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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:10 - Aug 22 with 2872 views | onehunglow |
We've often disagreed but this article is bang on the money and nobody can seriously argue over the contents. | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:13 - Aug 22 with 2859 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Ian Walsh comes across as a bit confused.
What exactly is he advocating? They have spent £8m in the last 12 months. More than any other 12 month period in our football league history.
Is he wanting them to plunge the club into debt and keep throwing money at him until he decides he’s finally happy?
I don’t understand this latest push to put the blame on the owners in the last 48 hours.
I’m not their biggest fans, they have made mistakes such as not backing Cooper in January and also the Bob Bradley disaster…
But other than that they have been pretty good owners and would rather them running the club sensibly as opposed to someone like Vincent Tan who the club are entirely on life support with should he ever decide to call in his debts.
It seems to me that people just can’t bring themselves to finally admit Martin is not the manager some wanted him to be.
I guess Ian Walsh is in that camp too now. |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:19 - Aug 22 with 2853 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:13 - Aug 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
Ian Walsh comes across as a bit confused.
What exactly is he advocating? They have spent £8m in the last 12 months. More than any other 12 month period in our football league history.
Is he wanting them to plunge the club into debt and keep throwing money at him until he decides he’s finally happy?
I don’t understand this latest push to put the blame on the owners in the last 48 hours.
I’m not their biggest fans, they have made mistakes such as not backing Cooper in January and also the Bob Bradley disaster…
But other than that they have been pretty good owners and would rather them running the club sensibly as opposed to someone like Vincent Tan who the club are entirely on life support with should he ever decide to call in his debts.
It seems to me that people just can’t bring themselves to finally admit Martin is not the manager some wanted him to be.
I guess Ian Walsh is in that camp too now. |
Putting the emphasis on the real owners and decision makers of the club to’ make a decision is the main thrust. That is a decision, not just a financial one. |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:31 - Aug 22 with 2806 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:19 - Aug 22 by KeithHaynes |
Putting the emphasis on the real owners and decision makers of the club to’ make a decision is the main thrust. That is a decision, not just a financial one. |
Martin’s comments have landed on stoney ground with the fans looking around various places. A lot of fans seeing through them as the ‘passing the buck’ exercise that it clearly is.
Martin is on shaky ground with the owners due to his performance and he knows it, he even said it in the interview “the owners won’t be happy with me saying that”.
Transfers in
Obafemi
Piroe
Allen
Ntcham
Darling
Fisher
Downes
Wood
Sorinola
Joseph
Pato
Walsh
Ogbeta
Wolf
Williams
Laird
Christie
Burns
Transfers Out
Downes
Roberts
Lowe
Bidwell
Byers
The bloke has had far more than most managers. We are in the top 6 spenders in the league.
In the last 2 seasons there are 3 teams who have spent ZERO, they are all above us.
He needs to get a grip and you are right, the owners need to make a decision now and push the button.
Sell Piroe, finance a manager who can take the group forward. | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:40 - Aug 22 with 2799 views | PawelAbbott |
Martin has had 2 full transfer windows to bring in players he wants. We have spent a few million on players in that time.
He has shipped out pacey attacking players who have played in the first team and replaced them with players who couldn't make the grade in the Juniper league.
Our recruitment strategy makes less sense than the team tactics. How many defensive players do we need? Why bring in players on high fees, with contracts running down and then not play them at all.
Why remove all width and pace from the squad? | | | |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:48 - Aug 22 with 2777 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:40 - Aug 22 by PawelAbbott |
Martin has had 2 full transfer windows to bring in players he wants. We have spent a few million on players in that time.
He has shipped out pacey attacking players who have played in the first team and replaced them with players who couldn't make the grade in the Juniper league.
Our recruitment strategy makes less sense than the team tactics. How many defensive players do we need? Why bring in players on high fees, with contracts running down and then not play them at all.
Why remove all width and pace from the squad? |
All valid questions. Only one bloke can give you the answers. |  | | |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:56 - Aug 22 with 2751 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:40 - Aug 22 by PawelAbbott |
Martin has had 2 full transfer windows to bring in players he wants. We have spent a few million on players in that time.
He has shipped out pacey attacking players who have played in the first team and replaced them with players who couldn't make the grade in the Juniper league.
Our recruitment strategy makes less sense than the team tactics. How many defensive players do we need? Why bring in players on high fees, with contracts running down and then not play them at all.
Why remove all width and pace from the squad? |
You can’t bring in a player like Fisher for £400k or whatever it was, plus all the agents fees and singing on fees… increase his salary x10, and then complain the kitty is empty.
Especially when you have more than a competent keeper already at the club. Nothing against Fisher, he’s okay. We just didn’t need him.
It’s excuses stacked on top of excuses stacked on top of excuses.
He’s done with the bus journeys, the length of the grass, the lack of a break, the existence of a break, the players, the fans, the age of the team… it’s now the owners turn despite being given the benefit of record spending for us at this level.
