| Things you’d change about football? 14:56 - Dec 27 with 8699 views | rrrspricey |
So while we’re watching some prem highlights from yesterday, a mate at work and I were saying how we’ve becoming increasingly disillusioned by football over the past few years and discussed how we could change the game for the better if we were in charge.
1: Cheating: I know it’s an obvious one but there are a few things we can do about it. Firstly let’s call a spade a spade, it’s not simulation, it’s not being clever or having the right to go down, it’s a professional sportsman cheating and therefore should be treated as such. For blatant cases lengthy bans, something like 10 games, plus big fines for the player and club.
2: Dissent: The constant surrounding of referees to try and intimidate them into making/changing decisions. Captain only to speak to the ref, anyone else does, instant yellow
3: Injuries: So many players going down to either waste time , break up play or spoil an opposition’s momentum. There is absolutely no need to stop play to treat an injury, bring the physio on and let play continue around them.
4: Substitutions: As above, no need whatsoever to stop play to make a substitution, we have a 4th official, surely that’s enough to ensure the swap takes place? This will put a stop to those twÄts that couldn’t get off the pitch slower if their lives depended on it
5: Actually applying current rules: off the top of my head, keepers moving before pens — happens virtually every time, keepers 6 second rule — same, pen encroachment — same again
6: Advantage: How many times have you seen a ref play the advantage only for the that advantage to come to an end a few seconds later. How about taking another page from Rugby’s book and playing until either the referee decides an actual advantage has taken place or it’s obvious none has been gained.
7: Obstruction: I assume this rule (in the way it was when I was a kid) no longer exists. Shepherding the ball out of play while shielding the ball making no attempt to play it should be obstruction, simple
8: Players celebrating: So removing your shirt and/or celebrating with your own fans are both bookable offences but celebrating right in front of and gesturing to opposition fans isn’t, where’s the sense in that? Which if more likely to end in in an unsavoury incident? : Inciteful behaviour at a minimum which should end in a yellow |  | | |  |
| Things you’d change about football? on 02:15 - Jan 2 with 2015 views | OnlyMe |
| Things you’d change about football? on 07:48 - Dec 28 by Lblock |
Bring back drinking whilst watching and bring back terraces
Today’s game is, quite frankly, a load of old shit compared to what I first fell in love with. I loved it all back then from the smell of the onions on Chubby’s Grill to the feeling of danger in lots of games especially under the lights. Granted a lots changed for the better in the opinion of the average joe; and not just environmental health checking on Chubbys Grill; but it’s just everything about the game is so clinical and manufacturered now.
So why do I still go? Why am I annoyed I can’t make Millwall away tomorrow? Why do I religiously buy a season ticket?........ easy answer. I do that for everything that’s peripheral to the actual game. It’s all about meeting mates, having a few too many drinks, the comedy, the day out. Bloody football gets in the way but it’s the central excuse (if that makes sense?!?!)
Nostalgia...it ain’t what it used to be |
Nah. YOU ain't what you used to be.
Nostalgia is just fine if you can accept that you are now older, more cynical and more miserable and less healthy etc and nostalgia should just be memories of when you were young, inexperienced and had few fears or responsibilities and the World was wonderful. |  | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 07:49 - Jan 2 with 1962 views | themodfather |
poor refs and lineos, the standard is shocking.
get rid of agents, how have they improved the game, forget players wallets....have they improved the game? no
transfer window? it just creates panic buys and helps agents. | | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 08:03 - Jan 2 with 1957 views | jonno |
Get rid of Sky. |  | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 08:40 - Jan 2 with 1927 views | Esox_Lucius |
Salary caps and spending limits. |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 08:56 - Jan 2 with 1916 views | Dorse |
| Things you’d change about football? on 08:03 - Jan 2 by jonno |
Get rid of Sky. |
'Coming up next on Al Jazeera...' |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 08:57 - Jan 2 with 1916 views | sexton |
An independent timekeeper as in rugby union.
I'm constantly baffled why two minutes is added at the end of a first half with no goals, no injuries, no substitutions and no apparent timewasting. Yet a second half with all of those in abundance gets an extra three. |  | | |
| Things you’d change about football? (n/t) on 09:22 - Jan 2 with 1904 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Things you’d change about football? on 08:57 - Jan 2 by sexton |
An independent timekeeper as in rugby union.
I'm constantly baffled why two minutes is added at the end of a first half with no goals, no injuries, no substitutions and no apparent timewasting. Yet a second half with all of those in abundance gets an extra three. |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 09:23 - Jan 2 with 1900 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
Less Hype. | |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 09:56 - Jan 2 with 1880 views | BrianMcCarthy |
There used to be a section of 'Shoot!' magazine that invited juvenile nutters to write in with their ideas about how to change footy. Among the babbling drivel was one gem of a suggestion and I won't be happy until I see it - a triangular pitch with three goals and three teams playing each other at the same time. Ill admit that its imminent implementation makes things a small bit harder for Lee Hoos to find us a new pitch to play on, but think of walking in the door of a Saturday Night:-
"How'd ye get on, love?"
