy to knock but we have a big part to play.
Let's give them that support and let the knockers do so in front of their tvs, laptops, phones or whatever they use to watch the games. |
Define “support” and look in the mirror at your soul when you do so.
No fans should be used as an excuse .
It disgusts me to see decent folk insulted like this .
They pay money to see their dreams and hopes and for some relief from an often shyte life.
It’s ok for super fans but matters Swans really do upset .
No real fan cannot be feeling so today
Can it all change ? Yes,it could | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 17:13 - Feb 2 with 962 views | Thornburyswan |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:47 - Feb 2 by A_Fans_Dad |
Fulton? |
Possibly but let’s see how many minutes he gets if Downes, Grimes & Smith all remain fit but you are right he has been here a while. | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 17:18 - Feb 2 with 949 views | onehunglow |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 17:13 - Feb 2 by Thornburyswan |
Possibly but let’s see how many minutes he gets if Downes, Grimes & Smith all remain fit but you are right he has been here a while. |
We could do with Smith being injured a while and then see | |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 18:38 - Feb 2 with 857 views | magicdaps10 |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 17:12 - Feb 2 by onehunglow |
Define “support” and look in the mirror at your soul when you do so.
No fans should be used as an excuse .
It disgusts me to see decent folk insulted like this .
They pay money to see their dreams and hopes and for some relief from an often shyte life.
It’s ok for super fans but matters Swans really do upset .
No real fan cannot be feeling so today
Can it all change ? Yes,it could |
Looked in the mirror at my soul.....all good with me.
Giving them the support that is needed in words, mind, body and soul.
Head held up high my side for support 👠| |
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| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 18:44 - Feb 2 with 843 views | shingle |
Certainly a way forward for the guy as it is highly unlikely he will walk backwards on his way out through the door. | | | |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 19:15 - Feb 2 with 806 views | Catullus |
| Is there a way ‘forwards’ from this for Russell Martin ? on 16:25 - Feb 2 by max936 |
We looked more purposeful until Naughts went off. |
Like I said, I wasn't there last night, because of work. I haven't seen any highlights either.
Grimes does have good days but far too often he slows things down when we need an instinctive pass. I will also criticise him for his set pieces, he's supposed to be our best player according to some.
I will also agree with whoever it was who asked what do we do in training, why are our set pieces so bad? Are we spending all our time playing triangles? | |
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