| RMT Strikes 09:40 - Nov 23 with 35491 views | 1983 |
Check before you travel folks is going to be a carve up for Christmas and NY [Post edited 23 Nov 2022 9:40]
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| RMT Strikes on 14:31 - Dec 20 with 2274 views | BryanSwan |
| RMT Strikes on 10:37 - Dec 20 by Whiterockin |
Everyone deserves a rise but if everyone gets what they are asking for inflation would soar to a higher level, making the increase disappear. Repeat every year or reach a compromise now. |
Surprisingly that is one thing i don't actually agree with. Does everyone really deserve one?
Maybe managers and management should actually have to do a job of appraising their staff and awarding pay rises for performance. It's one thing i can't stand about the public sector, you can be terrible at your job but would still get the same raise as everyone else. |  |
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| RMT Strikes on 14:36 - Dec 20 with 2246 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 14:31 - Dec 20 by BryanSwan |
Surprisingly that is one thing i don't actually agree with. Does everyone really deserve one?
Maybe managers and management should actually have to do a job of appraising their staff and awarding pay rises for performance. It's one thing i can't stand about the public sector, you can be terrible at your job but would still get the same raise as everyone else. |
And I too agree | |
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| RMT Strikes on 15:14 - Dec 20 with 2245 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT Strikes on 14:31 - Dec 20 by BryanSwan |
Surprisingly that is one thing i don't actually agree with. Does everyone really deserve one?
Maybe managers and management should actually have to do a job of appraising their staff and awarding pay rises for performance. It's one thing i can't stand about the public sector, you can be terrible at your job but would still get the same raise as everyone else. |
Can only speak for schools but pay increments are entirely linked to annual performance appraisals and have been for the last decade.
Same situation in schools as FB outlined in the fire service - the bigger issue isn’t the side of the payrise, it’s the fact it’s not funded. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 15:17 - Dec 20 with 2242 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT Strikes on 13:54 - Dec 20 by pencoedjack |
Not sure where I wrote anything emergency workers enjoying striking.
There is loads of waste in the NHS & it needs to be sorted, the country cannot afford ridiculous pay rises for the public sector. |
How would you propose sorting the recruitment issues?
The pay isn’t enough to fill posts, particularly in the health service.
If you’re saying we can’t afford it then we can’t have it 🤷🻠| | | |
| RMT Strikes on 15:31 - Dec 20 with 2238 views | pencoedjack |
| RMT Strikes on 14:31 - Dec 20 by BryanSwan |
Surprisingly that is one thing i don't actually agree with. Does everyone really deserve one?
Maybe managers and management should actually have to do a job of appraising their staff and awarding pay rises for performance. It's one thing i can't stand about the public sector, you can be terrible at your job but would still get the same raise as everyone else. |
Yep porters who sit about doing very little, admin staff who pass folders from 1 place to another, nurses who take blood & whilst they are not doing it stand about chatting whilst the fracture clinic is manic, receptionists in ENT who allow a queue to build up in ears & nose but wont check you in as they only manage throat.
All of the above are examples that happen in the Princess of Wales Bridgend, there for all too see if you go there & they are not worthy of a pay rise.
Nurses who work in A&E, on wards & theatres are certainly worthy of a very hefty pay rise. |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 17:35 - Dec 20 with 2209 views | Fireboy2 |
| RMT Strikes on 13:54 - Dec 20 by pencoedjack |
Not sure where I wrote anything emergency workers enjoying striking.
There is loads of waste in the NHS & it needs to be sorted, the country cannot afford ridiculous pay rises for the public sector. |
Ridiculous pay rises? We don't want a ridiculous pay rise, just a fair one, one that gives a fair wage.
What makes you think that the government cannot afford the rises? Is because the government tell you via the mainstream media 🙄 |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 18:03 - Dec 20 with 2182 views | CountyJim |
| RMT Strikes on 17:35 - Dec 20 by Fireboy2 |
Ridiculous pay rises? We don't want a ridiculous pay rise, just a fair one, one that gives a fair wage.