"Blackburn knocked us out of the FA Cup and Forest knocked us out of the League Cup, Blackburn beat Forest in the League. All three refs were bastids". |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 10:15 - Jan 2 with 1864 views | isawqpratwcity |
Bigger goals. |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 10:26 - Jan 2 with 1854 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Things you’d change about football? on 10:15 - Jan 2 by isawqpratwcity |
Bigger goals. |
Washington would still miss. |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 11:01 - Jan 2 with 1842 views | rsonist |
Unnecessary, nonsensical and insulting kit changes (and usually clashes) engineered purely to flog away shirts. Run out of control in recent years. When you see Madrid wear blue at the Nou Camp you know the game's completely gone.
https://twitter.com/kitcrimes
(Also "@ away kit watch" one word which this site isn't letting me post for some weird reason.)
Not only is an aesthetic violation but I genuinely don't know how the partially sighted get by a lot of the time.
And by the way, the actual reason you're not allowed to take your shirt off isn't inciting the crowd it's keeping the shirt sponsor in shot for the cameras... [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 11:07]
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| Things you’d change about football? on 15:15 - Jan 2 with 1780 views | PinnerPaul |
1) End VAR 'experiment' now before its too late &
2) Change handball law to '....deliberately handles the ball OR gains a significant advantage from the ball hitting his hand/arm. | | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 02:13 - Jan 4 with 1684 views | OnlyMe |
| Things you’d change about football? on 11:01 - Jan 2 by rsonist |
Unnecessary, nonsensical and insulting kit changes (and usually clashes) engineered purely to flog away shirts. Run out of control in recent years. When you see Madrid wear blue at the Nou Camp you know the game's completely gone.
https://twitter.com/kitcrimes
(Also "@ away kit watch" one word which this site isn't letting me post for some weird reason.)
Not only is an aesthetic violation but I genuinely don't know how the partially sighted get by a lot of the time.
And by the way, the actual reason you're not allowed to take your shirt off isn't inciting the crowd it's keeping the shirt sponsor in shot for the cameras... [Post edited 2 Jan 2018 11:07]
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THIS.
Apart from the shirt-removal thing which is obviously a bit of silliness. | | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 09:58 - Jan 4 with 1635 views | TacticalR |
A winter break of at least two weeks. |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 10:20 - Jan 4 with 1624 views | QPR_John |
| Things you’d change about football? on 09:58 - Jan 4 by TacticalR |
A winter break of at least two weeks. |
Unfortunately it would just be an excuse for the top clubs to earn more money with lucrative trips abroad | | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 10:50 - Jan 4 with 1603 views | robith |
| Things you’d change about football? on 08:40 - Jan 2 by Esox_Lucius |
Salary caps and spending limits. |
Pits and falls with this though: works in an enclosed environment (like American sports) but in rugby union it's been a massive mixed bag. Bigger clubs dope the limits by throwing in houses and cars outside of the salary so it's just cemented the us and them mix even more (though Exeter have done very well of late). Even with caps, it still favours the big boys cos you have to have the money to spend it.
France don't play at all, so they just hoover up the very best (though in rugby at least international level is still the pinnacle so unions can use that carrot to keep players domestic) and you have weird things in Ireland and Wales where to compete private individuals help subsidise salaries. It's not necessarily the panacea it appears |  | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 10:57 - Jan 4 with 1591 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Things you’d change about football? on 10:50 - Jan 4 by robith |
Pits and falls with this though: works in an enclosed environment (like American sports) but in rugby union it's been a massive mixed bag. Bigger clubs dope the limits by throwing in houses and cars outside of the salary so it's just cemented the us and them mix even more (though Exeter have done very well of late). Even with caps, it still favours the big boys cos you have to have the money to spend it.
France don't play at all, so they just hoover up the very best (though in rugby at least international level is still the pinnacle so unions can use that carrot to keep players domestic) and you have weird things in Ireland and Wales where to compete private individuals help subsidise salaries. It's not necessarily the panacea it appears |
Maybe if FAs paid players directly and did a sort of draft system? It would be better regulated I guess. |  | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 11:59 - Jan 4 with 1571 views | robith |
| Things you’d change about football? on 10:57 - Jan 4 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Maybe if FAs paid players directly and did a sort of draft system? It would be better regulated I guess. |
I guess this is the thing - it works when all players and clubs are owned by the league, so would people accept that. For eg in irish rugby Connacht has mostly been used as a development province where young players can get experience before going off to one of bigger provinces. Would any fans in football accept being treated like that? [Post edited 4 Jan 2018 12:00]
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| Things you’d change about football? on 13:17 - Jan 4 with 1538 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Things you’d change about football? on 11:59 - Jan 4 by robith |
I guess this is the thing - it works when all players and clubs are owned by the league, so would people accept that. For eg in irish rugby Connacht has mostly been used as a development province where young players can get experience before going off to one of bigger provinces. Would any fans in football accept being treated like that? [Post edited 4 Jan 2018 12:00]
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Not sure I could stomach watching us turn into a football factory for Chelsea, no. | | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 13:23 - Jan 4 with 1535 views | sevenhoop |
1 as someone else said, why allow keepers to take goal kicks from any side and not just the side it went out? a licence for delay
2 strict time limits imposed to take throw ins and kicks and kicks from keepers' hands
3 make the corner quadrant twice the size so no petty arguments about the poxy ball being in and out
4 for heaven's sake, stop players being able to sit down when they feel a slight twinge. Get all injured players (unless clearly injured) to walk off and be treated on the sidelines. |  | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 14:13 - Jan 4 with 1505 views | headhoops |
Managers.
