| RMT Strikes 09:40 - Nov 23 with 35519 views | 1983 |
Check before you travel folks is going to be a carve up for Christmas and NY [Post edited 23 Nov 2022 9:40]
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| RMT Strikes on 21:17 - Dec 22 with 2172 views | raynor94 |
| RMT Strikes on 20:00 - Dec 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The workers united will never be defeated.
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| RMT Strikes on 21:20 - Dec 22 with 2165 views | raynor94 |
| RMT Strikes on 15:24 - Dec 22 by CountyJim |
Does the RMT have a fundraising page for the strikers mate I'd donate and I'm sure right minded people would |
What, to people who are earning in excess of 50k? | |
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| RMT Strikes on 21:34 - Dec 22 with 2152 views | Dr_Winston |
Like with all strikes, the RMT need to be very, very careful that they don't alienate people who aren't members of the RMT.
That's something Scargill never learned. |  |
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| RMT Strikes on 21:37 - Dec 22 with 2139 views | Whiterockin |
| RMT Strikes on 21:34 - Dec 22 by Dr_Winston |
Like with all strikes, the RMT need to be very, very careful that they don't alienate people who aren't members of the RMT.
That's something Scargill never learned. |
They already have mate their customers in particular. Rail staff coming into contact with the public are getting quite a bit of stick. |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 21:49 - Dec 22 with 2120 views | Dr_Winston |
| RMT Strikes on 21:37 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
They already have mate their customers in particular. Rail staff coming into contact with the public are getting quite a bit of stick. |
This is the problem.
The main focus on strikes at the moment are the RMT and NHS staff. Both of whom at a general level already earn considerably more than a lot of other "working class" people.
As much as they try to frame it as a battle against the bosses, a lot of people will see it as already decently rewarded people demanding more. | |
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| RMT Strikes on 22:39 - Dec 22 with 2092 views | Fireboy2 |
The average wage of railway worker on strike with RMT is 36k.
Not all RMT union members are train drivers.
The strike is not just about wages, it is about terms, conditions and cutbacks but that is never mentioned in mainstream media. [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 22:41]
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| RMT Strikes on 22:41 - Dec 22 with 2091 views | majorraglan |
| RMT Strikes on 20:08 - Dec 22 by Boundy |
There are many right minded people in this country not earning anywhere near the annual wages that rail workers receive , hows about contributing to those who have struggle on the minimum wage and not those already on up to 74k basic
Average Train Driver Salaries Per Year
2020 2022
GWR - train driver salary - Cashfloat Great Western Railway £56,773 £60,620
SER - train driver salary - Cashfloat Southeastern Railway £53,620 £57,030
London Underground - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Underground £55,711 £59,732
Arriva group - train driver salary - Cashfloat Arriva Group £60,945 £66,677
london midland - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Midland £54,040 £55,854
virgin trains - train driver salary - Cashfloat Virgin Trains £66,231 £74,151 |
The wages you’ve quoted aren’t those for the vast majority of railway workers who are members of the RMT, their pay is much much lower.
Dependant on who you want to listen to Medan salary s anything between £44k ( ONS figure including drivers who are nearly all members of ASLEF a different union) and £31k (RMT figures including cleaners and excluding drivers). There ONS produce another figure of around £36k for railway workers excluding drivers, but it also excludes the cleaners who earn the least.
I think train divers are handsomely rewarded, but I have no idea how hard their job is. I’ve never driven a train, but the salary is on a par with that of a pilot. Do both similar job and move similar numbers of people? |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 22:48 - Dec 22 with 2084 views | raynor94 |
| RMT Strikes on 22:39 - Dec 22 by Fireboy2 |
The average wage of railway worker on strike with RMT is 36k.
Not all RMT union members are train drivers.
The strike is not just about wages, it is about terms, conditions and cutbacks but that is never mentioned in mainstream media. [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 22:41]
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I agree with almost everything you post on here.
But do you honestly belive 36k a year is a poor wage.
I wish I could have achieved that in my working life, and I have been retired only 5 years | |
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| RMT Strikes on 23:25 - Dec 22 with 2076 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 22:48 - Dec 22 by raynor94 |
I agree with almost everything you post on here.
But do you honestly belive 36k a year is a poor wage.
I wish I could have achieved that in my working life, and I have been retired only 5 years |
Average wage rayns.
