| So temperatures not rising then 11:08 - Jan 3 with 19352 views | CountyJim |
2010-2019 wasn't as warm as the previous decade
Rather rubbishes global warming theories then that its getting hotter [Post edited 3 Jan 2020 11:08]
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| So temperatures not rising then on 12:56 - Jan 10 with 1196 views | Catullus |
| So temperatures not rising then on 23:37 - Jan 9 by BrynCartwright |
AFD is just mentally sick.
He needs to check himself into a clinic pronto.
He's obviously mentally unsound.
Scotia...please do not respond to him any more. |
That's harsh. After all where would we be if we stopped questioning things? Should we just accept all we are told?
AFD has a point of view and he's entitled to it. Disagree, debate, disprove but please don't just denigrate.
There's too much of it going on and where does it lead? |  |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 15:13 - Jan 10 with 1156 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| So temperatures not rising then on 23:31 - Jan 9 by Humpty |
Because the UN is a communist organisation and is paying scientists you disagree with to lie? |
I don't think the UN is a communist organisation.
Their Literature called "Agendas" states that their aim is a "One world Government or order" run by them of course.
Their spokespeople on Climate say that they want to replace Capitalism, as I discussed with Lisa before, because it is not consistent with "Sustainability".
She is somewhat in favour of that, but to replace it by communism would be a disaster as has been shown by every country that has tried the pure version.
No the UN doesn't pay them, Governments and Industry do that in the form of Grants.
If I ask you and pay you for data to show climate warming, what are you going to give me?
What the UN did do was to set up the IPCC to provide reports showing the affect of Humans on Climate Change, not to investigate all causes of Climate Change, it was written in to their charter.
A classic case of what that produces is what happened to the senior Climate Scientist Peter Ridd.
He made a public statement that the Australian Jame Cook University Scientists were exaggerating the damage that was occurring to the Great Barrier Reef (GBR).
You may remember the headlines
https://www.theatlantic.com/sc
Those scientists complained and Peter Ridd was sacked.
He has sued the Uni and won his case against them with very large compensation and penalties to the Uni.
https://www.theguardian.com/au
Since then it has come to light that 50% of the GBR that was inspected was damaged, not of the whole GBR.
Also to come to light was another Jamnes Cook scientist was found to be using fraudulent data in her papers.
https://www.thegwpf.com/new-al
Then just this year some Scientists with integrity looked at the paper of another bunch of James Cook scientists and in a 3 year study showed that they were wrong, fraud was not actually mentioned,just very poor work.
https://www.thegwpf.com/peter-
In another case a much acclaimed paper cited in an IPCC report on Ocean Heat Content had to be withdrawn.
https://www.thegwpf.com/major-
Note it was a Mathematician, not a Climate Scientist that identified the problems.
There was a similar case on sea level rise in 2010.
http://blogs.nature.com/climat
In another paper by IPPR the report on extreme weather had be changed due to exaggerating errors.
https://notalotofpeopleknowtha
Yet another case is a PNAS paper that has been requested to be withdrawn
https://notalotofpeopleknowtha
What is the common denominator in these very poor papers is that they were not only accepted and acclaimed in the press, but most also went though Pal review, sorry I meant peer review.
So lying or totally incompetent you decide.
But on the other side of the coin we have the case of Roger Pielke Jnr who is a climate warmist, a major contributor to the IPCC who disagreed that the data shows Extreme Weather or deaths etc.
He was hounded out of his job.
https://www.discovermagazine.c
This year he tried to get a new paper accepted but it was rejected, not by the reviewers, but by the Editor. The reason being it did not reference a paper that came out 4 months after his was submitted.
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| So temperatures not rising then on 15:35 - Jan 10 with 1147 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Re the Australian bush fires and Record temperatures due to global warming.
Take a look at the actual BOM Records.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/
Can somebody point me to the 2019/2020 ones please as this dumbo can't find them.
There is one point of interest, the 1974 bush fires were worse than now.
Take a look at the temperatures in 1974 compared to later years.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/c
or how about 1939 when 70% of Human CO2 had not been added to the atmaosphere
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/
Wierd or what. | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:01 - Jan 10 with 1139 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| So temperatures not rising then on 12:56 - Jan 10 by Catullus |
That's harsh. After all where would we be if we stopped questioning things? Should we just accept all we are told?
