| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 AFTERMATH 17:56 - May 4 with 9402 views | KeithHaynes | Nowhere to hide for this one, it’s the last game of the season where stories of no shows won’t cut it. Here is a testicled eyed view ( I loved that ) of the final game of the season. Runners will be there no doubt. I had to do this thread as NL is still laughing after reading Twitter. The Ref really is Steve Martin So far this season, he has taken charge of 33 matches handing out 98 yellow cards and four reds. This weekend, he will be assisted by James Wilson and Nicholas Barnard. James Oldham will be the fourth official. Steve pictured above wears glasses on his days off. Swans Indie and Planet Swans speak to the opposition : QPR 5th May 2022 16:46For our final oppo interview of the season we welcome back Phil from Planet Swans and Keith from our sister site Swansea Independent to discuss Russell Martin’s first season of Championship football — neatly summarised by recent games with Reading and Bournemouth, both of which Swansea led by three goals only to draw. 1 Russell Martin confirms players will leave Swansea City 7th May 2022 06:53In three weeks time clubs will be able to negotiate and accept offers for players, that’s how short the closed season is. One club expecting a number of offers are Swansea City. And manager Russell Martin has spoken of the inevitable fact players will leave. 0 Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Joel Latibeaudiere, Kyle Naughton, Ryan Manning; Cyrus Christie, Flynn Downes, Matt Grimes (captain), Hannes Wolf; Joel Piroe, Cameron Congreve, Michael Obafemi. Substitutes: Ben Hamer, Jay Fulton, Korey Smith, Olivier Ntcham, Jamie Paterson, Azeem Abdulai, Joel Cotterill. Queens Park Rangers: Seny Dieng, Yoann Barbet (captain), Luke Amos, Lyndon Dykes, Ilias Chair, Dominic Ball, George Thomas, Sam McCallum, Dion Sanderson, Sam Field, Albert Adomah. Substitutes: Joe Walsh, Murphy Mahoney, Osman Kakay, Andre Dozzell, Andre Gray.
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:29 - May 7 with 1089 views | Johnw102 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:00 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | Well that was boring and poor. Was a typical end of season match but that was not good enough from some out there today! Interesting to know and see if the 2 offsides were called correctly, Wolf goal and the eventual winner, offside or not? I go into the summer with a clear idea if what is needed, speed out wide, a centre half or 2 and a creative 10. That no 10 was a cracking little player for QPR, going to miss it for the next few months but its another season chalked off. I thought it would be a struggle this season and even thought we might have got dragged into a relegation battle, latter didn't really happen so can grumble too much. Think the picture became clearer as the season went in as to what is needed and today's game really highlighted the whole season in 90mins AND summed up with that Patterson shot towards the end of the game 🤦â€â™‚ï¸ Buckle up for an interesting summer all. |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:32 - May 7 with 1074 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:29 - May 7 by Johnw102 | I was level with their goal and not offside. |
Yeah, saw it and was on plus the Wolf goal was a mile onside... More onside than the QPR goal. Ah well, football can be fine lines.... Not worth getting concerned or worked up about it hey. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:35 - May 7 with 1056 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:00 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | Well that was boring and poor. Was a typical end of season match but that was not good enough from some out there today! Interesting to know and see if the 2 offsides were called correctly, Wolf goal and the eventual winner, offside or not? I go into the summer with a clear idea if what is needed, speed out wide, a centre half or 2 and a creative 10. That no 10 was a cracking little player for QPR, going to miss it for the next few months but its another season chalked off. I thought it would be a struggle this season and even thought we might have got dragged into a relegation battle, latter didn't really happen so can grumble too much. Think the picture became clearer as the season went in as to what is needed and today's game really highlighted the whole season in 90mins AND summed up with that Patterson shot towards the end of the game 🤦â€â™‚ï¸ Buckle up for an interesting summer all. |
You highlight "speed out wide" as what is most urgently needed. Considering Russell Martin's only approach to setting his team up explicitly excludes making use of fast players in wide position, will you acknowledge that what we need cannot be / will not be achieved under Russell Martin? |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:37 - May 7 with 1056 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 15:21 - May 7 by max936 | This. This ridiculous idea of Fisher coming out to the edge and past his penalty area to pass the ball around is exactly that Fg Ridiculous. I keep saying it, but I'll say it again Martin as got Pep's idea's around the way he wants the team to play, but the players at his disposal ain't got the quality, ability, guile call it what you will, to play that way, its a fantasy concept all in Martins head and it needs shaking out of him. ASAP. |
I pointed that out a few weeks ago , fine once or twice but to continue it even when the need to get forward quicker , the times it happened then hitting the ball long with no discernible advantage ( pulling their midfield / defenders out of position) seemed a total waste of time , put us under pressure and gave them opportunities other wise they wouldn't have had . |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:38 - May 7 with 1054 views | swan65split | Typical end of the season bore from us, QPR at least showed some spirit, maybe thats what is needed from us as well! Not seen/heard what Martins thoughts are yet, but I have no doubt that Martin now knows he has to deliver next season......November may be interesting.or not. |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:39 - May 7 with 1044 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:35 - May 7 by DwightYorkeSuperstar | You highlight "speed out wide" as what is most urgently needed. Considering Russell Martin's only approach to setting his team up explicitly excludes making use of fast players in wide position, will you acknowledge that what we need cannot be / will not be achieved under Russell Martin? |
