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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK 17:20 - Mar 12 with 36639 viewswestwalesed

Extraordinary statement by Mrs May and also quite scary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43377856

She has essentially said that the Russian Government is "highly likely" to have carried out a Chemical Attack on the United Kingdom, using a "military grade nerve agent" developed by the Russian Military and threatening hundreds of British Citizens. This is incredibly worrying.

On another note, Mr Corbyn in his response attempted to conflate donations from Russian Oligarchs to the Conservative Party with this act. Disgraceful.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 18:29 - Mar 15 with 1531 viewsWarwickHunt

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 14:10 - Mar 15 by trampie

Yes, I don't get taken in by the cosmopolitan crowd like you do.


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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 19:20 - Mar 15 with 1482 viewsEbo

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 18:24 - Mar 15 by Darran

Just said on Sky News that Putin is sending Yukanol Fukov over for talks with May.


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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 19:41 - Mar 15 with 1457 viewscontroversial_jack

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 18:08 - Mar 15 by Humpty

We are going to present the evidence to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

An independent body who will have their say on it.


They have already stated that Russia has destroyed it's entire stock of nerve agents
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 19:43 - Mar 15 with 1452 viewscontroversial_jack

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 18:00 - Mar 15 by londonlisa2001

Presumably because we don't want to admit to the entire world quite how we know what we do?


Presumably, we have the material in our possession, so cloak and dagger is hardly necessary
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 19:54 - Mar 15 with 1433 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 19:43 - Mar 15 by controversial_jack

Presumably, we have the material in our possession, so cloak and dagger is hardly necessary


That's the kind of detail we may not want to go into,chapter and verse, in public for obvious reasons.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:07 - Mar 15 with 1411 viewsHumpty

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 19:41 - Mar 15 by controversial_jack

They have already stated that Russia has destroyed it's entire stock of nerve agents


There's a difference between destroying your military stockpiles of chemical weapons and not having any CW at all.

That goes for the UK and US as well. They keep some for research purposes. They also have the ability to produce more.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:14 - Mar 15 with 1407 viewsTheResurrection

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 18:00 - Mar 15 by londonlisa2001

Presumably because we don't want to admit to the entire world quite how we know what we do?


Yes, let's keep it shrouded in mystery, oh, even though we're engaging half the world to stick up for us.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:27 - Mar 15 with 1370 viewsEbo

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:14 - Mar 15 by TheResurrection

Yes, let's keep it shrouded in mystery, oh, even though we're engaging half the world to stick up for us.
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Common sense and open thinking does not wash with some on this forum Chris.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:47 - Mar 15 with 1344 viewscontroversial_jack

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:07 - Mar 15 by Humpty

There's a difference between destroying your military stockpiles of chemical weapons and not having any CW at all.

That goes for the UK and US as well. They keep some for research purposes. They also have the ability to produce more.


I'l give in to your superior knowledge and then i'll email the OPCW and tell them they were wrong
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:53 - Mar 15 with 1330 viewsHumpty

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:47 - Mar 15 by controversial_jack

I'l give in to your superior knowledge and then i'll email the OPCW and tell them they were wrong


I don't claim to have superior knowledge. I'm not pretending to be an expert on the subject but I'm pretty sure countries like the US, UK and Russia will have some stocks for research purposes. I'd be amazed if they dont.

Do us a favour, when you email the OPCW tell them the UK is up to it too. They've been secretly producing VX at Porton Down and showing the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36606510
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 21:21 - Mar 15 with 1305 viewssherpajacob

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia-litvinenko/britain-does-u-turn-

don't forget Theresa as Home sec, blocked the original Litvinenko inquiry so as not to offend the Russians, but was over ruled and had to hold one in the end.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 21:36 - Mar 15 with 1286 viewsHumpty

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 21:21 - Mar 15 by sherpajacob

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia-litvinenko/britain-does-u-turn-

don't forget Theresa as Home sec, blocked the original Litvinenko inquiry so as not to offend the Russians, but was over ruled and had to hold one in the end.


She's changed her mind. She now wants war with Russia to deflect attention from Brexit.

Clase said so.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 21:38 - Mar 15 with 1284 viewsexiledclaseboy

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 21:36 - Mar 15 by Humpty

She's changed her mind. She now wants war with Russia to deflect attention from Brexit.

Clase said so.


