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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 08:28 - Aug 3 with 19393 viewsNotLoyal

Saturday August 7th 2021
Ewood Park
Kick Off 3pm


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David Webb will be the referee for Swansea City's Championship opener against Blackburn Rovers at Ewood Park. Webb will be assisted by Matthew Mcgrath and Geoffrey Liddle, while Ross Joyce is the fourth official.



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Last time
Blackburn Rovers 1 Swansea City 1
9th March 2021, behind closed doors

The time before that
Blackburn Rovers 2 Swansea City 2
29th February 2020

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Blackburn is such a small place that more than the amount of people that live there follow the club. That means a lot of Blackburn folk follow their local side, and clearly some of them twice. There is no other explanation. Holland’s pies is the towns biggest exporter, in a hundred years back, or less, they used to export cotton ( not Holland’s pies ) to the world, then one eyed Joe got annoyed and it all went south. Not literally, nothing goes south from Blackburn as we have seen with their away supports over the years at Swansea. It shouldn’t ever be said that Blackburn people are thick, other than all of them mostly are really intelligent. They came second in the UK’s most intelligent town in 2017. This was an incredible achievement for them as they were the only town to enter. Thick or what ?

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Blackburn Rovers: Thomas Kaminski, Ryan Nyambe, Harry Pickering, Daniel Ayala, Joe Rothwell, Sam Gallagher, Tyrhys Dolan, John Buckley, Ben Brereton Diaz, Darragh Lenihan (captain), Lewis Travis.

Substitutes: Jacob Davenport, Danny Butterworth, Hayden Carter, Connor McBride, Jake Garrett, Tyler Magloire, Jordan Eastham.

Swansea City: Steven Benda; Ben Cabango, Ryan Bennett, Joel Latibeaudiere; Kyle Naughton, Korey Smith, Jamie Paterson, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Jamal Lowe, Liam Cullen.

Substitutes: Nico Defreitas-Hansen, Lincoln Mcfayden, Brandon Cooper, Yan Dhanda, Ollie Cooper, Morgan Whittaker, Kyle Joseph.


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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:28 - Aug 7 with 1910 viewsBadlands

TBF Bidwell has threaded some lovely through balls but Lowe and others aren't quick enough to get to them.
Noticeable that players are looking to go forward first rather than back.
More excitement in the 40 minutes I've seen than anything from the last two seasons.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:31 - Aug 7 with 1868 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:28 - Aug 7 by Badlands

TBF Bidwell has threaded some lovely through balls but Lowe and others aren't quick enough to get to them.
Noticeable that players are looking to go forward first rather than back.
More excitement in the 40 minutes I've seen than anything from the last two seasons.


Lowe has been on his heels too much I’ll agree
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:31 - Aug 7 with 1862 viewsjackrmee

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:25 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus

100%.

Then added to that base we had the players with pace and composure such as Dyer and Sinclair to supplement it. The ability to launch several types of attacks too, including long balls. Ashley Williams used to love to spread a long ball out to the wing.

We haven’t replaced Dyer or Sinclair, all our wingers (Hernandez aside) have been speed merchants that don’t know how to use the ball.

It’s all well and good having a philosophy or a style of play, quite another to have the players to implement it. Otherwise everyone would do it.

We have to make a decision to recruit players who can play this way or expect that it will go wrong far more than it will go right, even when it’s “bedded in”.


Any professional team can implement it. Teams play this way in the Carmarthenshire league ffs. It just takes practice.
You've got to have a pretty poor footballing brain if you can't learn how to play a certain way. Especially if the manager ONLY plays one way, which I think Martin will.
He has no plan B, so should be easy for any professional to learn.
It was more difficult for them to implement under Potter, as he had plans B, C, D and E.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:31 - Aug 7 with 1858 viewslondonlisa2001

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:27 - Aug 7 by Brynmill_Jack

Cullen so unlucky there. Great effort


He’s looked better this game.
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:34 - Aug 7 with 1822 viewslondonlisa2001

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:25 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus

100%.

Then added to that base we had the players with pace and composure such as Dyer and Sinclair to supplement it. The ability to launch several types of attacks too, including long balls. Ashley Williams used to love to spread a long ball out to the wing.

We haven’t replaced Dyer or Sinclair, all our wingers (Hernandez aside) have been speed merchants that don’t know how to use the ball.

It’s all well and good having a philosophy or a style of play, quite another to have the players to implement it. Otherwise everyone would do it.

We have to make a decision to recruit players who can play this way or expect that it will go wrong far more than it will go right, even when it’s “bedded in”.


I also don’t understand playing three at the back in a ‘passing’ game. By definition, you are giving up a midfielder for a back, and usually that’s a reduction in on the ball ability. Plus your wide players are further back.

I’m a fan of 451 to be honest. With pace on the flanks. And a creative number 10.
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:37 - Aug 7 with 1758 viewsDr_Parnassus

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:31 - Aug 7 by jackrmee

Any professional team can implement it. Teams play this way in the Carmarthenshire league ffs. It just takes practice.
You've got to have a pretty poor footballing brain if you can't learn how to play a certain way. Especially if the manager ONLY plays one way, which I think Martin will.
He has no plan B, so should be easy for any professional to learn.
It was more difficult for them to implement under Potter, as he had plans B, C, D and E.


Depends your definition of implementing I guess. I would suggest any implementation would only be complete once a sufficient level of success is achieved via it.

I don’t believe we can implement this style with this group of players and be successful. I would deem success as being a play off side.