Train driving is a dangerous job, they get paid accordingly for it.
As I've said before the RMT members are on strike not only for better pay but for better conditions and more importantly no cuts, it's the same reason for most people who are on strike, no more cuts, especially in the public sector because cuts to public sector means the public do not get they pay for and deserve. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 01:22 - Dec 23 with 2057 views | Kilkennyjack |
| RMT Strikes on 20:08 - Dec 22 by Boundy |
There are many right minded people in this country not earning anywhere near the annual wages that rail workers receive , hows about contributing to those who have struggle on the minimum wage and not those already on up to 74k basic
Average Train Driver Salaries Per Year
2020 2022
GWR - train driver salary - Cashfloat Great Western Railway £56,773 £60,620
SER - train driver salary - Cashfloat Southeastern Railway £53,620 £57,030
London Underground - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Underground £55,711 £59,732
Arriva group - train driver salary - Cashfloat Arriva Group £60,945 £66,677
london midland - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Midland £54,040 £55,854
virgin trains - train driver salary - Cashfloat Virgin Trains £66,231 £74,151 |
You are turning the working man against the working man.
You are doing the Tories job for them.
The Tory government has wasted billions on unusable PPE.
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| RMT Strikes on 06:25 - Dec 23 with 2039 views | Whiterockin |
| RMT Strikes on 22:41 - Dec 22 by majorraglan |
The wages you’ve quoted aren’t those for the vast majority of railway workers who are members of the RMT, their pay is much much lower.
Dependant on who you want to listen to Medan salary s anything between £44k ( ONS figure including drivers who are nearly all members of ASLEF a different union) and £31k (RMT figures including cleaners and excluding drivers). There ONS produce another figure of around £36k for railway workers excluding drivers, but it also excludes the cleaners who earn the least.
I think train divers are handsomely rewarded, but I have no idea how hard their job is. I’ve never driven a train, but the salary is on a par with that of a pilot. Do both similar job and move similar numbers of people? |
If you would like to compare a train driver with a airline pilot this may help. Personally I think there is a big difference.
https://nationalcareers.servic
https://uk.indeed.com/career-a | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 06:31 - Dec 23 with 2037 views | 1983 |
I wish people would stop banging on about train drivers it's not about train drivers and yes train drivers are massively over paid but that is down to privatisation and companies pinching drivers off each other because it takes so long and costs so much to train them.
This is about the rest of us who are at the bottom of the pile.My basic wage is 21k not 30,40,50,60k and there are more on a lot less,that pays for me to live on anything else car braking down,holidays,football....etc that comes out of my overtime money which is what the railway has always done but they want to rape us of that. If they do win nobody will do any overtime for a flat rate and you will have more delays and cancellations than ever.
I promise you it will get a lot worse before it gets better | |
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| RMT Strikes on 07:34 - Dec 23 with 2027 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 06:31 - Dec 23 by 1983 |
I wish people would stop banging on about train drivers it's not about train drivers and yes train drivers are massively over paid but that is down to privatisation and companies pinching drivers off each other because it takes so long and costs so much to train them.
This is about the rest of us who are at the bottom of the pile.My basic wage is 21k not 30,40,50,60k and there are more on a lot less,that pays for me to live on anything else car braking down,holidays,football....etc that comes out of my overtime money which is what the railway has always done but they want to rape us of that. If they do win nobody will do any overtime for a flat rate and you will have more delays and cancellations than ever.
I promise you it will get a lot worse before it gets better |
Great post mate, I do hope you get what you deserve because you definitely deserve it. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 08:14 - Dec 23 with 1997 views | STID2017 |
| RMT Strikes on 06:31 - Dec 23 by 1983 |
I wish people would stop banging on about train drivers it's not about train drivers and yes train drivers are massively over paid but that is down to privatisation and companies pinching drivers off each other because it takes so long and costs so much to train them.
This is about the rest of us who are at the bottom of the pile.My basic wage is 21k not 30,40,50,60k and there are more on a lot less,that pays for me to live on anything else car braking down,holidays,football....etc that comes out of my overtime money which is what the railway has always done but they want to rape us of that. If they do win nobody will do any overtime for a flat rate and you will have more delays and cancellations than ever.
