| General Election Thread 17:46 - May 22 with 73944 views | loftboy |
This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?
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| General Election Thread on 21:44 - May 24 with 2134 views | CateLeBonR |
| General Election Thread on 21:40 - May 24 by stowmarketrange |
Will they be anyone left? |
Would we notice if there weren't? |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 21:53 - May 24 with 2105 views | rbee |
I will be voting for the Apathetic Party. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 21:55 - May 24 with 2101 views | aston_hoop |
| General Election Thread on 21:53 - May 24 by rbee |
I will be voting for the Apathetic Party. |
I'll likely also be voting for a pathetic party, I'm not sure which one yet though. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 22:05 - May 24 with 2063 views | rbee |
| General Election Thread on 21:55 - May 24 by aston_hoop |
I'll likely also be voting for a pathetic party, I'm not sure which one yet though. |
Seek advice from Mr Hobson. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 22:15 - May 24 with 2024 views | kensalriser |
| General Election Thread on 21:35 - May 24 by HAYESBOY |
See Gove is off. Bless him. |
No one wants to be 2024's Michael Portillo. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 04:09 - May 25 with 1896 views | FredManRave |
| General Election Thread on 21:53 - May 24 by rbee |
I will be voting for the Apathetic Party. |
You've just named all parties.
Can you narrow it down a bit? |  |
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| General Election Thread on 07:29 - May 25 with 1827 views | HAYESBOY |
78 Tories stepping down at this election. Didn't realise it was that much.
Probably more to follow.
I would say, rats on a sinking ship, but at this rate they will need an aircraft carrier. |  |
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| General Election Thread on 07:57 - May 25 with 1789 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 07:29 - May 25 by HAYESBOY |
78 Tories stepping down at this election. Didn't realise it was that much.
Probably more to follow.
I would say, rats on a sinking ship, but at this rate they will need an aircraft carrier. |
Or change the analogy, they've realised the light at the end of the tunnel really is an oncoming train. The poor dears deserve what's coming. |  | | |
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| General Election Thread on 08:05 - May 25 with 1776 views | CiderwithRsie |
| General Election Thread on 19:46 - May 24 by numptydumpty |
And just to complicate the lack of options even more with the tragedy that is the conservatives currently and the intransigence of Starmer you have the Liberal Party.
Leader is Mr Ed Davy who was the post office minister for a great majority of the years that the post office horizon scandal was occurring
Good God !!!
Politics is like journalism - a very murky business option.... |
No he wasn't.
The contracts were set up in 1996; prosecutions started in 1999 and carried on until 2015, a total of 16 years. The cover-up went on for another 4 years or so - Alan Bates got his court case started in 2017 but it took two years of the PO lying to the court before the judgement was given in 2019.
Davey was PO Minister for just over 20 months of that time in 2010-2012, going into the role over ten years after it started.
Politics and journalism aren't that murky, the thing was covered extensively by Private Eye for most of the time and the BBC started broadcasting The Great Post Office Trial in 2020, more than three years before the ITV "Mr Bates" drama. All the facts have been out there for ages if anyone wants to bother looking them up. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:12 - May 25 with 1710 views | colinallcars |
I told my wife I'd print out a list of Tories standing down at the election but the printer ran out of ink. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:34 - May 25 with 1674 views | Snipper |
There is only one guarantee regarding the outcome of this general election. Whoever gets in, be it, Labour, Conservative, or a coalition, they’ll absolutely screw us.
Out of 650 or so MPs in parliament, there’s probably only a handful of honorable ones. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:40 - May 25 with 1665 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 09:34 - May 25 by Snipper |
There is only one guarantee regarding the outcome of this general election. Whoever gets in, be it, Labour, Conservative, or a coalition, they’ll absolutely screw us.
Out of 650 or so MPs in parliament, there’s probably only a handful of honorable ones. |
I wouldn't disagree other than to say the result is a forgone conclusion. Labour will win with a very large majority; not a good thing in a two party state. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 11:35 - May 25 with 1574 views | derbyhoop |
| General Election Thread on 21:35 - May 24 by HAYESBOY |
See Gove is off. Bless him. |
Surrey commuter belt constituency but not guaranteed to get elected. Especially if the LibDems benefit from tactical voting.