In previous incarnations of our side we had excellent technical players with vision, passing range and close control. It’s not really about learning a style, it’s about having the ability to do that style more effectively than the style your opponents are using. That takes superior talent.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:38 - Aug 7 with 1760 viewsjackrmee

How can someone coming from Man City be so sh!t at passing?

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:41 - Aug 7 with 1705 viewsThornburyswan

Time to give Joseph 10 minutes for Lowe.
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:42 - Aug 7 with 1701 viewsjackrmee

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:37 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Depends your definition of implementing I guess. I would suggest any implementation would only be complete once a sufficient level of success is achieved via it.

I don’t believe we can implement this style with this group of players and be successful. I would deem success as being a play off side.

In previous incarnations of our side we had excellent technical players with vision, passing range and close control. It’s not really about learning a style, it’s about having the ability to do that style more effectively than the style your opponents are using. That takes superior talent.


These are professional footballers mun.
There may be players better suited to playing it, but our players are not terrible. They should be able to play however they are told. They are all able to pass and all able to move and learn new tactics. If these are taught well, any of them can master it. IMHO.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:43 - Aug 7 with 1689 viewsGeoffThom

Bidwell and latibeaudiere been awful
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:43 - Aug 7 with 1688 viewscockneyswan

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:38 - Aug 7 by jackrmee

How can someone coming from Man City be so sh!t at passing?


Probably why he’s here not ma city 😂
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:46 - Aug 7 with 1646 viewsBadlands

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:43 - Aug 7 by GeoffThom

Bidwell and latibeaudiere been awful


I think Bidwell has been very good.😳

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:50 - Aug 7 with 1594 viewsBadlands

Cullen should have been of much earlier … and maybe Lowe.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:51 - Aug 7 with 1579 viewsThornburyswan

6 mins added!
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:52 - Aug 7 with 1563 viewsDr_Parnassus

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:42 - Aug 7 by jackrmee

These are professional footballers mun.
There may be players better suited to playing it, but our players are not terrible. They should be able to play however they are told. They are all able to pass and all able to move and learn new tactics. If these are taught well, any of them can master it. IMHO.


Doesn’t matter if they are professional footballers, doesn’t mean they are excellent in every department.

The likes of Bennett isn’t a professional footballer because of his composure, his passing range and ability and vision. He’s a professional footballer because he’s decent in the air, strong in the tackle and dependable.

Telling him to be composed and telling him to ping passes around the back isn’t going to magically mean that he can. Not only can, but can to a sufficient level over 90 mins that we do it better than the opposition does theirs, probably more in a style that suits their players.

It’s not about tactics, it’s about ability.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:56 - Aug 7 with 1492 viewsDr_Parnassus

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:34 - Aug 7 by londonlisa2001

I also don’t understand playing three at the back in a ‘passing’ game. By definition, you are giving up a midfielder for a back, and usually that’s a reduction in on the ball ability. Plus your wide players are further back.

I’m a fan of 451 to be honest. With pace on the flanks. And a creative number 10.


We may disagree on most other things , but with football we are certainly singing off the same hymn sheet.

Again I agree.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:57 - Aug 7 with 1483 viewsGeoffThom

Woodman or benda apart from the brain freeze has made some good saves, benda for me
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:58 - Aug 7 with 1468 viewsBadlands

Typically thug football from Warnock.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:00 - Aug 7 with 1418 viewsAnotherJohn

Hard to feel positive after being second best to a team that finished 15th last year, has lost a big chunk of its first team squad, and couldn't afford any new signings.
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:00 - Aug 7 with 1399 viewsBadlands

Surprisingly good, given all the changes in personal and approach.
Gutted we didn't get a draw at least but very, very encouraging.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:01 - Aug 7 with 1383 viewslondonlisa2001

I will be interested to see what Martin says, and who he brings in this week.

At least two needed in midfield (assuming Grimes goes), a wide player and a centre back. Plus replacements for whoever else goes.

And that’s also assuming Piroe isn’t an absolute prat.
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:03 - Aug 7 with 1366 viewsjasper_T

Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:57 - Aug 7 by GeoffThom

Woodman or benda apart from the brain freeze has made some good saves, benda for me
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Two bad mistakes in quick succession cost us a goal, but he also bailed out some players who made more howlers than him today with decent saves.

Paterson was better second half but not sure what their keeper was trying to do for his goal. Jumped right out of the way of it.

Subs needed earlier, Cullen wasn't in the game at all. Lowe looked out of puff and patience before the hour. Latibeaudiere just not good enough.
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:03 - Aug 7 with 1364 viewsjackrabbit

Players required. With pace, preferred. Apply R Martin, Liberty Stadium, Swansea
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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:03 - Aug 7 with 1358 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

It was interesting to see us come out in the second half and completely abandon the approach we employed in the first half.

I think that is very telling of Martin's thoughts on what he saw in that first half.

We have some truly dreadful players in this squad. The concerning thing is that many of them are deemed to be part of our best eleven.

I thought Benda was excellent, aside from the penalty incident. His positioning when attackers face him one on one is refreshing. So often we saw Woodman quite literally standing on his goal line (I recall occasions he'd back step so far he would be behind the goal line when the attacker shot). Benda was always positioned perfectly to close the angle as best he could. He was the highlight of the game for me.

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Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:03 - Aug 7 with 1349 viewsPBJ

I have to say I'm impressed with Benda

Always go with the Facts.

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