I promise you it will get a lot worse before it gets better |
Great post mate and all the best with your efforts |  |
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| RMT Strikes on 09:24 - Dec 23 with 1955 views | Boundy |
| RMT Strikes on 22:41 - Dec 22 by majorraglan |
The wages you’ve quoted aren’t those for the vast majority of railway workers who are members of the RMT, their pay is much much lower.
Dependant on who you want to listen to Medan salary s anything between £44k ( ONS figure including drivers who are nearly all members of ASLEF a different union) and £31k (RMT figures including cleaners and excluding drivers). There ONS produce another figure of around £36k for railway workers excluding drivers, but it also excludes the cleaners who earn the least.
I think train divers are handsomely rewarded, but I have no idea how hard their job is. I’ve never driven a train, but the salary is on a par with that of a pilot. Do both similar job and move similar numbers of people? |
I know its not but why focus on those who by in large have wages above the minimum wage , everyone was get on average are much lower wages no comparison I've not quoted form the media but verifiable sources . The RMT have stated that this distribution is about public safety and not pay not being the main driver which is admirably but everyone seems to have forgotten that and focusing purely on the money . | |
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| RMT Strikes on 09:37 - Dec 23 with 1941 views | Boundy |
| RMT Strikes on 23:25 - Dec 22 by Fireboy2 |
Average wage rayns.
Train driving is a dangerous job, they get paid accordingly for it.
As I've said before the RMT members are on strike not only for better pay but for better conditions and more importantly no cuts, it's the same reason for most people who are on strike, no more cuts, especially in the public sector because cuts to public sector means the public do not get they pay for and deserve. |
Dangerous , really ? a responsible job yes . All jobs have their risks attached but a good employer should eliminate those a with myriad of control measure including technology which the rail network has many. I can think of may other careers which I'd consider dangerous , a train driver wouldn't be one of them , imo | |
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| RMT Strikes on 09:44 - Dec 23 with 1931 views | krunchykarrot |
| RMT Strikes on 06:31 - Dec 23 by 1983 |
I wish people would stop banging on about train drivers it's not about train drivers and yes train drivers are massively over paid but that is down to privatisation and companies pinching drivers off each other because it takes so long and costs so much to train them.
This is about the rest of us who are at the bottom of the pile.My basic wage is 21k not 30,40,50,60k and there are more on a lot less,that pays for me to live on anything else car braking down,holidays,football....etc that comes out of my overtime money which is what the railway has always done but they want to rape us of that. If they do win nobody will do any overtime for a flat rate and you will have more delays and cancellations than ever.
I promise you it will get a lot worse before it gets better |
Thats why i thought the point made in earlier my earlier post was relevant. Give all low paid workers a 20% pay rise which in your case is 4k and everyone over say 35k just gets the 4k or whatever the lowest paid percentage equates too. |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 10:43 - Dec 23 with 1895 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 09:37 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
Dangerous , really ? a responsible job yes . All jobs have their risks attached but a good employer should eliminate those a with myriad of control measure including technology which the rail network has many. I can think of may other careers which I'd consider dangerous , a train driver wouldn't be one of them , imo |
It’s not as dangerous potentially as a firefighter for sure who get less than train drivers ,which to me is crazy. Eddie should be earning what train drivers do and they what he gets.
My brother in law was a signalman and the open abuse of shift allowance and overtime was remarkable . He has free train journeys for life as does his wife . Not bad really .
I’m afraid this is another opportunity to bash Tories . It is food and drink to powerful union officials
Border Force striking over unsociable hours when Police officers work anti social killing shifts with no allowances . | |
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| RMT Strikes on 12:39 - Dec 23 with 1862 views | STID2017 |
| RMT Strikes on 10:43 - Dec 23 by onehunglow |
It’s not as dangerous potentially as a firefighter for sure who get less than train drivers ,which to me is crazy. Eddie should be earning what train drivers do and they what he gets.
My brother in law was a signalman and the open abuse of shift allowance and overtime was remarkable . He has free train journeys for life as does his wife . Not bad really .
I’m afraid this is another opportunity to bash Tories . It is food and drink to powerful union officials
Border Force striking over unsociable hours when Police officers work anti social killing shifts with no allowances . |
Maybe if the Police hadn't supported the Tories back when they were Maggie's private army, they may be getting the pay they deserve.
How any decent person can support Tories is beyond me.
As for the railways and overtime, we all know of the odd occasion when workers take the mickey in all industries.
