| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea 08:00 - Dec 31 with 2755 views | SwansIndependent |
 Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea 31st Dec 2022 08:00Swans boss Russell Martin responded in the only way he could to his growing critics at the swansea.com last night. His sides 4-0 win against Watford not only reinforced his belief he has the credentials to take the swans in to the play offs, it sent his various and growing dissenters to a quiet place at least for the evening.  1
Even when he wins, he can’t win.
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 08:38 - Dec 31 with 1702 views | Whiterockin |
His post match interview was very interesting for what he avoided saying about certain players, while hinting at the truth and the future. The window opens tomorrow the sooner we move unwanted players on the better. Fin Stevens has gone back already and there will be several more loan moves in and out this window. |  | | |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 08:41 - Dec 31 with 1703 views | Dr_Winston |
Russell Martin answers his critics by doing exactly what they've been pleading with him to. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:04 - Dec 31 with 1591 views | Badlands |
Last night answered little. In fact it reinforced my opinions.
As in earlier games against teams who want to play football, rather than defend and attack on a counter, we had done well (particularly when the opposition is not on top form).
Opponents who bring a game end up with higher possession stats as they seek the ball. This gives the impression that the tactics have changed … they haven’t.
Some fans suggest Martin has learned and we go more direct. Wrong, Martin hasn’t changed but the opposition's approach creates more space to play through their midfield and defence.
And, our goal attempts were successful. The same number of attempts were on target last night (7) as they were against Reading yet they resulted in 3 more goals.
I hope the results keep coming but I have little confidence in Martin. |  |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:09 - Dec 31 with 1577 views | max936 |
One Swallow does not a Summer make!
One Swallow is a nice sight though, hopefully start building up to a flock now. |  |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:30 - Dec 31 with 1529 views | KeithHaynes |
One game out of one won 👠|  |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:34 - Dec 31 with 1497 views | swan_si |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:30 - Dec 31 by KeithHaynes |
One game out of one won 👠|
Won-derful  |  | | |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:57 - Dec 31 with 1444 views | Catullus |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:30 - Dec 31 by KeithHaynes |
One game out of one won 👠|
You can't just start counting now! it doesn't work like that.
Martin made changes, ditched the wing backs, went to a back 4, 3 up front. it'll be ok if we stick with this and carry om playing well, maybe even winning.
What wont be ok is if we revert again to the failed system. lets wait and see. For now everything is rosy. Time will tell. | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:00 - Dec 31 with 1428 views | onehunglow |
Any win is welcome especially with a clean sheet.
I ll leave it there . | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:01 - Dec 31 with 1426 views | KeithHaynes |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:57 - Dec 31 by Catullus |
You can't just start counting now! it doesn't work like that.
Martin made changes, ditched the wing backs, went to a back 4, 3 up front. it'll be ok if we stick with this and carry om playing well, maybe even winning.
What wont be ok is if we revert again to the failed system. lets wait and see. For now everything is rosy. Time will tell. |
Tongue in cheek maybe ?
The guy can’t win anyway no matter what he does. | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:04 - Dec 31 with 1402 views | builthjack |
Great stuff Russ and team. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:07 - Dec 31 with 1387 views | Catullus |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:01 - Dec 31 by KeithHaynes |
Tongue in cheek maybe ?
The guy can’t win anyway no matter what he does. |
He can win if his team keep providing entertainment like last night. It was fun again. Thats been missing for far too long, it had become a long drudge.
Lets keep the fun then we all win. | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:08 - Dec 31 with 1382 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:01 - Dec 31 by KeithHaynes |
Tongue in cheek maybe ?
The guy can’t win anyway no matter what he does. |
RM is Marmite you ether like or dislike. If you dislike you look for reasons to criticise, if you like you look for reasons to back him. It's just the way it is, all about opinions. | | | |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:13 - Dec 31 with 1374 views | Catullus |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:08 - Dec 31 by Whiterockin |
RM is Marmite you ether like or dislike. If you dislike you look for reasons to criticise, if you like you look for reasons to back him. It's just the way it is, all about opinions. |
Not to me, I don't dislike him, I dislike that we have seen what our team is ccapable of yet we have been seeing too much slow, turgd stuff when we are capable of better.
Martin and the players gave us better again last night, lets keep it that way. | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 20:45 - Dec 31 with 1272 views | vetchonian |
he talks of his.process yet last night's victory came with a shift from his preferred set up of 3/5 at the back...one which he has persevered with during the last 8 winless run of games...
Funny too how one of the reports/articles supporting Martin talked of how we lack the players but now it seems we have the players.....
Yes I'm chuffed we won last night but let's not lose sight of the facts we won by not playing Martinball....funny how when his back is against the wall the fraud plays football which gets results....many have said we should have been playing with a flat back four and Piroe should have support up front funny when that happens how we get a result....this talking up up of this fraud has to end....he hasn't answered critics all he has done is confirm that they are right | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 21:00 - Dec 31 with 1246 views | theloneranger |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:09 - Dec 31 by max936 |
One Swallow does not a Summer make!
