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Saturday August 7th 2021
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Blackburn Rovers: Thomas Kaminski, Ryan Nyambe, Harry Pickering, Daniel Ayala, Joe Rothwell, Sam Gallagher, Tyrhys Dolan, John Buckley, Ben Brereton Diaz, Darragh Lenihan (captain), Lewis Travis.
Substitutes: Jacob Davenport, Danny Butterworth, Hayden Carter, Connor McBride, Jake Garrett, Tyler Magloire, Jordan Eastham.
Swansea City: Steven Benda; Ben Cabango, Ryan Bennett, Joel Latibeaudiere; Kyle Naughton, Korey Smith, Jamie Paterson, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Jamal Lowe, Liam Cullen.
Substitutes: Nico Defreitas-Hansen, Lincoln Mcfayden, Brandon Cooper, Yan Dhanda, Ollie Cooper, Morgan Whittaker, Kyle Joseph.
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:09 - Aug 7 with 1593 views | dantheswansman |
Benda was brilliant, he is more than up to the task beside his gift of a penalty to them, Whittaker should have had the entire second half, Korey Smith seemed to be out of sorts for some bizarre reason, there was far too many backward passes for my liking but this has been going on for longer than i can remember, i do remember that Naughton has 10 other players to try and pass to but chose to pass to the keeper which pissed me off no end, it might just be my eternal optimism but i think we looked more creative in the second half, onward and upward |  | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:10 - Aug 7 with 1591 views | angryjack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:05 - Aug 7 by Dr_Winston |
By no stretch of the imagination was Garry Monk a "ball playing centre half" but given competent coaching he did just fine.
These players have just spent two years doing the opposite of what Russell Martin wants them to. It will take time to bed the system in. If come December they're still crapping themselves when they've got the ball to feet then fine, it's time to worry. Otherwise chill. |
If you can't be comfy on the ball at 29or 21 you never will be no matter what Russell tries teach them it's horses for courses cabango is a solid centre half but never will be a ball carrying centre half as for naughton he will never be a wing back who gets forward delivering crosses or a full back who can come deep get ball and start moves.as he ain't just got it we need change our personnel big time |  | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:13 - Aug 7 with 1570 views | dobjack2 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:05 - Aug 7 by Dr_Winston |
By no stretch of the imagination was Garry Monk a "ball playing centre half" but given competent coaching he did just fine.
These players have just spent two years doing the opposite of what Russell Martin wants them to. It will take time to bed the system in. If come December they're still crapping themselves when they've got the ball to feet then fine, it's time to worry. Otherwise chill. |
I think that we are going to pick up a lot of cards at centre back and central midfield until this system beds in. | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:14 - Aug 7 with 1559 views | AndyCole |
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Some harsh criticisms of our players who are desperate to impress our new Ruthless Russell.
They've been asked to make gargantuan steps up in pace, bravery, go-forward. All in a heartbeat.
Encouraging to see Martin cut his cloth in the second half, with Grimes taking the tiller to wrest control - however from far too deep to hurt and propel us forward.
Exciting times.
Let's hope (some of our internet) fickle fans give him and our players the breathing space they need to grow and flourish.
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:16 - Aug 7 with 1554 views | builthjack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 15:42 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus |
This passing is atrocious.
You have to have the right technical players that can play this way, under pressure, to a man. That’s why it’s so difficult for the majority of teams to do successfully. I’m not convinced we have the personnel.
The one positive for me so far is Benda. Nice to have a brave and commanding keeper. |
It will take quite a few windows for Martin to get his team right. Only 4 or 5 of the present squad will be good enough for his pass and control game. |  |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:24 - Aug 7 with 1533 views | jack247 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:00 - Aug 7 by angryjack |
I agree but not good enough either is cabango in this system we need balm playing centre halves who are comfortable on ball naughtiness as a wing back is a joke useless getting forward can't defebt and distribution is a joke...I just being honest Lowe runs with ball with head down no idea what's around him runs until he loses it don't get his head up to play pass or a one two just runs and runs out space.. not being critical but honest. Half our team not good enough for this league |
He won’t be there for long. As soon as we get Laird or someone else in, he’ll be in the three. I agree, wingback doesn’t suit him at all. Paterson went straight in and we had a very inexperienced bench.
Your last sentence is a salient point. I’m yet to be convinced by Smith or Latabaudiere. Dhanda has the talent, but hasn’t made the most of it yet.
We looked exactly like we are, a team who has lost a couple of big players, trying to get used to a new manager and a new playing style without a pre season (tactics wise not fitness wise).
