| April Jones 08:17 - Dec 16 with 2376 views | Brynmill_Jack |
A quite harrowing programmer was shown last night about the events around the disappearance of April (around ten years ago) , the search for her which took almost 6 months, the criminal investigation and the conviction of Mark Bridger on all counts for her abduction, murder and his perversion of the course of justice to try to hide his actions. Her body was never found.
In a way I wished I hadn’t watched it but hearing the facts around Bridger, his failure to admit to anything to help ease the suffering of her family and wider community (despite the forensic evidence) was sickening.
The judge gave him a lifetime in prison with no parole (the most the law could give). I am against capital punishment on the premise of the mistaken identity problem but I’d gladly have allowed an exception in this case.
Full marks to the police who had a very complicated investigation to conduct and with great diligence carefully constructed a water tight case (as it turned out) with great support from an Italian forensics team who had the unenviable task of microscopically examining bone fragments from Bridger’s fire to see if they were pork bones (as bridger claimed) or human - which they were found to be.
I still can’t get my head around how dark someone’s mind becomes to even consider this kind of heinous and frankly evil crime. I hope every day is a horror in jail for him but that won’t give him any sense of the terror he subjected that little girl to. |  |
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| April Jones on 08:52 - Dec 16 with 1008 views | 3swan |
I saw that it was going to be on, and made the decision that I wouldn't be able to watch it. Did read a few things at the time and didn't want to hear any more details, as I'm sure I would have turned it off.
A very sick individual. |  | | |
| April Jones on 08:57 - Dec 16 with 1005 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| April Jones on 08:52 - Dec 16 by 3swan |
I saw that it was going to be on, and made the decision that I wouldn't be able to watch it. Did read a few things at the time and didn't want to hear any more details, as I'm sure I would have turned it off.
A very sick individual. |
You made the right decision because I wish I hadn’t watched it either. I must take my hat off to the police and those members of the force tasked with going through computer images. No wonder they need counselling. | |
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| April Jones on 09:01 - Dec 16 with 1004 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
5 years old, yesterday a mum came in to the cafe where I'd stopped for lunch with three girls aged 4 to 6. They were on their way to see Granny. As kids do they started asking me questions they were so much fun. " Have you been good, because Santa won't come! ". " What did you put on your list for Santa?" They were just brilliant kids, how can anyone do harm to kids of that age is a complete mystery to me. |  |
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| April Jones on 09:05 - Dec 16 with 999 views | 3swan |
| April Jones on 08:57 - Dec 16 by Brynmill_Jack |
You made the right decision because I wish I hadn’t watched it either. I must take my hat off to the police and those members of the force tasked with going through computer images. No wonder they need counselling. |
When a child is involved I can't stomach it as I know I would scream at the TV. Fully agree with your comments about Police etc, it must be soul destroying.
Not necessarily about children but there doesn't seem to be a day pass without some sort of report about incomprehensible incidents. | | | |
| April Jones on 09:06 - Dec 16 with 998 views | Sirjohnalot |
| April Jones on 09:01 - Dec 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
5 years old, yesterday a mum came in to the cafe where I'd stopped for lunch with three girls aged 4 to 6. They were on their way to see Granny. As kids do they started asking me questions they were so much fun. " Have you been good, because Santa won't come! ". " What did you put on your list for Santa?" They were just brilliant kids, how can anyone do harm to kids of that age is a complete mystery to me. |
I’ve met two people over the here who were truly evil. Dead behind the eyes. Very scary |  | | |
| April Jones on 09:07 - Dec 16 with 997 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| April Jones on 09:01 - Dec 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
5 years old, yesterday a mum came in to the cafe where I'd stopped for lunch with three girls aged 4 to 6. They were on their way to see Granny. As kids do they started asking me questions they were so much fun. " Have you been good, because Santa won't come! ". " What did you put on your list for Santa?" They were just brilliant kids, how can anyone do harm to kids of that age is a complete mystery to me. |
I think she may have been seven (I could be wrong) but both ages are defenceless against evil people like Bridger. It’s a level of darkness way above any other crime (apart from the very elderly as they are just as helpless). Maybe the death penalty should be introduced for such cases where there is no possible doubt? I don’t know but they have no right to enjoy remaining alive (I know there’s no enjoyment in prison) which they’ve taken from the most vulnerable? It’s a very difficult question. | |
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| April Jones on 09:08 - Dec 16 with 990 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| April Jones on 09:06 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
I’ve met two people over the here who were truly evil. Dead behind the eyes. Very scary |
In relation to this case John? | |
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| April Jones on 09:10 - Dec 16 with 986 views | 3swan |
| April Jones on 09:07 - Dec 16 by Brynmill_Jack |
I think she may have been seven (I could be wrong) but both ages are defenceless against evil people like Bridger. It’s a level of darkness way above any other crime (apart from the very elderly as they are just as helpless). Maybe the death penalty should be introduced for such cases where there is no possible doubt? I don’t know but they have no right to enjoy remaining alive (I know there’s no enjoyment in prison) which they’ve taken from the most vulnerable? It’s a very difficult question. |
It is a very difficult question, and I understand the argument about 100% no doubt.