What makes you think that the government cannot afford the rises? Is because the government tell you via the mainstream media 🙄 |
Fireboy you are spot on mate
It's like talking to a brick wall these Tories on here |  | | |
| RMT Strikes on 18:07 - Dec 20 with 2177 views | pencoedjack |
| RMT Strikes on 18:03 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
Fireboy you are spot on mate
It's like talking to a brick wall these Tories on here |
Jackanory’s off | | | |
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| RMT Strikes on 18:25 - Dec 20 with 2151 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 18:03 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
Fireboy you are spot on mate
It's like talking to a brick wall these Tories on here |
Won’t be long Jim.
Out brothers out
Why don’t you strike
Let’s have a general strike
Everyone wants more.
There is no money tree
Anyway,Covid was just bad flu wasn’t it . Overreaction
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| RMT Strikes on 18:32 - Dec 20 with 2157 views | Gwyn737 |
| RMT Strikes on 18:07 - Dec 20 by pencoedjack |
Jackanory’s off |
You’re right. The figure is probably half of that.
Certainly enough to give pay rises across the board for 2 years while proper policies are drawn up. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 18:46 - Dec 20 with 2154 views | CountyJim |
| RMT Strikes on 18:25 - Dec 20 by onehunglow |
Won’t be long Jim.
Out brothers out
Why don’t you strike
Let’s have a general strike
Everyone wants more.
There is no money tree
Anyway,Covid was just bad flu wasn’t it . Overreaction
Innit |
What are you talking about | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 18:50 - Dec 20 with 2136 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 18:46 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
What are you talking about |
The Topic
Why are you playing dumb
General Strike
Let’s have it | |
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| RMT Strikes on 18:55 - Dec 20 with 2146 views | raynor94 |
19% was a fantasy figure the Nursing Union started off with, they have already boxed themselves into a corner, same with the RMT. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 19:18 - Dec 20 with 2123 views | onehunglow |
| RMT Strikes on 18:46 - Dec 20 by CountyJim |
What are you talking about |
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| RMT Strikes on 21:39 - Dec 20 with 2100 views | BryanSwan |
| RMT Strikes on 15:14 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737 |
Can only speak for schools but pay increments are entirely linked to annual performance appraisals and have been for the last decade.
Same situation in schools as FB outlined in the fire service - the bigger issue isn’t the side of the payrise, it’s the fact it’s not funded. |
Only speaking from my experience in public sector, not in schools so I'm sure you've got that spot on there.
Pay not linked to performance in my opinion is the reason a number of public sector bodies struggle to retain good staff. Or good staff decide not to bother as there is no benefit to being good at their jobs.
I do really despise the premise that there is simply no money to fund a pay rise or to provide adequate equipment and facilities. There is always money to fund vanity projects, nuclear weapons etc etc. | |
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| RMT Strikes on 22:09 - Dec 20 with 2078 views | majorraglan |
Increments in the NHS are now linked to appraisals and performance, there is no longer an automatic right to an increment.
I’ve no issue with linking increments to performance but it has to be managed fairly. It was once proposed that a place where I previously worked moved on to appraisal related pay, but it was eventually dropped as there were considerable challenges, including fairness and funding. My enough money was being set aside to reward all those who deserved the increment and it became extremely disruptive.
I’ve seen promotion processes where one of the first question a candidate has to answer “Is what have you done over and above your role ...........?” Most candidates will evidence this to a degree, but from my experience the best answers come from those who can BS the best and spend all their time networking, going to meetings and actually doing f.. all !! The grafters are trailing well behind because they’re focussed on doing the job to a high standard. It’s the same with appraisals, people can and do spend a disproportionate amount of time BS ing and gathering evidence for appraisals it impacts on their work and deflects others from their objectives. Get it wrong and the accusations of bullying fly!
A sensible approach would be welcomed by most, but when it’s just being done to cut costs it's fraught with danger. | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 09:21 - Dec 21 with 2014 views | controversial_jack |
| RMT Strikes on 22:09 - Dec 20 by majorraglan |
Increments in the NHS are now linked to appraisals and performance, there is no longer an automatic right to an increment.