AFD has a point of view and he's entitled to it. Disagree, debate, disprove but please don't just denigrate.
There's too much of it going on and where does it lead? |
It is OK I am used by being called names by ignorant people. 
I do not profess to being mad, but I do to being obsessive.  | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:26 - Jan 10 with 1147 views | LeonWasGod |
| So temperatures not rising then on 15:35 - Jan 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
Re the Australian bush fires and Record temperatures due to global warming.
Take a look at the actual BOM Records.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/
Can somebody point me to the 2019/2020 ones please as this dumbo can't find them.
There is one point of interest, the 1974 bush fires were worse than now.
Take a look at the temperatures in 1974 compared to later years.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/c
or how about 1939 when 70% of Human CO2 had not been added to the atmaosphere
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/
Wierd or what. |
Why's it weird? You've just got two separate things there. Some temperature records, and an example of a catastrophic fire that caused significant damage and loss of life.
There isn't a simple relationship between weather, longer-term climate, wildfire and risk. Wildfire spread and intensity affected by local weather conditions at a point in time, the longer term seasonal conditions leading up to the fire, the triggering mechanism, fuel availability, local fire control measures, etc. Any losses depends on local vulnerability (fire protection measures, effective warnings, etc). And there are bound to be other relevant factors I'm not even aware of.
A destructive fire in 1939 due to high fuel availability and extreme drought conditions isn't incompatible with the view that fires may become more likely under a warming climate (if that leads to more intense of longer droughts). At the same time the risks and losses could well reduce as we get better at managing fire (and evidence from several different regions suggests that the number of fires and burnt area aren't increasing recently). |  | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:33 - Jan 10 with 1138 views | Highjack |
The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2, yet it’s colder than here and doesn’t have many fires. |  |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 16:34 - Jan 10 with 1135 views | LeonWasGod |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:33 - Jan 10 by Highjack |
The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2, yet it’s colder than here and doesn’t have many fires. |
I had you down as a Bounty man | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:48 - Jan 10 with 1126 views | Captain_Sham |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:33 - Jan 10 by Highjack |
The atmosphere of Mars is 95% CO2, yet it’s colder than here and doesn’t have many fires. |
95% of fk all is fk all |  |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 16:51 - Jan 10 with 1120 views | Highjack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:48 - Jan 10 by Captain_Sham |
95% of fk all is fk all |
Yeah but they don’t have bush fires. | |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 18:25 - Jan 10 with 1097 views | Captain_Sham |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:51 - Jan 10 by Highjack |
Yeah but they don’t have bush fires. |
They don't have bushes. Or oxygen. I dont even know who is joking on here anymore. There are some disturbingly daft people evidently. [Post edited 10 Jan 2020 18:28]
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| So temperatures not rising then on 20:09 - Jan 10 with 1062 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| So temperatures not rising then on 16:26 - Jan 10 by LeonWasGod |
Why's it weird? You've just got two separate things there. Some temperature records, and an example of a catastrophic fire that caused significant damage and loss of life.
There isn't a simple relationship between weather, longer-term climate, wildfire and risk. Wildfire spread and intensity affected by local weather conditions at a point in time, the longer term seasonal conditions leading up to the fire, the triggering mechanism, fuel availability, local fire control measures, etc. Any losses depends on local vulnerability (fire protection measures, effective warnings, etc). And there are bound to be other relevant factors I'm not even aware of.
A destructive fire in 1939 due to high fuel availability and extreme drought conditions isn't incompatible with the view that fires may become more likely under a warming climate (if that leads to more intense of longer droughts). At the same time the risks and losses could well reduce as we get better at managing fire (and evidence from several different regions suggests that the number of fires and burnt area aren't increasing recently). |
The point is there was a major drought, high temperatures & fires in 1939 without the rise in CO2.
However there were even worse fires in 1974 with no high temperature and no drought.
Which shows that you do not need CO2, high temps or a drought to have catastrophic fires in Australia, just lots of lovely fuel and something to start the fires. | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 20:11 - Jan 10 with 1062 views | LeonWasGod |
| So temperatures not rising then on 20:09 - Jan 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
The point is there was a major drought, high temperatures & fires in 1939 without the rise in CO2.
However there were even worse fires in 1974 with no high temperature and no drought.