I know what side of the fence I'd drop. | | | |
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| April Jones on 09:14 - Dec 16 with 980 views | onehunglow |
Bridger should have faced the death penalty.
Interviewing these devious sewer rats is what brings out the best in detectives,as any emotion regarding the case has to be abandoned as a clear mind is essential to ensure that defence barristers arent given an opening .
Every day he is alive is an insult to us all.
Old Bill eh. | |
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| April Jones on 09:21 - Dec 16 with 970 views | Sirjohnalot |
| April Jones on 09:08 - Dec 16 by Brynmill_Jack |
In relation to this case John? |
Sorry, meant to say ‘over the years’ . I’d nothing to do with this case.
Psychopaths and the truly evil, are out there. Very rare, but they do exist.
One was only around 15 and about 5’5 but he was very very scary. Wouldn’t have thought twice about topping me, which he told me ‘but it’s alright, I don’t mind you, but don’t try to bullsht me, or I’ll hurt you’ | | | |
| April Jones on 09:28 - Dec 16 with 956 views | onehunglow |
I watched Anatomy of a Murder last night and thought of you.
Worth looking it up as the precedent for the defence here was in 1886 in Michigan with "irresistible defence" and the film was controversial for its portrayal of violation of legal canons. | |
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| April Jones on 09:41 - Dec 16 with 936 views | pencoedjack |
I watched it & wish I hadnt. |  | | |
| April Jones on 09:43 - Dec 16 with 931 views | onehunglow |
| April Jones on 09:41 - Dec 16 by pencoedjack |
I watched it & wish I hadnt. |
I saw a programme not that long after the case.
Make one angry doent it and feel so impotent .
Imagine Bridger not attending his sentencing | |
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| April Jones on 10:21 - Dec 16 with 904 views | raynor94 |
Huntley is another, what is the point of keeping these fiends alive |  |
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| April Jones on 10:32 - Dec 16 with 889 views | Sirjohnalot |
| April Jones on 10:21 - Dec 16 by raynor94 |
Huntley is another, what is the point of keeping these fiends alive |
Again, it is not about the individuals but the people who would inevitably be wrongly executed. Everyone who is convicted are convicted 'so that you (the jury) are sure'. Evidence emerges sometimes years later which exonerates them. People who are dead cannot be freed. There was exactly the same clamour to execute the Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4 (and the Cardiff 3). They would all be posthumously pardoned. No good if you are six feet under. | | | |
| April Jones on 11:53 - Dec 16 with 859 views | Flashberryjack |
| April Jones on 09:01 - Dec 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
5 years old, yesterday a mum came in to the cafe where I'd stopped for lunch with three girls aged 4 to 6. They were on their way to see Granny. As kids do they started asking me questions they were so much fun. " Have you been good, because Santa won't come! ". " What did you put on your list for Santa?" They were just brilliant kids, how can anyone do harm to kids of that age is a complete mystery to me. |
Hard to believe, isn't it ?