I’ve no issue with linking increments to performance but it has to be managed fairly. It was once proposed that a place where I previously worked moved on to appraisal related pay, but it was eventually dropped as there were considerable challenges, including fairness and funding. My enough money was being set aside to reward all those who deserved the increment and it became extremely disruptive.
I’ve seen promotion processes where one of the first question a candidate has to answer “Is what have you done over and above your role ...........?” Most candidates will evidence this to a degree, but from my experience the best answers come from those who can BS the best and spend all their time networking, going to meetings and actually doing f.. all !! The grafters are trailing well behind because they’re focussed on doing the job to a high standard. It’s the same with appraisals, people can and do spend a disproportionate amount of time BS ing and gathering evidence for appraisals it impacts on their work and deflects others from their objectives. Get it wrong and the accusations of bullying fly!
A sensible approach would be welcomed by most, but when it’s just being done to cut costs it's fraught with danger. |
Spot on. From my experience, the ones that got extra in their appraisals and got promotion were the networkers and noshers. Performance rewards are very often given on subjectivity rather than objectivity. Performance is great with something you can actually measure like footballers, but not in somewhere like the NHS | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 15:24 - Dec 22 with 1813 views | CountyJim |
Does the RMT have a fundraising page for the strikers mate I'd donate and I'm sure right minded people would | | | |
| RMT Strikes on 15:48 - Dec 22 with 1801 views | 1983 |
Yep keep paying for those bonuses folks [ | |
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| RMT Strikes on 20:00 - Dec 22 with 1740 views | Kilkennyjack |
The workers united will never be defeated.
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| RMT Strikes on 20:08 - Dec 22 with 1733 views | Boundy |
| RMT Strikes on 15:24 - Dec 22 by CountyJim |
Does the RMT have a fundraising page for the strikers mate I'd donate and I'm sure right minded people would |
There are many right minded people in this country not earning anywhere near the annual wages that rail workers receive , hows about contributing to those who have struggle on the minimum wage and not those already on up to 74k basic
Average Train Driver Salaries Per Year
2020 2022
GWR - train driver salary - Cashfloat Great Western Railway £56,773 £60,620
SER - train driver salary - Cashfloat Southeastern Railway £53,620 £57,030
London Underground - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Underground £55,711 £59,732
Arriva group - train driver salary - Cashfloat Arriva Group £60,945 £66,677
london midland - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Midland £54,040 £55,854
virgin trains - train driver salary - Cashfloat Virgin Trains £66,231 £74,151 | |
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| RMT Strikes on 20:25 - Dec 22 with 1719 views | krunchykarrot |
| RMT Strikes on 20:08 - Dec 22 by Boundy |
There are many right minded people in this country not earning anywhere near the annual wages that rail workers receive , hows about contributing to those who have struggle on the minimum wage and not those already on up to 74k basic
Average Train Driver Salaries Per Year
2020 2022
GWR - train driver salary - Cashfloat Great Western Railway £56,773 £60,620
SER - train driver salary - Cashfloat Southeastern Railway £53,620 £57,030
London Underground - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Underground £55,711 £59,732
Arriva group - train driver salary - Cashfloat Arriva Group £60,945 £66,677
london midland - train driver salary - Cashfloat London Midland £54,040 £55,854
virgin trains - train driver salary - Cashfloat Virgin Trains £66,231 £74,151 |
Heard someone on the radio didnt catch who talk some sense. he advocated giving the lowest paid 20% (i was just about to turn off) upto band ??? (cant remember) this equates to about 4k which everyone else will get over the band i cant recall.
He then went on to say free degree and to take the training restraints off, i couldnt believe that bit. He finished off by saying that this will make no difference as we need to start with the min wage carers in the nursing/care sector to make a substansial difference. Now i dont care for po;itical bollox regarding the NHS as they are all useless and it needs to be taken away from the career MP's. |  | | |
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