One Swallow is a nice sight though, hopefully start building up to a flock now. |
Many years ago - One Swallow, made my summer.  |  |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 21:01 - Dec 31 with 1224 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:01 - Dec 31 by KeithHaynes |
Tongue in cheek maybe ?
The guy can’t win anyway no matter what he does. |
If he gets us top 6 he will have gone a good job this season.
If he gets us top 8 he will have done adequately.
If he fails to get top 8 he will have done poorly.
How he is perceived is entirely on his shoulders. The guy has spent the majority of his reign with us (and elsewhere) languishing in the doldrums of the league, he hasn’t done anything worthy of winning the fans over.
Once he does then I’m sure he will get the praise related to those achievements.
At the moment people are trying to praise him despite the opposite of those achievements materialising, that’s what tends to be the sticking point between certain fans. |  |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 21:05 - Dec 31 with 1217 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 20:45 - Dec 31 by vetchonian |
he talks of his.process yet last night's victory came with a shift from his preferred set up of 3/5 at the back...one which he has persevered with during the last 8 winless run of games...
Funny too how one of the reports/articles supporting Martin talked of how we lack the players but now it seems we have the players.....
Yes I'm chuffed we won last night but let's not lose sight of the facts we won by not playing Martinball....funny how when his back is against the wall the fraud plays football which gets results....many have said we should have been playing with a flat back four and Piroe should have support up front funny when that happens how we get a result....this talking up up of this fraud has to end....he hasn't answered critics all he has done is confirm that they are right |
Yep.
There is no process, it’s a defence mechanism to avoid immediate responsibility. When we do win a game we make a pretty large shift away from his process.
I think that’s what is annoying him. He’s desperate to get his way to work but doesn’t understand how to, I think he changes when he feels most under pressure in order to get a result - then reverts back in another attempt to get it working once he feels the pressure is off.
The problem is, he doesn’t understand why the system doesn’t work so he can’t fix it. He ends up just doing the same thing over and over and hopes the result changes. He’s said it before “there is nothing wrong with the system as we dominated (possession)”. | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:06 - Jan 1 with 1156 views | onehunglow |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:01 - Dec 31 by KeithHaynes |
Tongue in cheek maybe ?
The guy can’t win anyway no matter what he does. |
It’s not .
He has not answered his critics either. Who are they by the way .Fans? God curse them for doubting HIM.
Watford were a shambolic insult their club and fans who gave up after the first game lThey were disgusting .
Burnley will be another planet so let’s see how he answers his critics for that game
There is clearly Martin fan here | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:33 - Jan 1 with 1112 views | KeithHaynes |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:06 - Jan 1 by onehunglow |
It’s not .
He has not answered his critics either. Who are they by the way .Fans? God curse them for doubting HIM.
Watford were a shambolic insult their club and fans who gave up after the first game lThey were disgusting .
Burnley will be another planet so let’s see how he answers his critics for that game
There is clearly Martin fan here |
I follow Swansea. | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:55 - Jan 1 with 1069 views | builthjack |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:33 - Jan 1 by KeithHaynes |
I follow Swansea. |
When winning or losing, Premier League or League 2. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:04 - Jan 1 with 1040 views | magicdaps10 |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 10:06 - Jan 1 by onehunglow |
It’s not .
He has not answered his critics either. Who are they by the way .Fans? God curse them for doubting HIM.
Watford were a shambolic insult their club and fans who gave up after the first game lThey were disgusting .
Burnley will be another planet so let’s see how he answers his critics for that game
There is clearly Martin fan here |
The club denotes what is expected from Martin and what they expect from him, if he continues to not hit those targets then he will get the boot......thus far that has not happened.
There will be a group of people with far more business knowledge and understanding of the game making calls at the club......they will be based on a sound mind and a fair judgement.
Nothing wrong with being happy or unhappy with a situation based on opinion but the powers who be, the ones who run the club will know what's needed and not, they will act if things are not going as they should taking in the whole situation with a reasonable mind.
Fans are fickle, some will not push, some will expect more than is reasonable........without the exact information, cherry picking from the Internet, we have no idea of the whole situation.
The issue with some fans, they start playing in the fact game, its a common misjudgement to get an opinion and fact mixed up.
For myself, I think we are doing OK and it seems that the people with a more experienced business and football brain thunk the same considering Martin is still at the helm.
If people want me to say things and get things off the Internet to back my opinions up then so be it, I can't go of gossip and things that are not going to be correct that are posted on the internet......i don't really take in that type of nonsense. |  |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:24 - Jan 1 with 1007 views | swan_si |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:04 - Jan 1 by magicdaps10 |
The club denotes what is expected from Martin and what they expect from him, if he continues to not hit those targets then he will get the boot......thus far that has not happened.
There will be a group of people with far more business knowledge and understanding of the game making calls at the club......they will be based on a sound mind and a fair judgement.
Nothing wrong with being happy or unhappy with a situation based on opinion but the powers who be, the ones who run the club will know what's needed and not, they will act if things are not going as they should taking in the whole situation with a reasonable mind.