But there are many that would/have harmed them, that's why I'm in favour of the death penalty for these monsters. |  |
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| April Jones on 12:08 - Dec 16 with 855 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| April Jones on 10:21 - Dec 16 by raynor94 |
Huntley is another, what is the point of keeping these fiends alive |
He had his throat slashed and boiling water poured over his head whilst in prison which is incredibly unfortunate. It’s a shame he’s had to endure such ordeals. |  |
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| April Jones on 12:23 - Dec 16 with 834 views | controversial_jack |
| April Jones on 10:32 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
Again, it is not about the individuals but the people who would inevitably be wrongly executed. Everyone who is convicted are convicted 'so that you (the jury) are sure'. Evidence emerges sometimes years later which exonerates them. People who are dead cannot be freed. There was exactly the same clamour to execute the Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4 (and the Cardiff 3). They would all be posthumously pardoned. No good if you are six feet under. |
Pointless explaining to him, he sees things only in black or white. | | | |
| April Jones on 14:06 - Dec 16 with 807 views | onehunglow |
| April Jones on 10:21 - Dec 16 by raynor94 |
Huntley is another, what is the point of keeping these fiends alive |
'It is immoral for the state to take lives of criminals no matter what the offence" | |
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| April Jones on 16:14 - Dec 16 with 759 views | Flashberryjack |
| April Jones on 14:06 - Dec 16 by onehunglow |
'It is immoral for the state to take lives of criminals no matter what the offence" |
Would they have the same morals if it was their child, I think not. | |
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| April Jones on 17:18 - Dec 16 with 734 views | onehunglow |
| April Jones on 16:14 - Dec 16 by Flashberryjack |
Would they have the same morals if it was their child, I think not. |
If you check out a thread on Ps regarding this you will see the answer given when this very question was posed . We are all looking for justice
Often , guilty looking at a jury being put into doubt by learned counsel and being not guilty and on other hand when a victim of crime they want maximum punishment possible according to their standpoint
Nobody yet has justified a murderer being allowed to refuse to attend court for sentence
Much articulate posturing here but none questions WHY society allows this
Law says so … change it | |
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| April Jones on 17:27 - Dec 16 with 723 views | Sirjohnalot |
| April Jones on 17:18 - Dec 16 by onehunglow |
If you check out a thread on Ps regarding this you will see the answer given when this very question was posed . We are all looking for justice
Often , guilty looking at a jury being put into doubt by learned counsel and being not guilty and on other hand when a victim of crime they want maximum punishment possible according to their standpoint
Nobody yet has justified a murderer being allowed to refuse to attend court for sentence
Much articulate posturing here but none questions WHY society allows this
Law says so … change it |
I’ve explained it many times, you just won’t accept the realities of what happens in a court room | | | |
| April Jones on 17:44 - Dec 16 with 716 views | CountyJim |
| April Jones on 17:27 - Dec 16 by Sirjohnalot |
I’ve explained it many times, you just won’t accept the realities of what happens in a court room |
Bet you'd have rubbed your hands together if you was defence KC and you had to cross ohl  |  | | |
| April Jones on 18:11 - Dec 16 with 699 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| April Jones on 17:18 - Dec 16 by onehunglow |
If you check out a thread on Ps regarding this you will see the answer given when this very question was posed . We are all looking for justice
Often , guilty looking at a jury being put into doubt by learned counsel and being not guilty and on other hand when a victim of crime they want maximum punishment possible according to their standpoint
Nobody yet has justified a murderer being allowed to refuse to attend court for sentence
Much articulate posturing here but none questions WHY society allows this
Law says so … change it |
To put it into perspective a juror refusing to attend jury service faces a charge of contempt of court and a hefty fine. It can’t be much fun for jurors to have to sit through the most harrowing of evidence either. | |
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| April Jones on 20:06 - Dec 16 with 653 views | onehunglow |
| April Jones on 17:44 - Dec 16 by CountyJim |
Bet you'd have rubbed your hands together if you was defence KC and you had to cross ohl |
What the fark is the matter with you Jim.
You re gone | |
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