Still he'll have more time to get involved with QPR. Out of the frying pan into the fire? |  |
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| General Election Thread on 12:50 - May 25 with 1514 views | slmrstid |
Only took one day before Sunak got caught out, taking questions from "the public" at a McVitie's factory in Derbyshire that turned out to be a guy who didn't actually work there and coincidentally happened to be a Leicestershire Conservative Councillor. The question predictably being about immigration, boats and Rwanda.
This annoyed me in two ways:-
1. The Councillor. Absolute ball gagging suck up who no doubt felt very smug about his secret mission and chance to ask a question he was told to ask. Funnily enough, boats and Rwanda are very low down the priority list of people's concerns in the Midlands, given we're a long bloody way from the coast.
2. Sunak. Are these people that scared of getting uncomfortable questions that they have to fake it all? Pathetic. If you want to be in politics, because you are committed to public service, you should have to have the ability to answer any question put to you whether its something you like or not, not arrange to have some ballgagging prat ask you a softball you want to waffle on about.
I'd feel just as irritated for any politician of any party who got caught out with a stunt like this btw. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 13:58 - May 25 with 1438 views | SydneyRs |
| General Election Thread on 09:40 - May 25 by dmm |
I wouldn't disagree other than to say the result is a forgone conclusion. Labour will win with a very large majority; not a good thing in a two party state. |
They wouldn't get a large majority if the current government wasn't such an utter embarrassment. They themselves had a big majority and have pissed it up the wall with unbelievable incompetence and dishonesty.
They could have buried Labour and instead have buried themselves. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 13:58 - May 25 with 1438 views | essextaxiboy |
| General Election Thread on 12:50 - May 25 by slmrstid |
Only took one day before Sunak got caught out, taking questions from "the public" at a McVitie's factory in Derbyshire that turned out to be a guy who didn't actually work there and coincidentally happened to be a Leicestershire Conservative Councillor. The question predictably being about immigration, boats and Rwanda.
This annoyed me in two ways:-
1. The Councillor. Absolute ball gagging suck up who no doubt felt very smug about his secret mission and chance to ask a question he was told to ask. Funnily enough, boats and Rwanda are very low down the priority list of people's concerns in the Midlands, given we're a long bloody way from the coast.
2. Sunak. Are these people that scared of getting uncomfortable questions that they have to fake it all? Pathetic. If you want to be in politics, because you are committed to public service, you should have to have the ability to answer any question put to you whether its something you like or not, not arrange to have some ballgagging prat ask you a softball you want to waffle on about.
I'd feel just as irritated for any politician of any party who got caught out with a stunt like this btw. |
He got form , I remember when he was filling his car for an "all in it together " photo . Turned out it wasnt his car , he wasnt filling it and certainly wasnt paying the bill |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 14:08 - May 25 with 1417 views | dmm |
| General Election Thread on 13:58 - May 25 by SydneyRs |
They wouldn't get a large majority if the current government wasn't such an utter embarrassment. They themselves had a big majority and have pissed it up the wall with unbelievable incompetence and dishonesty.
They could have buried Labour and instead have buried themselves. |
I agree that this election is more about the rejection of the Tories than the election of Labour but to suggest they could have 'buried Labour' is ridiculous. After 14 years of utter chaos and incompetence that was never going to happen. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 14:17 - May 25 with 1398 views | qprxtc |
Anyone who votes differently to me is a c unt. Even if they vote the same as me, they’re a c unt.
Not voting is a c unty thing to do.
It’s unavoidable to be a c unt in life.
I’ve only had one pint so far. |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 14:44 - May 25 with 1378 views | colinallcars |
| General Election Thread on 14:17 - May 25 by qprxtc |
Anyone who votes differently to me is a c unt. Even if they vote the same as me, they’re a c unt.
Not voting is a c unty thing to do.
It’s unavoidable to be a c unt in life.
I’ve only had one pint so far. |
Pint of whisky ? | | | |
| First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 15:12 - May 25 with 1352 views | The_Beast1976 |
| First voted in 1985 as a naive 18 year old on 07:36 - May 24 by Gloucs_R |
He was not Labour, he was a puppet. Just like Biden and many many others.
