| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 21:18 - Apr 6 with 13531 views | NotLoyal |
It’s the Wayne Rooney thread with added thread and thread. The type of thread your old granny used to use to thread your socks.
The Ref !
Tim Robinson will be the referee when Swansea City host Derby County at the Swansea.com Stadium on Saturday (3pm). The West Sussex official will be taking charge of a Swans game for the second time this season — having overseen the home win over Blackburn in February - and just the fourth time in total. He previously had the whistle for the away win at Reading during the 2018-19 season, and the defeat at Fulham the following campaign. Robinson will be assisted by Andrew Fox and Nigel Lugg, while Sam Allison will be the fourth official. Robinson has taken charge of 30 games in all competitions this season, dishing out 132 yellow cards 🟨 and six reds 🟥 including the one issued to Ryan Manning in that meeting with Blackburn. 132 yellows in 30 games ! Look out !
 Wayne Rooney looks ahead to Swansea City v Derby County 8th Apr 2022 10:16Derby boss Wayne Rooney really couldn’t have done anything more to get his side in to a position where they had half a chance of staying in the championship this season. The loss of twenty one points for administration issues and financial breaches have been the catalyst for what is fast looking like relegation.  0
Job Done ðŸ‘
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 00:26 - Apr 10 with 827 views | 73__73 |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 00:18 - Apr 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
Same as Russell then.
Opinion until he wins a European cup.
Until then it’s opinion vs opinion and who’s opinion is correct gets shown by what happens.
On this occasion, the way I suggested we should be playing very early on, appears to be correct. Doesn’t it. |
Of course it’s opinion v opinion. And that is your opinion doesn’t count and RM does. Very simple really or do you think you have influence over the team ? |  |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 00:35 - Apr 10 with 810 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 00:14 - Apr 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
I accept he is currently employed as a football manager with little to no success as of yet.
I also accept that I am in a different but equally analytical profession within sport who is employed to make such observations into the weaknesses in certain teams and set ups.
I also accept that what I said he should change very early on - he has done so.
That is accurate right? |
Football wise I would say we are still very much playing it about at the back, turning attack into defence and taking what some would deem unnecessary risks. This was demonstrated at Millwall and today and is still evidence of his desire to play possession based football.
The difference between the last two matches and previous ones where we have lost has been it has been successful.
So not sure, as one who has seen all our games this season, there has been a change in Martin's mindset.
Just that the players are getting better at executing his wishes.
I was led to understand that your professional knowledge lay in finance, not in sport. Is that not correct then ?
Or are you a financial analyst for bookmakers ? |  |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 00:37 - Apr 10 with 808 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 00:26 - Apr 10 by 73__73 |
Of course it’s opinion v opinion. And that is your opinion doesn’t count and RM does. Very simple really or do you think you have influence over the team ? |
Count in terms of what?
My opinion and Russell’s opinion gets proven by the same merits. If I give an opinion that shows itself to be correct, that doesn’t get nullified because I’m not a professional. If Russell gives an opinion that turns out incorrect, it doesn’t get nullified because he is a professional.
That’s the crux of it.
The system he brought has been thrown out and it’s been thrown out because it didn’t work. It didn’t work for the reasons many of us were saying from the start.
That’s right, isn’t it? |  |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 00:39 - Apr 10 with 804 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 00:37 - Apr 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
Count in terms of what?
My opinion and Russell’s opinion gets proven by the same merits. If I give an opinion that shows itself to be correct, that doesn’t get nullified because I’m not a professional. If Russell gives an opinion that turns out incorrect, it doesn’t get nullified because he is a professional.
That’s the crux of it.
The system he brought has been thrown out and it’s been thrown out because it didn’t work. It didn’t work for the reasons many of us were saying from the start.
That’s right, isn’t it? |
The people on here would give you a bit more credibility if you actually watched us play, perhaps? |  | | |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 00:45 - Apr 10 with 789 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 23:57 - Apr 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
Well I don’t, it was a tongue in cheek response to someone who thought I was encouraging the management team to read our views on here.
I made the point that if he had then he would have read the very changes he’s made now after week 3.
It wasn’t a request or a suggestion that he should. Unfortunately that was max misunderstanding a point I made regarding posters on here and the importance of honest critique. |
I never misunderstood anything mate you have consistently said that Martin needs to listen or has/ hasn't listened to what we have said all along, about what the team needs to do to be more productive, like i said you twist everything to suit your argument, you are poison on of this site you always have been, that's why you've been banned as often as you have, even this morning you tried to police the forum when its no business of yours to do so, totally out of order. |  |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 00:47 - Apr 10 with 785 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 00:45 - Apr 10 by max936 |
I never misunderstood anything mate you have consistently said that Martin needs to listen or has/ hasn't listened to what we have said all along, about what the team needs to do to be more productive, like i said you twist everything to suit your argument, you are poison on of this site you always have been, that's why you've been banned as often as you have, even this morning you tried to police the forum when its no business of yours to do so, totally out of order. |
Where have I said that?