Fans are fickle, some will not push, some will expect more than is reasonable........without the exact information, cherry picking from the Internet, we have no idea of the whole situation.
The issue with some fans, they start playing in the fact game, its a common misjudgement to get an opinion and fact mixed up.
For myself, I think we are doing OK and it seems that the people with a more experienced business and football brain thunk the same considering Martin is still at the helm.
If people want me to say things and get things off the Internet to back my opinions up then so be it, I can't go of gossip and things that are not going to be correct that are posted on the internet......i don't really take in that type of nonsense. |
" they will be based on sound mind and a fair judgement " that's brutal, blown OHL and a few others right out of the water, intentional or not made me smile  | | | |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:49 - Jan 1 with 996 views | STID2017 |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:04 - Jan 1 by magicdaps10 |
The club denotes what is expected from Martin and what they expect from him, if he continues to not hit those targets then he will get the boot......thus far that has not happened.
There will be a group of people with far more business knowledge and understanding of the game making calls at the club......they will be based on a sound mind and a fair judgement.
Nothing wrong with being happy or unhappy with a situation based on opinion but the powers who be, the ones who run the club will know what's needed and not, they will act if things are not going as they should taking in the whole situation with a reasonable mind.
Fans are fickle, some will not push, some will expect more than is reasonable........without the exact information, cherry picking from the Internet, we have no idea of the whole situation.
The issue with some fans, they start playing in the fact game, its a common misjudgement to get an opinion and fact mixed up.
For myself, I think we are doing OK and it seems that the people with a more experienced business and football brain thunk the same considering Martin is still at the helm.
If people want me to say things and get things off the Internet to back my opinions up then so be it, I can't go of gossip and things that are not going to be correct that are posted on the internet......i don't really take in that type of nonsense. |
Brilliant summing up of the situation and 100% spot on.
Blows Dr P and OHL negative rumour based nonsense out of the water |  |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:50 - Jan 1 with 995 views | vetchonian |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:04 - Jan 1 by magicdaps10 |
The club denotes what is expected from Martin and what they expect from him, if he continues to not hit those targets then he will get the boot......thus far that has not happened.
There will be a group of people with far more business knowledge and understanding of the game making calls at the club......they will be based on a sound mind and a fair judgement.
Nothing wrong with being happy or unhappy with a situation based on opinion but the powers who be, the ones who run the club will know what's needed and not, they will act if things are not going as they should taking in the whole situation with a reasonable mind.
Fans are fickle, some will not push, some will expect more than is reasonable........without the exact information, cherry picking from the Internet, we have no idea of the whole situation.
The issue with some fans, they start playing in the fact game, its a common misjudgement to get an opinion and fact mixed up.
For myself, I think we are doing OK and it seems that the people with a more experienced business and football brain thunk the same considering Martin is still at the helm.
If people want me to say things and get things off the Internet to back my opinions up then so be it, I can't go of gossip and things that are not going to be correct that are posted on the internet......i don't really take in that type of nonsense. |
Do you really believe the hierarchy at the club know what they are doing
Whilst in fairness they are doing well to keep things on an even keel financially do you believe they also actually understand fully the football side of things
Hopefully they are learning but let’s look at that it past records the appointment of Bradley, signing Morris and Arriola
you may feel we are doing ok but Friday showed how much better we could be doing had this manager picked a different formation and tactics such that many fans on here had been suggesting
It’s all about opinions but I’m not sure Jake Steve et al have fully grasped the workings of British league football and for me the jury is still out on Winter.
Why now has Martin made the change to four at the back and away from a lone striker his way has failed over the previous 8 games maybe someone did have a word in his shell like but no this can’t be so but why if there is a process has it been diverted from
Martin is a good salesman and as such has sold his vision to Jake I’m not so sure if he were at a “British “ owned club like Norwich he would still be employed after the 18 months he has had here | |
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| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:50 - Jan 1 with 995 views | Fireboy2 |
| Russell Martin answers his critics with an emphatic win for Swansea on 11:04 - Jan 1 by magicdaps10 |
The club denotes what is expected from Martin and what they expect from him, if he continues to not hit those targets then he will get the boot......thus far that has not happened.
There will be a group of people with far more business knowledge and understanding of the game making calls at the club......they will be based on a sound mind and a fair judgement.
Nothing wrong with being happy or unhappy with a situation based on opinion but the powers who be, the ones who run the club will know what's needed and not, they will act if things are not going as they should taking in the whole situation with a reasonable mind.
Fans are fickle, some will not push, some will expect more than is reasonable........without the exact information, cherry picking from the Internet, we have no idea of the whole situation.
The issue with some fans, they start playing in the fact game, its a common misjudgement to get an opinion and fact mixed up.
For myself, I think we are doing OK and it seems that the people with a more experienced business and football brain thunk the same considering Martin is still at the helm.
If people want me to say things and get things off the Internet to back my opinions up then so be it, I can't go of gossip and things that are not going to be correct that are posted on the internet......i don't really take in that type of nonsense. |
Great post Daps, spot on mate 👌 |  | | |
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