We were makeshift today. I’m confident that with a couple of additions and a few games for the players to get used to Martin and vice versa, we won’t look anything like as sloppy or disconnected. | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:33 - Aug 7 with 1497 views | AndyCole |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:10 - Aug 7 by angryjack |
If you can't be comfy on the ball at 29or 21 you never will be no matter what Russell tries teach them it's horses for courses cabango is a solid centre half but never will be a ball carrying centre half as for naughton he will never be a wing back who gets forward delivering crosses or a full back who can come deep get ball and start moves.as he ain't just got it we need change our personnel big time |
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You're right re Cabango. A stopper not a player (one though ball excepted). No doubt someone (from the lands not good) will throw some stats saying how amazing he is, but in reality he is our (2nd) weakest link in playing from the back.
We need an overhaul - starting from the back. Benda is a great start. More is now in the pipeline we hear .....
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:39 - Aug 7 with 1490 views | jack247 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:33 - Aug 7 by AndyCole |
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You're right re Cabango. A stopper not a player (one though ball excepted). No doubt someone (from the lands not good) will throw some stats saying how amazing he is, but in reality he is our (2nd) weakest link in playing from the back.
We need an overhaul - starting from the back. Benda is a great start. More is now in the pipeline we hear .....
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He’s fine in this system, so is Bennett. Playing them both together is the issue. Ideally you want one stopper and two more versatile defenders who aren’t as strong, or tall, or physically dominant, but can step into midfield, receive the ball in tight situations and cover the wingbacks when they’ve gone forward.
I agree, we need at least one ‘utility defender’, or for Latibeaudiere to step up a bit. | | | |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:01 - Aug 7 with 1436 views | Badlands |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:33 - Aug 7 by AndyCole |
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You're right re Cabango. A stopper not a player (one though ball excepted). No doubt someone (from the lands not good) will throw some stats saying how amazing he is, but in reality he is our (2nd) weakest link in playing from the back.
We need an overhaul - starting from the back. Benda is a great start. More is now in the pipeline we hear .....
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Bollocks |  |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:29 - Aug 7 with 1401 views | max936 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:16 - Aug 7 by builthjack |
It will take quite a few windows for Martin to get his team right. Only 4 or 5 of the present squad will be good enough for his pass and control game. |
Is Martin good enough though??? before you all get the Gatling guns out I'm just posing the question. |  | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:33 - Aug 7 with 1386 views | Dr_Winston |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:29 - Aug 7 by max936 |
Is Martin good enough though??? before you all get the Gatling guns out I'm just posing the question. |
Why would you pose the question about a week after the guy got the job? |  |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:42 - Aug 7 with 1367 views | jack247 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:29 - Aug 7 by max936 |
Is Martin good enough though??? before you all get the Gatling guns out I'm just posing the question. |
Bit early to tell yet Max. Give him the rest of the week at least | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:51 - Aug 7 with 1347 views | max936 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:42 - Aug 7 by jack247 |
Bit early to tell yet Max. Give him the rest of the week at least |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 23:07 - Aug 7 with 1229 views | angryjack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 21:01 - Aug 7 by Badlands |
Bollocks |
It's not bollocks at all cabango is an old fashioned centre half, he too stiff clumsy on ball to be a footballing centre half who can get ball off keeper in tight situations and play | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 00:17 - Aug 8 with 1169 views | max936 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:33 - Aug 7 by AndyCole |
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You're right re Cabango. A stopper not a player (one though ball excepted). No doubt someone (from the lands not good) will throw some stats saying how amazing he is, but in reality he is our (2nd) weakest link in playing from the back.
We need an overhaul - starting from the back. Benda is a great start. More is now in the pipeline we hear .....
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Overall you say? you need to make your mind up, you reckoned Cooper had amassed a team of superstars ready to rule the world of football, [ok I exaggerated slightly] yet you want an overall of the squad  | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 02:11 - Aug 8 with 1121 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 23:07 - Aug 7 by angryjack |
It's not bollocks at all cabango is an old fashioned centre half, he too stiff clumsy on ball to be a footballing centre half who can get ball off keeper in tight situations and play |
He was the one centre back who carried the ball forward. Almost got an assist with a glorious through ball to Cullen. FFS give it a rest |  |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 07:43 - Aug 8 with 1040 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 20:09 - Aug 7 by dantheswansman |
Benda was brilliant, he is more than up to the task beside his gift of a penalty to them, Whittaker should have had the entire second half, Korey Smith seemed to be out of sorts for some bizarre reason, there was far too many backward passes for my liking but this has been going on for longer than i can remember, i do remember that Naughton has 10 other players to try and pass to but chose to pass to the keeper which pissed me off no end, it might just be my eternal optimism but i think we looked more creative in the second half, onward and upward |
Benda was awful first goal through his legs and what on earth was he up too for the second goal. Terrible ball control and then a needless penalty. If woodman had done that he would have been crucified.
3 out of 10 will need to show a vast improvement. | |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 08:36 - Aug 8 with 988 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 07:43 - Aug 8 by felixstowe_jack |
Benda was awful first goal through his legs and what on earth was he up too for the second goal. Terrible ball control and then a needless penalty. If woodman had done that he would have been crucified.