Don't tar them all with the same brush | |
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| RMT Strikes on 13:31 - Dec 23 with 1849 views | Kilkennyjack |
| RMT Strikes on 06:31 - Dec 23 by 1983 |
I wish people would stop banging on about train drivers it's not about train drivers and yes train drivers are massively over paid but that is down to privatisation and companies pinching drivers off each other because it takes so long and costs so much to train them.
This is about the rest of us who are at the bottom of the pile.My basic wage is 21k not 30,40,50,60k and there are more on a lot less,that pays for me to live on anything else car braking down,holidays,football....etc that comes out of my overtime money which is what the railway has always done but they want to rape us of that. If they do win nobody will do any overtime for a flat rate and you will have more delays and cancellations than ever.
I promise you it will get a lot worse before it gets better |
You have my full support.
You deserve to be paid properly. | |
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| RMT Strikes on 14:20 - Dec 23 with 1809 views | Boundy |
| RMT Strikes on 01:22 - Dec 23 by Kilkennyjack |
You are turning the working man against the working man.
You are doing the Tories job for them.
The Tory government has wasted billions on unusable PPE.
Know your enemy. |
WTF are you babbling on about , again , I'm simply pointing out the fact that train drivers are amply awarded to do a job , one of which doesn't need many formal qualifications to become one . in fact it takes less time to train to operate a train than to work as a linesman on the electricity network. Turning working man against another , you're having laugh , ask ex Welsh colliers how they view Nottingham miners . | |
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| RMT Strikes on 14:44 - Dec 23 with 1798 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 14:20 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
WTF are you babbling on about , again , I'm simply pointing out the fact that train drivers are amply awarded to do a job , one of which doesn't need many formal qualifications to become one . in fact it takes less time to train to operate a train than to work as a linesman on the electricity network. Turning working man against another , you're having laugh , ask ex Welsh colliers how they view Nottingham miners . |
Anyone using “ the working man “ makes me cringe
Now working man against working man.
Civil war then ffs | |
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| RMT Strikes on 15:05 - Dec 23 with 1778 views | controversial_jack |
| RMT Strikes on 14:20 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
WTF are you babbling on about , again , I'm simply pointing out the fact that train drivers are amply awarded to do a job , one of which doesn't need many formal qualifications to become one . in fact it takes less time to train to operate a train than to work as a linesman on the electricity network. Turning working man against another , you're having laugh , ask ex Welsh colliers how they view Nottingham miners . |
It's not just about train drivers, it's about the majority of low paid workers. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to be a train driver, but you need to be the right kind of personality and it's very responsible. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 15:20 - Dec 23 with 1773 views | pencoedjack |
| RMT Strikes on 06:31 - Dec 23 by 1983 |
I wish people would stop banging on about train drivers it's not about train drivers and yes train drivers are massively over paid but that is down to privatisation and companies pinching drivers off each other because it takes so long and costs so much to train them.
This is about the rest of us who are at the bottom of the pile.My basic wage is 21k not 30,40,50,60k and there are more on a lot less,that pays for me to live on anything else car braking down,holidays,football....etc that comes out of my overtime money which is what the railway has always done but they want to rape us of that. If they do win nobody will do any overtime for a flat rate and you will have more delays and cancellations than ever.
I promise you it will get a lot worse before it gets better |
I’m not sure what you do in the rail service maybe a job that should pay 21k? I presume you have the possibility to progress or of course you could also look for a better paid job.
Some people get paid 21k with no option of overtime. |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 15:54 - Dec 23 with 1758 views | Boundy |
| RMT Strikes on 15:05 - Dec 23 by controversial_jack |
It's not just about train drivers, it's about the majority of low paid workers. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to be a train driver, but you need to be the right kind of personality and it's very responsible. |
Well I never knew that , thanks . Most jobs come with. level of responsibility some better paid than others , This below taken from
https://www.railforums.co.uk/t
"Compare it to the ticket office or information counter, and overwhelmingly the answer is yes, £50K approx per year and your personal space is your own instead of being at the capricious whims of joe public wherever your mood or headspace is at for a lot less money.
Add to that job security and strong unionisation as well as the fact that the notion that Drivers are 'special' is still residual in the industry and it's a very good gig indeed, especially when it's not essential to be a graduate either."
Everyone wants more money , it's just some need more money , a subtle but important difference | |
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