I didn't say it was urgent. Ethan Laird was very quick and play out wide on the right. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:53 - May 7 with 984 views | cadleigh |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:00 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | Well that was boring and poor. Was a typical end of season match but that was not good enough from some out there today! Interesting to know and see if the 2 offsides were called correctly, Wolf goal and the eventual winner, offside or not? I go into the summer with a clear idea if what is needed, speed out wide, a centre half or 2 and a creative 10. That no 10 was a cracking little player for QPR, going to miss it for the next few months but its another season chalked off. I thought it would be a struggle this season and even thought we might have got dragged into a relegation battle, latter didn't really happen so can grumble too much. Think the picture became clearer as the season went in as to what is needed and today's game really highlighted the whole season in 90mins AND summed up with that Patterson shot towards the end of the game 🤦â€â™‚ï¸ Buckle up for an interesting summer all. |
It sounds from your post as though you think Martin's masterplan is a good one, and he has the managerial skills to carry it out, but is lacking the players to achieve it at the moment? Fair? |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:16 - May 7 with 938 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:53 - May 7 by cadleigh | It sounds from your post as though you think Martin's masterplan is a good one, and he has the managerial skills to carry it out, but is lacking the players to achieve it at the moment? Fair? |
It's a plan that asks a lot more of players and certainly is achievable. Its clear that we over pass on occasions but that's due to the lack of movement from midfield/attack, a few tweaks and it can explode for the better for sure. Ultimately its down to having players who can play it but Martin needs to get those right players in, he gets the right players in coupled with the massive improvement in passing and accepting passes we have seen this season AND I believe the rocket can launch. It might need ala Sousa to Rodgers where another manager takes it on, maybe Martin can't take it any further but I have always been happy for him to implement his style this season, said it before and will say it again, if come October/November and we are struggling then it might be time to change, saying that, I don't expect to see us top 8 next season as nice it would be.......realistically I hope for a solid mid table season with the odd push on and odd setback, saying that mind, I shall see what the summer brings. I just try to be understanding of the situation and look at it as sensible as I can.....we have a lot of talent in the team but there are weakness in there aswell, we can't forget that the better players we have are also very young and are still learning. I hope that answers your question as it certainly is a hard one to call with all things considered. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:26 - May 7 with 908 views | AndyCole |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:16 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | It's a plan that asks a lot more of players and certainly is achievable. Its clear that we over pass on occasions but that's due to the lack of movement from midfield/attack, a few tweaks and it can explode for the better for sure. Ultimately its down to having players who can play it but Martin needs to get those right players in, he gets the right players in coupled with the massive improvement in passing and accepting passes we have seen this season AND I believe the rocket can launch. It might need ala Sousa to Rodgers where another manager takes it on, maybe Martin can't take it any further but I have always been happy for him to implement his style this season, said it before and will say it again, if come October/November and we are struggling then it might be time to change, saying that, I don't expect to see us top 8 next season as nice it would be.......realistically I hope for a solid mid table season with the odd push on and odd setback, saying that mind, I shall see what the summer brings. I just try to be understanding of the situation and look at it as sensible as I can.....we have a lot of talent in the team but there are weakness in there aswell, we can't forget that the better players we have are also very young and are still learning. I hope that answers your question as it certainly is a hard one to call with all things considered. |
Daps, with all due respect what you say and how you say it is an embarrassment to proper, intelligent fans. Here, there and everywhere Swansea City. The barometer of ridicule next door. Which ofc isn't a good look. Give yourself a rest, dig deep, re-read some proper insight from proper posters on here, get your head out of your rear end and come back stronger next term. There's a bloke from the Shires, now banned on here - who always cites you as 'that tw*t' on SI who always gets its wrong, new signings etc etc. You're lowering the tone, not just for brand Martin and brand Daps but most importantly brand SI. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:27 - May 7 with 907 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 16:39 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | I didn't say it was urgent. Ethan Laird was very quick and play out wide on the right. |