3 out of 10 will need to show a vast improvement. |
“The first goal went through his legs” - only because he’d just dived to make a save you idiot. The second of course he made a mistake but I’ve more confidence in him than Freddie. | |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 09:17 - Aug 8 with 946 views | AndyCole |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 00:17 - Aug 8 by max936 |
Overall you say? you need to make your mind up, you reckoned Cooper had amassed a team of superstars ready to rule the world of football, [ok I exaggerated slightly] yet you want an overall of the squad |
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For the avoidance of doubt, the overall overhaul is if Martin sticks to his guns to play Martinball. Or whether he continues to cut his cloth in the way he did 2nd half - to suit the players we have in order to get a result.
Much like Cooper did, cutting his cloth to get the very best out the resources available.
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 10:18 - Aug 8 with 875 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 09:17 - Aug 8 by AndyCole |
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For the avoidance of doubt, the overall overhaul is if Martin sticks to his guns to play Martinball. Or whether he continues to cut his cloth in the way he did 2nd half - to suit the players we have in order to get a result.
Much like Cooper did, cutting his cloth to get the very best out the resources available.
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Yes bit Cooper chose a lot of his resources. Martin has only been in the job barely a week and is missing two good senior professionals. I think we’ll be on the right track come the end of the window | |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 10:56 - Aug 8 with 818 views | jack247 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 07:43 - Aug 8 by felixstowe_jack |
Benda was awful first goal through his legs and what on earth was he up too for the second goal. Terrible ball control and then a needless penalty. If woodman had done that he would have been crucified.
3 out of 10 will need to show a vast improvement. |
Benda will seriously benefit from ‘not being Woodman’ on here. I don’t know if the players read the site, but if they do that’s a good thing.
The penalty incident was worse than anything Woodman did in two years. You’re right, if Woodman did that in an otherwise good game, he’d be slaughtered.
It was an isolated incident though and other than that and a spill from a weak shot in the first half, I thought he had a very good game. We have to account for him having a lot less protection than Woodman enjoyed. | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 11:06 - Aug 8 with 797 views | max936 |
Just seen brief highlights, defence was like the parting of the red sea, guess we'll tighten things up, new players in defence can't come soon enough.
Benda kept us in the game, by looks of it. | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 11:15 - Aug 8 with 793 views | jack247 |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 11:06 - Aug 8 by max936 |
Just seen brief highlights, defence was like the parting of the red sea, guess we'll tighten things up, new players in defence can't come soon enough.
Benda kept us in the game, by looks of it. |
He did to be fair. Take the penalty out of it and he was excellent. | | | |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 11:31 - Aug 8 with 771 views | jackrmee |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 16:52 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus |
Doesn’t matter if they are professional footballers, doesn’t mean they are excellent in every department.
The likes of Bennett isn’t a professional footballer because of his composure, his passing range and ability and vision. He’s a professional footballer because he’s decent in the air, strong in the tackle and dependable.
Telling him to be composed and telling him to ping passes around the back isn’t going to magically mean that he can. Not only can, but can to a sufficient level over 90 mins that we do it better than the opposition does theirs, probably more in a style that suits their players.
It’s not about tactics, it’s about ability. |
I do agree that there are some prfessional players who are unable to do it, but they should be few and far between.
Some may take longer to get the hang of it than others, and some may not be able to ever do it, but those are the ones that need to be replaced. I truly don't believe that be many of them.
Lati was very poor yesterday and a player who is yet to break into senior football is a much bigger risk in being able to adapt than a seasoned pro like Bennett IMO.
Bennet has played in the prem for more than one team. He's been promoted from this division twice and played hundreds of times. He wouldn't have got to that level if he couldn't pass, Shirley?
Just a case of getting into practice and building confidence in it I suggest. |  |
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| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 11:37 - Aug 8 with 766 views | jackrmee |
| Matchday Thread : Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City 21/22 on 17:31 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus |
Giving up 21 shots despite having 71% of the ball is bananas really, especially when most of them were through our own shortcomings as opposed to them carving them out with good play.
We have players that are simply not ball players. They are limited. As such, when put under duress in a pressing situation, they are just as likely to give it to the opposition as they are to give it to us. And considering much of our play is in our own half, when that does occur they are often already in a dangerous area.
Blackburn are no great shakes as you say and fully expect them to be a bottom half side, and at times it looked as if they were a league above us, that first 10 mins was horrific for example.
It will get better, but don’t think the ceiling of achievement is there or high enough to justify persisting unless we bring in players that can excel in this style, and not sure how much scope we have to do that.
No issue with the manager. No issue with the players. We just aren’t good enough. [Post edited 7 Aug 2021 17:52]
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Well we are going to persist, justifiable or not...
We aren't going to bring in a raft of players, so our boys better get practicing.
It will be a work in progress for some time, but the more we persist, the better we will become. | |
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