Can you quote me saying Martin needs to listen to me, or has listened to me?
So I’m poison to this forum for giving my view which has proven to be accurate and you think I’m out of order because I asked someone to stop swearing at people? I’ll never stop that I’m afraid, people need to learn to discuss like adults.
Have a long hard think about what you just typed.
Prime case for you using the ignore function here as it’s clear when it comes to what I say you wind yourself up by changing it to whatever you find most unpalatable. [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 0:51]
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 01:14 - Apr 10 with 751 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 01:10 - Apr 10 by max936 |
I've no need to reconsider my views, you couldn't wind a clock up up let alone a man of my stature, be assured of that at least, you're just an obnoxious individual who thinks he's knows it all and attempts to belittle those that appose you, its pathetic and laughable and no I'd never never ignore posters of comical value like yourself
Goodnight for now, busy day tomorrow,  |
I’m not trying to wind you up. What on earth do you think is an attempt to wind you up?
I simply stated that asking someone to stop swearing on the forum and giving a considered view is perfect behaviour where as you tried to make out it was not.
I’m not belittling anyone, you seem to be trying to though. I’ve been perfectly reasonable, ironically on the face of some quite obnoxious posts.
If you don’t wish to ignore my posts then that’s okay, least you could do is try and disprove it though… easier said than done eh?
Night night.
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 01:24 - Apr 10 with 742 views | STID2017 |
BUMP :
Football wise I would say we are still very much playing it about at the back, turning attack into defence and taking what some would deem unnecessary risks. This was demonstrated at Millwall and today and is still evidence of his desire to play possession based football.
The difference between the last two matches and previous ones where we have lost has been it has been successful.
So not sure, as one who has seen all our games this season, there has been a change in Martin's mindset.
Just that the players are getting better at executing his wishes.
I was led to understand that your professional knowledge lay in finance, not in sport. Is that not correct then ?
Or are you a financial analyst for bookmakers ?
Also have actually played football at any level ( amateur or otherwise) or is it all just theories based on your opinion of how the Swans should play the game ? | |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 01:32 - Apr 10 with 736 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 01:24 - Apr 10 by STID2017 |
BUMP :
Football wise I would say we are still very much playing it about at the back, turning attack into defence and taking what some would deem unnecessary risks. This was demonstrated at Millwall and today and is still evidence of his desire to play possession based football.
The difference between the last two matches and previous ones where we have lost has been it has been successful.
So not sure, as one who has seen all our games this season, there has been a change in Martin's mindset.
Just that the players are getting better at executing his wishes.
I was led to understand that your professional knowledge lay in finance, not in sport. Is that not correct then ?
Or are you a financial analyst for bookmakers ?
Also have actually played football at any level ( amateur or otherwise) or is it all just theories based on your opinion of how the Swans should play the game ? |
Playing it out from the back and playing it around the back would be the difference there.
We are not looking to have hundreds of passes in and around our own box anymore, we do in the right situations but it’s vastly reduced.
Hence we have gone from 750 passes to 550, the bulk of that extra 200 would be around our own box. It’s also why our possession has gone from 75% to 55%, it’s not a coincidence and a direct consequence of a more direct style which naturally sacrifices possession and pass count.
It’s a concerted change. If they were getting better at it we would still be seeing 750 passes and 75% possession, but with positive results. But that isn’t the case, is it?
In order to get those positive results we have had to change the style, a change to what we said we should be doing early on. I even gave a sensible range for each of these things, which we are now hitting bang in the middle of regularly. That wouldn’t be possible without a clear and evident change.
Nope my expertise is in sport and the analytics of those sports. There is a financial element to it, but the prime driver behind my profession is analysing upcoming matches, teams and players and then converting that into probability of certain outcomes based on those thoughts.
Accuracy of those thoughts are then determined by the profitability of those markets, of which mine are extremely accurate as shown by the long term data. So much so I’ve been asked to move to New York soon and improve the analytics behind American based sports.
No I’m not a financial analyst for a bookmaker, that’s why you shouldn’t listen to others with an axe to grind, whom contrary to what they think - don’t know the first thing about me.
I don’t think it’s very appropriate to be asking such personal questions however though, given that the information gathered is often tried to be used for sinister purposes as opposed to genuine curiosity. Do you? Do I ask you these questions or just respond to what you say?
If you agree with my views then feel free to say so, if not then show me why you disagree. It would make a far better debate than asking me about my football career, as that is designed to take the discussion off the topic at hand.
That’s all this should be about, have I given an accurate view all along or not? Personally I don’t see how anyone can make any sort of argument against what I’ve said.
But of course I expected a few to try whilst not knowing why they are disagreeing, sadly that also proved correct. [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 2:19]
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 02:33 - Apr 10 with 709 views | DJack |
Every so often I log off for a while. It is that time again. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 02:39 - Apr 10 with 704 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 02:33 - Apr 10 by DJack |
Every so often I log off for a while. It is that time again. |
Yes I don’t blame you.