WEF, BlackRock, etc..... All own you. We're being manipulated in a way never seen before.
There, that's my political view. |
This is absolutely spot on | | | |
| General Election Thread on 23:17 - May 25 with 1106 views | colinallcars |
I remember when my old dad heard Land Of Hope & Glory, he would sing:
Land of Hope & Glory,
Mother of the free,
Keep on voting Tory,
Till eternity…….. | | | |
| General Election Thread on 23:22 - May 25 with 1098 views | numptydumpty |
| General Election Thread on 08:05 - May 25 by CiderwithRsie |
No he wasn't.
The contracts were set up in 1996; prosecutions started in 1999 and carried on until 2015, a total of 16 years. The cover-up went on for another 4 years or so - Alan Bates got his court case started in 2017 but it took two years of the PO lying to the court before the judgement was given in 2019.
Davey was PO Minister for just over 20 months of that time in 2010-2012, going into the role over ten years after it started.
Politics and journalism aren't that murky, the thing was covered extensively by Private Eye for most of the time and the BBC started broadcasting The Great Post Office Trial in 2020, more than three years before the ITV "Mr Bates" drama. All the facts have been out there for ages if anyone wants to bother looking them up. |
Oh dear
2010 to 2012 the scandal was in the post office domain to be dealt with and was still swept under the carpet. Just because Ed Davey was one of few that ignored massive injustices, for me it's a disgrace.
There are some decent politicians as well as journalists but there are many in both professions especially at the higher levels, that are simply in it to see themselves sounding out.
Not sure really how you can credit a majority of journalists and politicians to be holier than thou. They really are not... [Post edited 25 May 23:24]
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| General Election Thread on 09:03 - May 26 with 961 views | QPR_Jim |
| General Election Thread on 23:22 - May 25 by numptydumpty |
Oh dear
2010 to 2012 the scandal was in the post office domain to be dealt with and was still swept under the carpet. Just because Ed Davey was one of few that ignored massive injustices, for me it's a disgrace.
There are some decent politicians as well as journalists but there are many in both professions especially at the higher levels, that are simply in it to see themselves sounding out.
Not sure really how you can credit a majority of journalists and politicians to be holier than thou. They really are not... [Post edited 25 May 23:24]
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I don't think the fact he was in that position means he ignored an injustice. At that point we're the PO still lying to the government? He may have been misinformed about the situation for all we know. If you can find anything that shows he knew the true situation and decided to bury it then you might have a point, but so far it's just assumptions.
I think it's fair to say the majority of MPs are decent people trying to do what they think is right for their constituency. It seems to mainly be the one's that want more power or to be celebrities that are more likely to be less honest as they try to wriggle their way into fame and power. But that's a handful out of the 650 MPs rather than the majority.
Also regarding journalism, is it the journalists fault that the public weren't interested until it was dramatised on ITV? If you can sell more papers publishing irrelevant nonsense about the royal family or predictions of snow, who's fault is that? |  | | |
| General Election Thread on 09:09 - May 26 with 953 views | CamberleyR |
| General Election Thread on 11:35 - May 25 by derbyhoop |
Surrey commuter belt constituency but not guaranteed to get elected. Especially if the LibDems benefit from tactical voting.
Still he'll have more time to get involved with QPR. Out of the frying pan into the fire? |
Definitely not guaranteed to get elected.
I grew up in Camberley and when I still lived there (last in 2012), he was my MP. The local council (Surrey Heath) had been solidly Tory and had always been the ruling party, often with very large majorities since the local government reorganisation in 1974. At one of the council elections in 1983 every one of the seats was Tory.
Even up to the 2015 local election they had 36 of the 40 seats. This changed in 2019 as the Lib Dems had been slowly gathering support and the Tories only just had a majority (18 out of 35). Come the 2023 local election I saw something I never thought would happen; not only were the Tories not the ruling party, they were absolutely obliterated, only 6 councillors elected with just a 17% share of the vote. Lib Dems got control with 24 out of 35.
I suppose in a roundabout way I'm saying that Gove saw the writing on the wall from last year and knew he would be on very thin ice in this election. [Post edited 26 May 14:19]
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