One day he may just take responsibility… one day. | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 09:18 - Aug 22 with 2722 views | jojaca |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:56 - Aug 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
You can’t bring in a player like Fisher for £400k or whatever it was, plus all the agents fees and singing on fees… increase his salary x10, and then complain the kitty is empty.
Especially when you have more than a competent keeper already at the club. Nothing against Fisher, he’s okay. We just didn’t need him.
It’s excuses stacked on top of excuses stacked on top of excuses.
He’s done with the bus journeys, the length of the grass, the lack of a break, the existence of a break, the players, the fans, the age of the team… it’s now the owners turn despite being given the benefit of record spending for us at this level.
One day he may just take responsibility… one day. |
We didn't need Fisher and probably didn't need Darling and Wood. We have other urgent areas in the squad that needed addressing. Squad was full of competent goalkeepers and central defenders, but woefully short out down the flanks. Look at Nick Pope yesterday, excellent shot stopper, but didn't pass out short yesterday, kicked long on nearly every occasion. What posters are asking on here is to play to the strength of the players and a system to get the best results. |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 09:23 - Aug 22 with 2706 views | onehunglow |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 09:18 - Aug 22 by jojaca |
We didn't need Fisher and probably didn't need Darling and Wood. We have other urgent areas in the squad that needed addressing. Squad was full of competent goalkeepers and central defenders, but woefully short out down the flanks. Look at Nick Pope yesterday, excellent shot stopper, but didn't pass out short yesterday, kicked long on nearly every occasion. What posters are asking on here is to play to the strength of the players and a system to get the best results. |
Amen to that | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 09:44 - Aug 22 with 2663 views | jasper_T |
Didn't Kaplan step back from the board a couple of years ago? He's no more involved in running the club than any of the other non-director shareholders at this point. | | | |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 09:51 - Aug 22 with 2644 views | vetchonian |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:19 - Aug 22 by KeithHaynes |
Putting the emphasis on the real owners and decision makers of the club to’ make a decision is the main thrust. That is a decision, not just a financial one. |
Like a decision to change the manager? | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 10:06 - Aug 22 with 2628 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 09:44 - Aug 22 by jasper_T |
Didn't Kaplan step back from the board a couple of years ago? He's no more involved in running the club than any of the other non-director shareholders at this point. |
He’s a director. And he’s most certainly remains one of the board who continues to speak when it suits. At the forefront of everything since 2016. Stepping back means nothing other than to relinquish responsibility for decision making. Nothing has changed. He is still in control. And his position within the ownership group remains.
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 10:20 - Aug 22 with 2579 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 10:06 - Aug 22 by KeithHaynes |
He’s a director. And he’s most certainly remains one of the board who continues to speak when it suits. At the forefront of everything since 2016. Stepping back means nothing other than to relinquish responsibility for decision making. Nothing has changed. He is still in control. And his position within the ownership group remains.
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In the recent programme Huw Jenkins and Martin Morgan were listed as directors. I knew they still have shares but do they have any say in the running of the club? |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 11:13 - Aug 22 with 2465 views | jasper_T |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 10:06 - Aug 22 by KeithHaynes |
He’s a director. And he’s most certainly remains one of the board who continues to speak when it suits. At the forefront of everything since 2016. Stepping back means nothing other than to relinquish responsibility for decision making. Nothing has changed. He is still in control. And his position within the ownership group remains.
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Companies House shows 'Termination of appointment of Steve Kaplan as a director on 21 September 2020' and 'Cessation of Stephen Kaplan as a person with significant control on 21 September 2020'. [Post edited 22 Aug 2022 11:14]
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 12:09 - Aug 22 with 2362 views | Kerouac |
Ian Walsh has never said anything on the radio that ever added any insight, ever.
A monumentally stupid person...
...and I don't like saying that, because he is a Jack, but nevertheless it is true. |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 12:47 - Aug 22 with 2307 views | shandyjack |
Martin the ego has played a blinder with his latest deflection tactic. |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:00 - Aug 22 with 2269 views | cadleigh |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 12:47 - Aug 22 by shandyjack |
Martin the ego has played a blinder with his latest deflection tactic. |
Following the logic through, he (Martin) has basically said 'I am not going to achieve anything this season other than mid table mediocrity but it's not my fault, it's the fault of the owners because they won't give me the players I need'.
So what's his game plan? Hang on in there and hope that something changes before the start of next season? Even if you take what he said at face value as being the pure, unvarnished truth, it wouldn't reflect very well on in him if he stays in post knowing that this will be another wasted season, would it? | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:18 - Aug 22 with 2241 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 11:13 - Aug 22 by jasper_T |
Companies House shows 'Termination of appointment of Steve Kaplan as a director on 21 September 2020' and 'Cessation of Stephen Kaplan as a person with significant control on 21 September 2020'. [Post edited 22 Aug 2022 11:14]
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Indeed.