They should be rotated so that each club has them in charge for 2 games - that way everyone in the Prem would have to suffer Hughes. |  |
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| Things you’d change about football? on 14:38 - Jan 4 with 1490 views | paulparker |
Id invite Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen , Dundee , Dundee Utd Hearts & Hibs into the FA Cup
3rd round , lets face it the cup now is about resting players its even spread to the championship and league 1 , tomorrows game will be Liverpool reserves vs Everton reserves , at least inviting some new teams into will breath some life into the cup and the Scottish teams would be bang up for this |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Things you’d change about football? on 14:47 - Jan 4 with 1482 views | PinnerPaul |
| Things you’d change about football? on 20:02 - Dec 27 by Antti_Heinola |
Good post pricey, agree with some, not with others.
1: Cheating: I know it’s an obvious one but there are a few things we can do about it. Firstly let’s call a spade a spade, it’s not simulation, it’s not being clever or having the right to go down, it’s a professional sportsman cheating and therefore should be treated as such. For blatant cases lengthy bans, something like 10 games, plus big fines for the player and club.
Every deliberate foul is 'cheating' - that's why they call it simulation. I'm in a huge, huge minority, but a deliberate foul to stop an attack makes me at least as annoyed as diving. And yet that is lauded as a good thing 'taking a yellow for the team' - all players, all fans say the same thing. But to me it's disgusting cheating. I hate it even when we do it. I honestly cannot see the difference - some will say at least those offenders are not trying to trick or fool or deceive anyone, but that's a bit like saying - 'yeah, he robbed that jewellery store, but he did it in broad daylight, in front of security cameras and left his name and address on the counter' - thievery is thievery - cheating is cheating. Diving is, for me, far less a problem than deliberate fouling.
2: Dissent: The constant surrounding of referees to try and intimidate them into making/changing decisions. Captain only to speak to the ref, anyone else does, instant yellow
Actually think this is miles better than it was since they clamped down a couple of years back. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's better than it was.
4: Substitutions: As above, no need whatsoever to stop play to make a substitution, we have a 4th official, surely that’s enough to ensure the swap takes place? This will put a stop to those twÄts that couldn’t get off the pitch slower if their lives depended on it
Think this is unworkable. But I think we should go back to three subs. Or three plus a keeper. Too many subs is a huge advantage to bigger clubs.
5: Actually applying current rules: off the top of my head, keepers moving before pens — happens virtually every time, keepers 6 second rule — same, pen encroachment — same again
Pinner might pick you up on this, but keepers can move as much as they want *on their line* before it's kicked. 6 second rule, i believe, doesn't exist anymore.
6: Advantage: How many times have you seen a ref play the advantage only for the that advantage to come to an end a few seconds later. How about taking another page from Rugby’s book and playing until either the referee decides an actual advantage has taken place or it’s obvious none has been gained.
I think refs already do this.
8: Players celebrating: So removing your shirt and/or celebrating with your own fans are both bookable offences but celebrating right in front of and gesturing to opposition fans isn’t, where’s the sense in that? Which if more likely to end in in an unsavoury incident? : Inciteful behaviour at a minimum which should end in a yellow
Agree, but neither should be a yellow. 'inciting fans' is a total nonsense. |
GK at pens - yes you're right
6 seconds law DOES still exist but no one enforces it! We're told if excessive time taken then we should warn GK verbally and if he does it again penalise
Advantage - yes that's what happens now. The subtle point is that an advantage 'wasted' ie an unhindered pass hit too hard is NOT the same as a player being tackled very soon after or the ball running away/ getting a deflection etc - in those cases advantage is said to not have 'accrued' and play IS brought back.
From the OP, I also think allowing physios on to fop to assess/treat players is worth trying.
If play ended up going near them and the injured player ref could still stop it then. | | | |
| Things you’d change about football? on 14:53 - Jan 4 with 1468 views | PinnerPaul |
| Things you’d change about football? on 00:36 - Dec 28 by PunteR |
Id like to see no rules football for one season. Performance enhancing drugs allowed.
Ok maybe not for a whole season but for one game at least.
No touching of the hair though of course. |
That first one isn't as daft as it sounds.
When football started laws were very few and basic.
Any disputes were sorted between them by the captains.
After a while these disputes became more in number and more difficult to find an agreement.
Anything they couldn't agree on was REFERRED to a neutral person watching on the sidleline - the 'referee' was born! | | | |
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