Which shows that you do not need CO2, high temps or a drought to have catastrophic fires in Australia, just lots of lovely fuel and something to start the fires. |
Well yes, this is known. So it’s not weird. | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 20:51 - Jan 10 with 1048 views | Highjack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 18:25 - Jan 10 by Captain_Sham |
They don't have bushes. Or oxygen. I dont even know who is joking on here anymore. There are some disturbingly daft people evidently. [Post edited 10 Jan 2020 18:28]
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No there are no people on Mars, disturbingly daft or otherwise. | |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 20:56 - Jan 10 with 1041 views | Flashberryjack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 20:51 - Jan 10 by Highjack |
No there are no people on Mars, disturbingly daft or otherwise. |
How do you know ? maybe the Americans have found people living there, but chose to keep it a secret, they're very good at keeping secrets...apparently. |  |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 22:07 - Jan 10 with 1020 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| So temperatures not rising then on 20:11 - Jan 10 by LeonWasGod |
Well yes, this is known. So it’s not weird. |
Well you would never know based on the MSM coverage. | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 22:13 - Jan 10 with 1017 views | Highjack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 22:07 - Jan 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well you would never know based on the MSM coverage. |
Mars Space Mission coverage? How do you know about that? | |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 23:25 - Jan 10 with 1001 views | DJack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 22:13 - Jan 10 by Highjack |
Mars Space Mission coverage? How do you know about that? |
Cos he's a space cadet. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 00:31 - Jan 11 with 984 views | DJack |
So the arsonists claim is false then...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 15:31 - Jan 11 with 919 views | A_Fans_Dad |
How odd.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/
Who quotes the NSW police spokeman.
So in just 2 days it has gone from the police say one thing and then say the opposite.
Who can you believe, the MSM pushing Climate Change as the cause of everything or previous reports.
So now the teenage firefighter didn't set 7 fires after they said he did, because now they say only 1 fire was deliberately set. [Post edited 11 Jan 2020 15:51]
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| So temperatures not rising then on 15:35 - Jan 11 with 916 views | DJack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 15:31 - Jan 11 by A_Fans_Dad |
How odd.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/
Who quotes the NSW police spokeman.
So in just 2 days it has gone from the police say one thing and then say the opposite.
Who can you believe, the MSM pushing Climate Change as the cause of everything or previous reports.
So now the teenage firefighter didn't set 7 fires after they said he did, because now they say only 1 fire was deliberately set. [Post edited 11 Jan 2020 15:51]
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How odd, it's almost as if you are pushing an agenda...
"Claims that there had been 183 arrests for arson since the "start of the bushfire season" have also been rubbished, as the figures come from September 2019- before the start of this season. "
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Speaking to the Guardian, a Victoria Police spokeswoman said: "There is currently no intelligence to indicate that the fires in East Gippsland and the North East have been caused by arson or any other suspicious behaviour." | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| So temperatures not rising then on 15:37 - Jan 11 with 912 views | controversial_jack |
| So temperatures not rising then on 15:35 - Jan 11 by DJack |
How odd, it's almost as if you are pushing an agenda...
"Claims that there had been 183 arrests for arson since the "start of the bushfire season" have also been rubbished, as the figures come from September 2019- before the start of this season. "
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Speaking to the Guardian, a Victoria Police spokeswoman said: "There is currently no intelligence to indicate that the fires in East Gippsland and the North East have been caused by arson or any other suspicious behaviour." |
Yes, the arson claim is nonsense, about 1% of fires are arson, the rest caused by lightning strikes | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 15:40 - Jan 11 with 910 views | LeonWasGod |
| So temperatures not rising then on 22:07 - Jan 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well you would never know based on the MSM coverage. |
I agree on that. I’m surprised Meghan running off to Canada hasn’t been blamed on climate change. | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 15:59 - Jan 11 with 897 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| So temperatures not rising then on 15:37 - Jan 11 by controversial_jack |
Yes, the arson claim is nonsense, about 1% of fires are arson, the rest caused by lightning strikes |
I expect the actual truth of it all will come out during yet another commission in to the fires.
After every bad year they have a commission report and then ignore the findings. | | | |
| So temperatures not rising then on 00:03 - Jan 16 with 806 views | Glyn1 |
Last Decade Confirmed As The Warmest On Record
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/sci
I suppose I should have got suspicious when CountyJim didn't put a link in his post. |  |
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