Laird was always cutting inside rather than taking his man down the line. Christie does it too. As if we weren't narrow enough already. |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:34 - May 7 with 890 views | cadleigh |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:16 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | It's a plan that asks a lot more of players and certainly is achievable. Its clear that we over pass on occasions but that's due to the lack of movement from midfield/attack, a few tweaks and it can explode for the better for sure. Ultimately its down to having players who can play it but Martin needs to get those right players in, he gets the right players in coupled with the massive improvement in passing and accepting passes we have seen this season AND I believe the rocket can launch. It might need ala Sousa to Rodgers where another manager takes it on, maybe Martin can't take it any further but I have always been happy for him to implement his style this season, said it before and will say it again, if come October/November and we are struggling then it might be time to change, saying that, I don't expect to see us top 8 next season as nice it would be.......realistically I hope for a solid mid table season with the odd push on and odd setback, saying that mind, I shall see what the summer brings. I just try to be understanding of the situation and look at it as sensible as I can.....we have a lot of talent in the team but there are weakness in there aswell, we can't forget that the better players we have are also very young and are still learning. I hope that answers your question as it certainly is a hard one to call with all things considered. |
It does - thanks for taking the time to reply so fully. I would love to see Martin's project succeed. I fear though he has too many flaws for that to happen. As a young and still relatively inexperienced manager he both deserved and needed objective counsel on those development issues that I can't see him getting. Issues with his man management, player selection, adapting both pre-game and in-game to the opposition. All of these need work. He's obviously not going toget that from Winter. He might have got it from Tatey, Scott or even Allen but those horses have bolted. I just can't see an extra couple of new faces making the difference, not with the loss of key forwards we are likely to see this summer. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:54 - May 7 with 852 views | Badlands | Players on the beach for weeks. Today was a shocker made worse by not having a replacement defender on the bench. They scored as Burnes didn’t know how to defend. Nothing wrong with playing out from the back or playing back is it has a purpose but yet again the midfield stood in line across the pitch. Keeper (whose distribution must be the worst of any we have had) and backs had no where to go. When the ball was played forward there was rarely anyone to meet it or challenge for it. I never want to see Wolfe in a Swans shirt again. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:54 - May 7 with 848 views | AndyCole |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:34 - May 7 by cadleigh | It does - thanks for taking the time to reply so fully. I would love to see Martin's project succeed. I fear though he has too many flaws for that to happen. As a young and still relatively inexperienced manager he both deserved and needed objective counsel on those development issues that I can't see him getting. Issues with his man management, player selection, adapting both pre-game and in-game to the opposition. All of these need work. He's obviously not going toget that from Winter. He might have got it from Tatey, Scott or even Allen but those horses have bolted. I just can't see an extra couple of new faces making the difference, not with the loss of key forwards we are likely to see this summer. |
It's far worse than that Cadleigh (good to see the new influx of proper, insightful fans, speaking out against the grain of sheeple). Martin shouldn't have needed the counsel you suggest. If it had been proffered, Martin will absolutely have rejected it, such is his narrow minded arrogance of all things brand Martin. Proper fans here have a duty to call out this chancer for who he is: - lords it up in Sell-out Martin Morgan's mansion, way down by the sea overlooking our iconic Three Cliffs Bay - bins Tatey - binned Piroe, unceremoniously at the outset, strips him of the #9 jersey. Fact, from the horse's mouth - gives the #9 jersey to Oba, then bins him - tells Oba he 'doesn't run enough'. Fact, from the horse's mouth - gets Allen binned (thru desperate Winter) - facks up Pato, again (Pato strop#2) - etc etc Martin Out, along with his feeble sheeple. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:00 - May 7 with 845 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:26 - May 7 by AndyCole | Daps, with all due respect what you say and how you say it is an embarrassment to proper, intelligent fans. Here, there and everywhere Swansea City. The barometer of ridicule next door. Which ofc isn't a good look. Give yourself a rest, dig deep, re-read some proper insight from proper posters on here, get your head out of your rear end and come back stronger next term. There's a bloke from the Shires, now banned on here - who always cites you as 'that tw*t' on SI who always gets its wrong, new signings etc etc. You're lowering the tone, not just for brand Martin and brand Daps but most importantly brand SI. |
You are going over old ground again AC, it's pointless going down the ridicule route again. People are entitled to their opinion AC, I haven't read what you are suggesting on the other site so won't be commenting on that unless you can send me some proof of it and I can then address it with said poster......obviously if nothing is forthcoming then I will treat it as stirring the pot from yourself. My advice, find a mirror and read your post to yourself in said mirror 👠|  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:01 - May 7 with 839 views | angryjack | Only one direction we are heading with Martin at the helm..league 1 here we come,and also crowds will be dwindling |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:04 - May 7 with 840 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:54 - May 7 by Badlands | Players on the beach for weeks. Today was a shocker made worse by not having a replacement defender on the bench. They scored as Burnes didn’t know how to defend. Nothing wrong with playing out from the back or playing back is it has a purpose but yet again the midfield stood in line across the pitch. Keeper (whose distribution must be the worst of any we have had) and backs had no where to go. When the ball was played forward there was rarely anyone to meet it or challenge for it. I never want to see Wolfe in a Swans shirt again. |