The sooner people leave this personal nonsense where it is and start discussing what is actually being typed the better.
Sadly that involves actually giving credit that some had called it right after all or putting a legible argument together against it. Both are understandably avoided like the plague.
Our style was unworkable, we have finally changed it and it’s paying dividends. Not sure what is so hard about recognising this… well I do, but it really shouldn’t be an issue. [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 2:43]
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 05:11 - Apr 10 with 676 views | Minesapint |
Some of you guys really need to reply to the post not the poster.
This was a decent thread. Then the usual suspects arrive and you can spot the exact moment that things turn personal and snide. Constant goading.
Dr P then gets the blame. History repeating itself yet again. I would suggest putting him on ignore but no doubt that would spoil your fun.
You are spoiling it for those of us who want to read an exchange of opinions.
We won another game. Can we not enjoy that as supporters of the same club? | | | |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 05:36 - Apr 10 with 662 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 (n/t) on 23:33 - Apr 9 by raynor94 |
Absolutely laughable Max, there's a couple on here who actually think they have changed Martin's way of playing. |
Who? Any examples Raynor?
Don’t think I’ve seen anyone suggest that. Are you mistaking people making a factual statement that Martin’s changes recently have been the exact obvious changes many have been banging on about since week 3? | |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 05:38 - Apr 10 with 660 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 05:11 - Apr 10 by Minesapint |
Some of you guys really need to reply to the post not the poster.
This was a decent thread. Then the usual suspects arrive and you can spot the exact moment that things turn personal and snide. Constant goading.
Dr P then gets the blame. History repeating itself yet again. I would suggest putting him on ignore but no doubt that would spoil your fun.
You are spoiling it for those of us who want to read an exchange of opinions.
We won another game. Can we not enjoy that as supporters of the same club? |
“This was a decent thread. Then the usual suspects arrive and you can spot the exact moment that things turn personal and snide. Constant goading.
Dr P then gets the blame.”
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Word perfect.
If agree then agree, if disagree then explain why.
Not a difficult concept, but for some it seems impossible.
Very tiresome.
Right, back to the thread anyone? [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 5:44]
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 07:07 - Apr 10 with 631 views | builthjack |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 01:10 - Apr 10 by max936 |
I've no need to reconsider my views, you couldn't wind a clock up up let alone a man of my stature, be assured of that at least, you're just an obnoxious individual who thinks he's knows it all and attempts to belittle those that appose you, its pathetic and laughable and no I'd never never ignore posters of comical value like yourself
Goodnight for now, busy day tomorrow, |
It gets tedious doesn't it. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:36 - Apr 10 with 594 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 05:38 - Apr 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
“This was a decent thread. Then the usual suspects arrive and you can spot the exact moment that things turn personal and snide. Constant goading.
Dr P then gets the blame.”
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Word perfect.
If agree then agree, if disagree then explain why.
Not a difficult concept, but for some it seems impossible.
Very tiresome.
Right, back to the thread anyone? [Post edited 10 Apr 2022 5:44]
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The thread is yesterday’s match day thread, you didn’t watch the match. | | | |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:00 - Apr 10 with 565 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:36 - Apr 10 by lifelong |
The thread is yesterday’s match day thread, you didn’t watch the match. |
I’m not allowed to talk about the result?
Is nobody allowed to talk about politics unless they are in the White House?
Christ people don’t half get utterly ridiculous on here.
As Builth says, very tiresome. | |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:04 - Apr 10 with 561 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:00 - Apr 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
I’m not allowed to talk about the result?
Is nobody allowed to talk about politics unless they are in the White House?
Christ people don’t half get utterly ridiculous on here.
As Builth says, very tiresome. |
Did you watch the Millwall match? | | | |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:06 - Apr 10 with 560 views | swan_si |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 08:36 - Apr 10 by lifelong |
The thread is yesterday’s match day thread, you didn’t watch the match. |
Even though he didn't watch the match, his other half found and read out the data he was after, why he had to be so detailed in his post i don't know.
Anyway got to go as my other half is going to read todays weather forecast to me.  |  | | |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:09 - Apr 10 with 554 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:06 - Apr 10 by swan_si |
Even though he didn't watch the match, his other half found and read out the data he was after, why he had to be so detailed in his post i don't know.
Anyway got to go as my other half is going to read todays weather forecast to me. |
Which post are you referring to?
Don’t think I spoke in detail about this match at all did I?
Are people being silly and trying to argue again? | |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:10 - Apr 10 with 553 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:04 - Apr 10 by lifelong |
Did you watch the Millwall match? |
Not watched any football this week squire, I’m away.
Why’s that? | |
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| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:13 - Apr 10 with 542 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:10 - Apr 10 by Dr_Parnassus |
Not watched any football this week squire, I’m away.
Why’s that? |
Cardiff? | | | |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:15 - Apr 10 with 521 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Wayne Rooney’s Derby County : Matchday Thread 21/22 on 09:13 - Apr 10 by lifelong |
Cardiff? |
Absolutely. You? | |
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