Yeah I didnt though. Stop being a tinker.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 21:42 - Mar 15 with 1272 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

When everyone are losing their heads, frothing at the mouth .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/15/corbyn-defies-critics-calls-for

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 22:00 - Mar 15 with 1242 viewsKilkennyjack

To summarise:

1) Porton Down has acknowledged in publications it has never seen any Russian “novichoks”. The UK government has absolutely no “fingerprint” information such as impurities that can safely attribute this substance to Russia.
2) Until now, neither Porton Down nor the world’s experts at the Organisation for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) were convinced “Novichoks” even exist.
3) The UK is refusing to provide a sample to the OPCW.
4) “Novichoks” were specifically designed to be able to be manufactured from common ingredients on any scientific bench. The Americans dismantled and studied the facility that allegedly developed them. It is completely untrue only the Russians could make them, if anybody can.
5) The “Novichok” programme was in Uzbekistan not in Russia. Its legacy was inherited by the Americans during their alliance with Karimov, not by the Russians.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 22:03 - Mar 15 with 1236 viewsKilkennyjack

As recently as 2016 Dr Robin Black, Head of the Detection Laboratory at the UK’s only chemical weapons facility at Porton Down, a former colleague of Dr David Kelly, published in an extremely prestigious scientific journal that the evidence for the existence of Novichoks was scant and their composition unknown.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 22:36 - Mar 15 with 1208 viewssammylee3

The thurst for war with Russia great article... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-15/neocon-full-court-press-war-here
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 00:41 - Mar 16 with 1153 viewslondonlisa2001

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 20:14 - Mar 15 by TheResurrection

Yes, let's keep it shrouded in mystery, oh, even though we're engaging half the world to stick up for us.
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Lol. I don't mean we shouldn't tell the governments of the US, France, Germany etc etc. I meant we may not want to put it out over Facebook so that everyone on here knows.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 00:55 - Mar 16 with 1144 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

That’ll teach em





Who the Fack is this guy

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 00:59 - Mar 16 with 1139 viewsHumpty

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 00:55 - Mar 16 by oh_tommy_tommy

That’ll teach em





Who the Fack is this guy


I believe he's the work experience boy.

At least I hope he f*cking is.
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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 01:01 - Mar 16 with 1135 viewsEbo

Can you imagine the outrage if Corbyn did this? Why is she looking so happy?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/video/news/theresa-may-fist-bumps-a-member-of-public-du

*sorry to post a link from the S*n. My apologies

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 01:09 - Mar 16 with 1130 viewsDJack

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 22:00 - Mar 15 by Kilkennyjack

To summarise:

1) Porton Down has acknowledged in publications it has never seen any Russian “novichoks”. The UK government has absolutely no “fingerprint” information such as impurities that can safely attribute this substance to Russia.
2) Until now, neither Porton Down nor the world’s experts at the Organisation for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) were convinced “Novichoks” even exist.
3) The UK is refusing to provide a sample to the OPCW.
4) “Novichoks” were specifically designed to be able to be manufactured from common ingredients on any scientific bench. The Americans dismantled and studied the facility that allegedly developed them. It is completely untrue only the Russians could make them, if anybody can.
5) The “Novichok” programme was in Uzbekistan not in Russia. Its legacy was inherited by the Americans during their alliance with Karimov, not by the Russians.
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Horsesh1t!

1. is partly correct. But Russia will tell no one how to make it so it is the likely source ( and yes I know that one of those scientists who originally made it defected to the US)
2. Not true. Stocks were destroyed but if you have the formula you can make it again.
3. Show us where this has been stated by HMG or OPCW!
4.The old USSR kept all it's "new tech and research" SOLELY within it's borders. "Common or garden" tanks, rifle and bombs were deployed in it's satellite states. I also dispute " manufactured from common ingredients on any scientific bench." - Only specialised labs could do it safely.
5. Again wrong, Novichok was developed and stored in Russia as was all of it's secret tech.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 07:51 - Mar 16 with 1070 viewsKerouac

Investigators believe the nerve agent was put in his daughters suitcase before she left Moscow.

Kisses.

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 08:06 - Mar 16 with 1054 viewsKilkennyjack

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 00:55 - Mar 16 by oh_tommy_tommy

That’ll teach em





Who the Fack is this guy


This is that guy who used to be a fireplace salesman.

When he got fired, he became a Tory MP.

All fine then ....

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PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 08:27 - Mar 16 with 1035 viewsJack_Meoff

PM Statement on Chemical Attack in the UK on 00:55 - Mar 16 by oh_tommy_tommy

That’ll teach em





Who the Fack is this guy


'Go away and shut up?!'

That's not satire is it? Oh may days. He has the demeanour of someone you'd avoid eye contact with if they'd sidled up to you in Trade Centre Wales and tried to sell you a car.

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Should have let old Cronus speak for you Gav, he may have been more convincing...

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