It might have escaped your notice but Burns never played today, he wasn't even on the bench so I'd exonerate him from any blame today |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:12 - May 7 with 829 views | krunchykarrot |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 17:27 - May 7 by jasper_T | Laird was always cutting inside rather than taking his man down the line. Christie does it too. As if we weren't narrow enough already. |
Christy was awful today, didnt help CamCon at all had a dreadful first 20 . Add into that Downes and Piroe having their worst games for us didnt help. Is there a reason we dont go into Wolf or Chrsity early form open play, it seems we only hit them when our GK has no options which was a lot today, people were shouting around me for players to move it was that static. Would i keep our WB's next season no i wouldnt Christy simple square ball to Obafemi today summed him up. Wolf looks like he can play but has disapointed on the whole. |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:21 - May 7 with 807 views | max936 |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:12 - May 7 by krunchykarrot | Christy was awful today, didnt help CamCon at all had a dreadful first 20 . Add into that Downes and Piroe having their worst games for us didnt help. Is there a reason we dont go into Wolf or Chrsity early form open play, it seems we only hit them when our GK has no options which was a lot today, people were shouting around me for players to move it was that static. Would i keep our WB's next season no i wouldnt Christy simple square ball to Obafemi today summed him up. Wolf looks like he can play but has disapointed on the whole. |
Christie has been disappointing in probably most of the last 10 games, not sure he's the answer, but we are where we are so he's probably the best we can get in our price range, he's a decent player, but he hasn't really been at the races lately. [Post edited 7 May 2022 18:38]
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day Thread 21/22 on 18:22 - May 7 with 800 views | AndyCole |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : Match day Thread 21/22 on 16:43 - May 6 by Badlands | You really are desperate for us to lose. Wow! Two seasons of utter ar^e clinchingly negative, boring guff and no promotion. This season has been excruciating in part buy sublime in others. |
Sublime ? Stupid Is As Stupid Does.. 15th, with an embarrassing brand which most away fans laugh at, and most proper home fans cringe at. Get a grip, ffs. Time for tired old folk like you to drop your Cooper hatred and refocus on the here and now. Clueless, hopeless in the lands of the not so good. As per, all season. 'Excruciating', for us proper fans accustomed to winning effectively, entertainingly, efficiently. Martin Out. Along with the feeble sheeple. |  |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:22 - May 7 with 803 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 15:24 - May 7 by Dr_Parnassus | You are preaching to the converted, I’ve been saying it most of this season. It’s horrific. But I can’t agree that nobody still believes in him. Every week we have had the same conversations with the same people telling us we are wrong and just being negative. |
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| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:29 - May 7 with 786 views | TenbySwan | Big problem this season has been inconsistency. At times we have been great other times we have been dreadful. Sometimes within the same game! I really was hoping for better today. Very disappointing for all and a big downer to end the season. Trouble is,it's going to a couple of months before we go again. At the moment it is a glass half empty for me and difficult to have enthusiasm for a promotion challenge next year. |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:37 - May 7 with 763 views | shingle | I was there but was so bored and left 15 minutes before the end so at least missed the QPR goal, i could also not stomach watching the so called lap of honour as 17 defeats and 70 goals conceded is nothing to celebrate as far as i am concerned, i will also now put away my list of the delusional`s on here and bring it out once Martin walks or is sacked which should be around xmas time. |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:49 - May 7 with 742 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:29 - May 7 by TenbySwan | Big problem this season has been inconsistency. At times we have been great other times we have been dreadful. Sometimes within the same game! I really was hoping for better today. Very disappointing for all and a big downer to end the season. Trouble is,it's going to a couple of months before we go again. At the moment it is a glass half empty for me and difficult to have enthusiasm for a promotion challenge next year. |
Really don't know what's goin to change. He's had all season to steadily improve performances and results, a full season mind. Yet we go 1 step forward and 2 steps back consistently. Very depressing. |  | |  |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 19:02 - May 7 with 715 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Queens Park Rangers : THE THREAD 21/22 Saturday UPDATE on 18:00 - May 7 by magicdaps10 | You are going over old ground again AC, it's pointless going down the ridicule route again. People are entitled to their opinion AC, I haven't read what you are suggesting on the other site so won't be commenting on that unless you can send me some proof of it and I can then address it with said poster......obviously if nothing is forthcoming then I will treat it as stirring the pot from yourself. My advice, find a mirror and read your post to yourself in said mirror 👠|
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