And he remains a director and joint ‘owner’ of Swansea City.
Obviously continued to be referred to as such.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62626041
Even though he said he was stepping down from being one. Had he not been involved any longer he wouldn’t have been mentioned in the article.
It’s well documented the information from last year. And none of it made a blind bit of difference.
Even today.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ex-swan-says-american
I think we were swizzled by words which shows the contempt some of these people have for the fans Jasper.
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:28 - Aug 22 with 2207 views | Badlands |
Doesn’t the CEO do thst? |  |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:33 - Aug 22 with 2195 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:28 - Aug 22 by Badlands |
Doesn’t the CEO do thst? |
Well, on behalf of Kaplan and Levien yes.
But of course not without their consent.
Let’s be honest if they were at the club they would be doing Winters job and there wouldn’t be any need for his stupid sized salary.
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:45 - Aug 22 with 2157 views | jasper_T |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:18 - Aug 22 by KeithHaynes |
Indeed.
And he remains a director and joint ‘owner’ of Swansea City.
Obviously continued to be referred to as such.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62626041
Even though he said he was stepping down from being one. Had he not been involved any longer he wouldn’t have been mentioned in the article.
It’s well documented the information from last year. And none of it made a blind bit of difference.
Even today.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ex-swan-says-american
I think we were swizzled by words which shows the contempt some of these people have for the fans Jasper.
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Sounds like Ian Walsh is getting confused between owners of Swansea City (a long list of shareholders) and people actually running the company. Might as well demand the Trust march in and sort things out, they're owners too. With a token director position. Kaplan is officially no longer a director and simply has money in the company that owns the majority of shares, along with Levein, some lawyers and a handful of minor celebrities.
Levein, Silverstein and Winter seem like the trio actually making decisions these days. Silverstein was in Swansea recently, so Walsh is moaning about nothing and making himself sound pretty silly with his "get back on their horses and get back to the States" twaddle. | | | |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 14:36 - Aug 22 with 2090 views | guthrieintherain |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 08:13 - Aug 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
Ian Walsh comes across as a bit confused.
What exactly is he advocating? They have spent £8m in the last 12 months. More than any other 12 month period in our football league history.
Is he wanting them to plunge the club into debt and keep throwing money at him until he decides he’s finally happy?
I don’t understand this latest push to put the blame on the owners in the last 48 hours.
I’m not their biggest fans, they have made mistakes such as not backing Cooper in January and also the Bob Bradley disaster…
But other than that they have been pretty good owners and would rather them running the club sensibly as opposed to someone like Vincent Tan who the club are entirely on life support with should he ever decide to call in his debts.
It seems to me that people just can’t bring themselves to finally admit Martin is not the manager some wanted him to be.
I guess Ian Walsh is in that camp too now. |
I saw your stats regarding the list of championship clubs spending I think we were 8th.
Any chance you could put this up alongside sales as well.
It's a bit like saying you bought a house for 300k after selling your old old one for 250k
Whilst a new buyer recently bought one for 250k without one to sell.
Thete needs to be a net spend column in the stats column
And to say the sales don't matter is just painting a picture to suit.
Not sticking up for Russ here by the way but sales need to be taken into consideration.
An example we have sold Downes 9 million Rodon 11 approx.
Going further back Mcburnie and James 35m approx combined.
Lots of championship clubs have not received these types of fees.
Just listing spending only tells half the story mate. [Post edited 22 Aug 2022 15:37]
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 15:02 - Aug 22 with 2060 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 13:45 - Aug 22 by jasper_T |
Sounds like Ian Walsh is getting confused between owners of Swansea City (a long list of shareholders) and people actually running the company. Might as well demand the Trust march in and sort things out, they're owners too. With a token director position. Kaplan is officially no longer a director and simply has money in the company that owns the majority of shares, along with Levein, some lawyers and a handful of minor celebrities.
Levein, Silverstein and Winter seem like the trio actually making decisions these days. Silverstein was in Swansea recently, so Walsh is moaning about nothing and making himself sound pretty silly with his "get back on their horses and get back to the States" twaddle. |
I can assure you Kaplan is a director. | |
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| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 15:34 - Aug 22 with 2018 views | QJumpingJack |
From official site:
DIRECTORS
Jason Levien
Julian Winter
Jake Silverstein
Sam Porter
Huw Jenkins
Martin Morgan
Terry Sinnett (supporter director)
Romie Chaudhari
Bobby Hernreich
Gareth Davies | | | |
| Jason Levien and Steve Kaplan : Be owners, take ownership and own this problem ! on 15:43 - Aug 22 with 1985 views | KeithHaynes |
Please accept my apologies. ðŸ™
I put my hands up as the information we had was that he still was in some form.
However, a big influence and part of the ownership group.
Mind you I thought Terry had stepped down ?
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